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Post by mooseinfo on May 28, 2014 19:08:19 GMT -4
I only disliked his play because of the things I would hear from people close to the players. I.E partying in Montreal all summer instead of training to become better. All I wanted to see from him was some DESIRE to get better. His points came from the players that were around him. A lot of guys would have put up similar numbers in his spot. And then look at this season, as a 19 year old where he should be dominating on another good team, he gets 30 less points in the same amount of games. He showed no skating or physical willingness 98% of the time he wore a Mooseheads jersey and those are things real hockey fans notice. Not just the numbers that he put up on a dream team. Good luck to the kid and everything, but this is a really good move for the Moose. LOL super fan are you. A real hockey fan would know 2nd round picks are not expected or given by 2 GMs, that are from teams that are not exactly at the bottom of the league, for the player you constantly described. You are the one with a problem!
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Post by NSCCMooseFan on May 28, 2014 19:12:25 GMT -4
I only disliked his play because of the things I would hear from people close to the players. I.E partying in Montreal all summer instead of training to become better. All I wanted to see from him was some DESIRE to get better. His points came from the players that were around him. A lot of guys would have put up similar numbers in his spot. And then look at this season, as a 19 year old where he should be dominating on another good team, he gets 30 less points in the same amount of games. He showed no skating or physical willingness 98% of the time he wore a Mooseheads jersey and those are things real hockey fans notice. Not just the numbers that he put up on a dream team. Good luck to the kid and everything, but this is a really good move for the Moose. LOL super fan are you. A real hockey fan would know 2nd round picks are not expected or given by 2 GMs, that are from teams that are not exactly at the bottom of the league, for the player you constantly described. You are the one with a problem! So you are saying Ciampini is a good skater who goes to the boards without shitting his pants?
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Post by mooseinfo on May 28, 2014 19:15:29 GMT -4
LOL super fan are you. A real hockey fan would know 2nd round picks are not expected or given by 2 GMs, that are from teams that are not exactly at the bottom of the league, for the player you constantly described. You are the one with a problem! So you are saying Ciampini is a good skater who goes to the boards without shitting his pants? Go cry to your friends close to the team about it!
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Post by NSCCMooseFan on May 28, 2014 19:17:36 GMT -4
So you are saying Ciampini is a good skater who goes to the boards without shitting his pants? Go cry to your friends close to the team about it! So instead of explaining yourself, you lie down and say that? Sorry, you just proved I'm not wrong.
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Post by Citris on May 28, 2014 19:27:10 GMT -4
What "Better players" did Ciampini knock out of the top 6? For the sake of the argument, D. Beauchemin. I liked Beauch a lot, but no. Beauchemin wasn't better than Ciampini. Harder worker, yes probably.. Ciampini had 71 pts that season tho, and didn't get much more ice than him.
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Post by guru on May 28, 2014 19:31:35 GMT -4
For the sake of the argument, D. Beauchemin. I liked Beauch a lot, but no. Beauchemin wasn't better than Ciampini. Harder worker, yes probably.. Ciampini had 71 pts that season tho, and didn't get much more ice than him. Beachemin barely saw ice unless it was Christmas time that season, where he put up quite the point streak. Ciampini played on the second line and second PP unit.
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Post by Citris on May 28, 2014 20:28:25 GMT -4
I liked Beauch a lot, but no. Beauchemin wasn't better than Ciampini. Harder worker, yes probably.. Ciampini had 71 pts that season tho, and didn't get much more ice than him. Beachemin barely saw ice unless it was Christmas time that season, where he put up quite the point streak. Ciampini played on the second line and second PP unit. Which became the fourth line in the later rounds of the playoffs, if you'll remember. Besides, just cause a guy gets ice doesn't mean he gets points. Boudreau and Ciampini had really good chemestry together. And again, I like Beauchemin, no slight against him at all. I just don't think he was as good as Ciampini.
