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Post by Citris on May 26, 2014 13:42:20 GMT -4
Wow. I guess no more #48. Hard to believe in a way. Who's the new whipping boy I wonder?
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Post by 1994 on May 26, 2014 14:01:55 GMT -4
That is a good return, Luca did receive a lot of abuse but in all reality he wouldn't have received that abuse if he wasn't such a high draft pick in the first place.
Getting a second round pick for him is good for the Moosehead's and hopefully the trade is good for him as well.
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Post by sc74 on May 26, 2014 14:17:46 GMT -4
Kind of ironic considering he told BC he wouldn't report there at 16!
I guess now being 20 and undrafted, he doesn't really have a choice.
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Post by Citris on May 26, 2014 14:40:26 GMT -4
Kind of ironic considering he told BC he wouldn't report there at 16! I guess now being 20 and undrafted, he doesn't really have a choice. This is a common problem for BC it seems lol. I remember when Ciampini was in his 16 year old season, he got injured for a good portion of the season. I can't remember the exact injury but I think it may have been a head injury. I think it sent his development down its current path. I think he became more timid and afraid to battle and get physical? Just a theory anyway.
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Post by mooseinfo on May 26, 2014 14:40:38 GMT -4
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Post by sc74 on May 26, 2014 14:51:13 GMT -4
Kind of ironic considering he told BC he wouldn't report there at 16! I guess now being 20 and undrafted, he doesn't really have a choice. This is a common problem for BC it seems lol. I remember when Ciampini was in his 16 year old season, he got injured for a good portion of the season. I can't remember the exact injury but I think it may have been a head injury. I think it sent his development down its current path. I think he became more timid and afraid to battle and get physical? Just a theory anyway. The two consecutive years they got the 1st overall, there were a lot of players saying no! They could have got Matheson and MacKinnon.
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Post by hfxfan09 on May 26, 2014 16:06:39 GMT -4
Interesting trade, be interesting to see who we get Luca was really starting to grow on me this season going to miss him in a Moose jersey!
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Post by NSCCMooseFan on May 26, 2014 16:23:49 GMT -4
*Facepalm* ^-----------
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Post by Reesor on May 26, 2014 16:40:15 GMT -4
As much as Ciampini was the topic of a lot of jokes on here (By me as well), he was a 4 year Moosehead who went through some injuries and very rough stretches, but was all-in-all a good player. He didn't develop into the player we thought he would when we drafted him 2nd overall. But shit happens. I wish him luck in Baie-Comeau.
I don't mind a 2nd round pick for him. I was hoping we'd somehow con a 1st rounder out of someone for him, but I'm happy with this return. I like that it's a 2015 2nd rounder as well.
Now can we magically get something for Lussier like we did Beauchemin last year?
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Post by Citris on May 26, 2014 16:48:00 GMT -4
As much as Ciampini was the topic of a lot of jokes on here (By me as well), he was a 4 year Moosehead who went through some injuries and very rough stretches, but was all-in-all a good player. He didn't develop into the player we thought he would when we drafted him 2nd overall. But shit happens. I wish him luck in Baie-Comeau. I don't mind a 2nd round pick for him. I was hoping we'd somehow con a 1st rounder out of someone for him, but I'm happy with this return. I like that it's a 2015 2nd rounder as well. Now can we magically get something for Lussier like we did Beauchemin last year? I wouldn't say "Magically". Lussier is a good player. He's capable of playing some big, important minutes in the top 4. Maybe not what you'd ideally want from a 20 year old, but I think on a lower end team he's a good overager. He skates well, and probably could produce more offense than he did last year if given a different role.
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Post by Reesor on May 26, 2014 17:05:55 GMT -4
As much as Ciampini was the topic of a lot of jokes on here (By me as well), he was a 4 year Moosehead who went through some injuries and very rough stretches, but was all-in-all a good player. He didn't develop into the player we thought he would when we drafted him 2nd overall. But shit happens. I wish him luck in Baie-Comeau. I don't mind a 2nd round pick for him. I was hoping we'd somehow con a 1st rounder out of someone for him, but I'm happy with this return. I like that it's a 2015 2nd rounder as well. Now can we magically get something for Lussier like we did Beauchemin last year? I wouldn't say "Magically". Lussier is a good player. He's capable of playing some big, important minutes in the top 4. Maybe not what you'd ideally want from a 20 year old, but I think on a lower end team he's a good overager. He skates well, and probably could produce more offense than he did last year if given a different role. He is a guy capable of top 4 minutes on some teams. But I doubt a contender would have a spot for him. It's just finding the right fit. It's a lot tougher to find a 20yo dman a place to play than it is a forward. He was a free agent. So anything we can get for him is a bonus.
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Post by mooseinfo on May 26, 2014 17:14:11 GMT -4
I wouldn't say "Magically". Lussier is a good player. He's capable of playing some big, important minutes in the top 4. Maybe not what you'd ideally want from a 20 year old, but I think on a lower end team he's a good overager. He skates well, and probably could produce more offense than he did last year if given a different role. He is a guy capable of top 4 minutes on some teams. But I doubt a contender would have a spot for him. It's just finding the right fit. It's a lot tougher to find a 20yo dman a place to play than it is a forward. He was a free agent. So anything we can get for him is a bonus. There is always the option of keeping him and seeing if he gets better with a bigger role. He did show more in the playoffs and although some were nervous with his play at times, it was his first year. I would be happy to see a bigger return for a forward and give more ice to younger players up front then on D.
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Post by mooseinfo on May 26, 2014 17:19:40 GMT -4
Great trade. Some people loved to crap on Luca (and at times rightfully so) and said he was untradeable etc, but I always thought we could get a 3rd for him. A 2nd I didn't think was doable, but apparently Cam got it done lol. Will likely be a high 2nd too, because BaC isn't looking too hot next year. Wouldn't be shocked to see Cam use that pick in a deal for a player for this season. He's said multiple times he thinks we can compete again, so a future 2nd rd pick is a nice asset to have on draft day when teams are looking to move veterans for picks and/or youth. It also could be used to get another pick this year. Lots of teams holding multi picks that may want to defer a year to get a little something extra thrown in. Only so many spots on protected list to sit a bunch of 2nd rounders.
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Post by Citris on May 26, 2014 17:22:10 GMT -4
Personally I'm kind of in the keep Hardie/Lussier boat. We'll be carrying 3 rookies on D with him as it stands right now, assuming we carry 7. That and I'm not sure how much I like the idea of Jaques and Lovell both in the top 3.
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Post by NSCCMooseFan on May 26, 2014 18:02:10 GMT -4
I just hope Moosehead fans will realize now that he wont be a part of the team, that he wasn't a good player.
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