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Post by J4M13 on Jun 3, 2014 9:30:32 GMT -4
Not that I don't believe you (I have no idea), but how would that work? If a player is drafted at 16, then skips his 17 YO draft, wouldn't he essentially be a free agent at 18? which would allow a guy like Eichel to sign in the OHL like he wants to. I'm not saying the below scenario would ever happen, only that it could, and that's my thought on why drafting a 18 yr old is risky: I don't understand the rules about guys who refuse to report (hence the drafting of 18 YO Americans), but I know if a guy reports and doesn't make the team, he has to be waived at 18. So a guy could get drafted and be a free agent in 2 months if he reports and gets cut for whatever reason. He'd then be free to sign with any team in the Q that makes the right offer. I realize it's a longshot, but the rules allow for a guy to sandbag a training camp, then pick which team he plays for. And in Eichel's case, even if he reported to SJ and got waived, he would still have to clear waivers in the Q before being allowed to play in the OHL. He could theoretically burn SJ, but odds are he'd still end up on the Remparts.
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Post by catnut on Jun 3, 2014 9:33:16 GMT -4
THe way I read the rule in English and especially in French is this. If the player refuses to show, the team can trade him or return him to the following year's draft (in this case 2015) and use the compensatory pick, and not 2 years down the road as Statsman is implying.
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Post by jamesnorris on Jun 3, 2014 9:59:54 GMT -4
I think this is where you're getting confused stats.
The established date is 1 week before the draft, so when they say "next entry draft" they mean the draft 1 week after the established date.
It would be way more clear if they simply said the draft in which the compensatory pick was in.
Also where it says "if the team uses the compensatory draft pick" I don't think they mean when they actually use the pick. I think they mean when the team requests the pick (aka a week before the draft when they release the players rights)
QMJHL often has rules like this that can be interpreted 50 different ways.
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Post by seagle on Jun 6, 2014 16:51:18 GMT -4
Thanks to puppypaws on the dogs board for the link: www.sbncollegehockey.com/college-hockey-recruiting-ncaa/2014/6/3/5768346/qmjhl-draft-ncaa-recruits-prospects-selected-american-major-juniorCornell recruit Michael O'Leary of the Salisbury School was the first NCAA commit selected when he was taken 14th overall by Cape Breton in the first round. The Halifax, Nova Scotia native didn't put up a ton of points in his first season of prep hockey, but he's got the type of frame and skill set that projects him to be a power forward at the next level. O'Leary, a '98 who also played split-season midget puck with the Connecticut Wolf Pack, very much fits in the typical mold of a Big Red forward. He's supposed to be headed to Ithaca in the fall of 2017, but he most likely gave some indication of a willingness to at least explore the major junior route or he wouldn't have been picked so high. Billy Sweezey, Cape Breton, '96 D, Nobles (New England Prep) - The offensive defenseman from Hanson, Mass. is already committed to Keith Allain and the Yale Bulldogs. Sweezey has also played split-season midget for the Cape Cod Whalers and the South Shore Kings. Mike Lee, Cape Breton, '96 D, The Gunnery (New England Prep) - The Vermont recruit played for Chris Baudo at the prep school level before playing two games with Tri-City in the USHL to close out the season. The Hamden, Conn. native with an offensive upside from the blue line is expected to play for the Penticton Vees in the BCHL next winter.
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Post by jamesnorris on Jun 6, 2014 17:32:57 GMT -4
Sweezey & Lee are also ranked for the NHL draft. Late, but they're there.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 7, 2014 10:10:45 GMT -4
THe way I read the rule in English and especially in French is this. If the player refuses to show, the team can trade him or return him to the following year's draft (in this case 2015) and use the compensatory pick, and not 2 years down the road as Statsman is implying. I believe you have 2 years to drop the guy and get a compensatory pick...
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Post by theqprofessor on Jun 7, 2014 18:21:56 GMT -4
We can Trade him to the Moose for Murphy lol
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Post by jamesnorris on Jun 10, 2014 10:26:03 GMT -4
I'm very high on this kid. Totally underrated due to his locale and the fact he doesn't have any highly touted defense in front of him. Funny how having Q-quality defense makes a goalie look good. ; ) He has the most rounded game of all the '98 goalies from NS. He probably should play another year Major Midget or, if Yarmouth can give him 25+ games, he should play Junior A to develop his craft and grow another inch or two. When he walks into camp in 2015, you may very well have your goalie of the future. No point in having him sit on the bench watching your starter all season. Sullivan is an excellent journeyman goalie to help plug the net when your starter is out. I'm guessing Yarmouth is expected to use a territorial pick on him? Yarmouth announced him as their territorial pick last night
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Post by jboyz on Jun 10, 2014 18:19:04 GMT -4
Pascal Corbeil, Pierre-Luc Dubois and Michael O'Leary got selected to go to the U17 camp. Hope all three of them make it. The camp should be very competitive with only three Canadian teams.
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Post by jamesnorris on Jun 14, 2014 12:37:17 GMT -4
Evan Millman - 2nd round - 23 overall - Miramichi Timberwolves
the MHL twitter account can't count properly for some reason.
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Post by jboyz on Jun 14, 2014 13:08:52 GMT -4
Dillon Boucher was picked 2nd overall on the MHL draft by Wood Gundy Lumberjacks.
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Post by seagle on Jun 14, 2014 16:03:33 GMT -4
Dillon Boucher was picked 2nd overall on the MHL draft by Wood Gundy Lumberjacks. I was impressed with him at last years camp and would give him a chance for this years squad. I would guess the lumberjacks would think different or would not have drafted him that high.
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Post by Score on Jun 17, 2014 9:28:06 GMT -4
Sounds like O'Leary has made his decision.
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Post by hal on Jun 17, 2014 10:28:16 GMT -4
I would say there is about a 40 % chance he is in camp . When he said he still finds himself kinda flip flopping .........there's still a chance .
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Post by countryboy on Jun 17, 2014 11:00:50 GMT -4
Given that he's a Nova Scotia kid, it wouldn't be a surprise if he comes for the first 48 hours.
Over the years, we've had a few NCAA bound guys on PEI who've landed for the first 48 hours and then left on their own: Morgan Messenger, Mitch Vanderlaan, Matthew Graham, Greg Jansz.
It almost always seems to be the case that if a guy is doing this it is a Maritime guy.
The only Quebec based guy I can ever remember coming to our camp and leaving was former Eagle Dany Potvin.
Of course, there may have been more over the years.... likely invites with little chance of going deep. As far as I can recall, these have been the only drafted players to show up at at Charlottetown/PEI camp and leave.
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