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Post by mooseinfo on May 28, 2014 22:10:31 GMT -4
Go cry to your friends close to the team about it! So instead of explaining yourself, you lie down and say that? Sorry, you just proved I'm not wrong. I did explain myself you just chose to ignore it. Your a bitter individual holding a grudge and simply stating faults you feel proves nothing! (You only hate him because of what you heard) Why should anyone believe anything you say? Wright an email to the 2 GMs involved in the trade of your obsession. Tell them they cant be real fans since they dont agree with your opinion.
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Post by Citris on May 28, 2014 22:23:42 GMT -4
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Post by MikeC on May 28, 2014 22:40:13 GMT -4
LOL super fan are you. A real hockey fan would know 2nd round picks are not expected or given by 2 GMs, that are from teams that are not exactly at the bottom of the league, for the player you constantly described. You are the one with a problem! So you are saying Ciampini is a good skater who goes to the boards without shitting his pants? Ciampini wasn't soft by any means, and drove the net as well as anyone on the team - often ending up buried in the net or on top of the goalie.
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Post by guru on May 28, 2014 22:53:24 GMT -4
Beachemin barely saw ice unless it was Christmas time that season, where he put up quite the point streak. Ciampini played on the second line and second PP unit. Which became the fourth line in the later rounds of the playoffs, if you'll remember. Besides, just cause a guy gets ice doesn't mean he gets points. Boudreau and Ciampini had really good chemestry together. And again, I like Beauchemin, no slight against him at all. I just don't think he was as good as Ciampini. Wasn't a 4th liner because of bad play, was a fourth liner because of little room. Ciampini also ended up on the fourth line by the end because his playoffs weren't great that year.
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Post by Citris on May 29, 2014 5:44:54 GMT -4
Which became the fourth line in the later rounds of the playoffs, if you'll remember. Besides, just cause a guy gets ice doesn't mean he gets points. Boudreau and Ciampini had really good chemestry together. And again, I like Beauchemin, no slight against him at all. I just don't think he was as good as Ciampini. Wasn't a 4th liner because of bad play, was a fourth liner because of little room. Ciampini also ended up on the fourth line by the end because his playoffs weren't great that year. That's who I was talking about. Ciampini and Boudreau hadrly saw the ice deep in the playoffs, and Beauch was stapled to the bench. We can both agree that this is not due to poor play, rather a result of a ridiculously deep and talented group of forwards.
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Post by bois on May 29, 2014 10:35:16 GMT -4
So you are saying Ciampini is a good skater who goes to the boards without shitting his pants? Ciampini wasn't soft by any means, and drove the net as well as anyone on the team - often ending up buried in the net or on top of the goalie. because he couldn't skate.. therefore couldn't stop either.. probably just one way
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Post by Citris on May 29, 2014 11:50:20 GMT -4
Y'know there is a thread about Ciampini now...
Anyway, updated the first post. Not shocking but Kevin Darveau is no longer on our protected list.
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Post by Reesor on May 30, 2014 15:02:26 GMT -4
Sounds like the decision to keep Andrew Ryan or Jesse Lussier is a tough one. The Moose have Hardie, Murphy and Lovell who are locks. Then they have Ford (17), Tallifer (17), Worthern (17), Jacques (18), Cavan Fitzgerald (18) and Josh Fitzgerald (18)... along with longshots from our protected list, and anyone we draft, fighting for 3 spots.
Some points:
- If we can get a 1st round pick for Andrew Ryan, take it. It only makes sense given the strength of the league this year and where the Mooseheads sit.
- I'm a big fan of giving younger kids ice time... which would be a reason to keep Andrew Ryan and trade/release Lussier. But if none of the kids listed above can handle top 4 ice yet, it's better to keep Lussier around, and use the 5/6 pairing to develop our two best kids. We don't have a fantastic D prospect in the system. Taylor Ford is the only one that sounds like he'll have an impact at some point. Things can change for sure
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