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Post by hockeyguy92 on Jun 21, 2014 15:44:40 GMT -4
Since the thread has been quiet and the draft is over and training camp just a month or so away I figured might as well take a shot at what we think the line up for this season will be. Of course the NHL draft is still to come and there are questions about Darcy and Hache but should have a reasonable guess as to what the team might look like. Here is what I think. Not in any order just a general guess. And yes I am aware everyone is going to think differently on how it should look haha.
Forwards-
Lazarev - Bishop - Svechnikov Darcy - Dubois - Legare Gauthier - Pelletier - L'Italien Gray - Simard - Tower Lyle- Brunelle
If Darcy is not back I would have Farrell in there
Defence
Hache - Leveille Lalonde - Bell Nosella - Deschamps Baillageron
I highly doubt Hache is back but I would love to see it. Here's to hoping. Not sure who else I would have in there without Hache maybe someone will have a better guess at who to take there.
Goalies- Brassard Fortin
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Post by looneytunes on Jun 21, 2014 18:43:58 GMT -4
I would have Farrell making the team over Legere as a 20 but it will be close. I would say that neither Hache or Darcy will be back so that would leave both to make the team.
With your projected lineup you have 4 20's. Brassard is a 20 remember.
Deschamps will be on the 1st D pairing guaranteed.
I would also not be surprised if Sullivan beats out Fortin in camp.
I would say that you are spot on with the Bishop line.
Camp is still a bit away and there are still FA's that could come in so this is a little early but that is what these boards are for. Discussion.
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Post by emerz on Jun 21, 2014 19:12:10 GMT -4
Farrell - Darcy - Pelletier Lazarev - Bishop - Svechnikov Lyle - Simard - Gauthier Tower - Dubois - Gray
Deschamps - Leveille Bell - Lalonde Nosella - Baillargeon
I wasn't very impressed with Gauthier last year, he took a lot of stupid retaliation penalties and didn't really find his scoring grove.
Pelletier I think could easily play on the first line this year, his shot is lethal and Darcy will give him great opportunities to score.
Bishop looked good with Lazarev last year so may as well keep him at 2C with the Russians.
I think Leveille made big strides in the 2nd half of last year and he might be able to play the top pair.
We also have enough assets to theoretically get the absolute best player available at the trade period as well.
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Post by jboyz on Jun 21, 2014 20:47:26 GMT -4
I say Vanier is the Eagles number one target going into the trade period at Christmas time.
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Post by statsman18 on Jun 23, 2014 13:54:55 GMT -4
I say Vanier is the Eagles number one target going into the trade period at Christmas time. There actually 3 solid 19yo Defencemen that could be on the market. Vanier is one for sure but Murphy from the Mooseheads could be another. Then there is also Ryan Graves from VD. I think they will try to get one of the 3 for a playoff push. Murphy makes the most sense thought. He has a chance of being back in the league for 15-16 year when you guys can make a big run.
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Post by goeagles on Jun 24, 2014 8:48:52 GMT -4
What would you think one of these defenseman would cost ...
Eagles for sure have a lot of draft picks, would that alone do it ...
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Post by looneytunes on Jun 24, 2014 16:01:06 GMT -4
Depends how high the bar is set for trades at Christmas. Last year everything was reasonable but in 12-13 the price was high. Time will tell.
A little insight into that would be the fact that the Memorial Cup is in the Q this year. Bids/prices will likely be high.
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Post by Citris on Jun 24, 2014 21:41:41 GMT -4
Farrell - Darcy - Pelletier Lazarev - Bishop - Svechnikov Lyle - Simard - Gauthier Tower - Dubois - Gray Deschamps - Leveille Bell - Lalonde Nosella - Baillargeon I wasn't very impressed with Gauthier last year, he took a lot of stupid retaliation penalties and didn't really find his scoring grove. Pelletier I think could easily play on the first line this year, his shot is lethal and Darcy will give him great opportunities to score. Bishop looked good with Lazarev last year so may as well keep him at 2C with the Russians. I think Leveille made big strides in the 2nd half of last year and he might be able to play the top pair. We also have enough assets to theoretically get the absolute best player available at the trade period as well. This is a lot more logical. No way Dubois plays center on a line with Darcy. (no offense hockeyguy 92, but you don't bump one of the best centers in the league for a rookie.) Looking at this line-up, I'm curious to know what's going to happen with the OA situation in CB, especially if Hache comes back. Legare and Farrell are certainly intriguing, both scored 35 goals and would garner some interest come training camp. Incidentally tho, Q site has Dubois incorrectly listed as a center, he's a left-shooting Winger. Samuel L'Italien is a Center, but can play wing and has played on the right wing with Dubois during the u-16 for team Quebec. www.albatroscollegenotredame.ca/equipe/ <--- their squad last season has both listed at their natural positions.
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Post by emerz on Jun 25, 2014 7:00:48 GMT -4
Farrell - Darcy - Pelletier Lazarev - Bishop - Svechnikov Lyle - Simard - Gauthier Tower - Dubois - Gray Deschamps - Leveille Bell - Lalonde Nosella - Baillargeon I wasn't very impressed with Gauthier last year, he took a lot of stupid retaliation penalties and didn't really find his scoring grove. Pelletier I think could easily play on the first line this year, his shot is lethal and Darcy will give him great opportunities to score. Bishop looked good with Lazarev last year so may as well keep him at 2C with the Russians. I think Leveille made big strides in the 2nd half of last year and he might be able to play the top pair. We also have enough assets to theoretically get the absolute best player available at the trade period as well. This is a lot more logical. No way Dubois plays center on a line with Darcy. (no offense hockeyguy 92, but you don't bump one of the best centers in the league for a rookie.) Looking at this line-up, I'm curious to know what's going to happen with the OA situation in CB, especially if Hache comes back. Legare and Farrell are certainly intriguing, both scored 35 goals and would garner some interest come training camp. Incidentally tho, Q site has Dubois incorrectly listed as a center, he's a left-shooting Winger. Samuel L'Italien is a Center, but can play wing and has played on the right wing with Dubois during the u-16 for team Quebec. www.albatroscollegenotredame.ca/equipe/ <--- their squad last season has both listed at their natural positions. My thought is that there is no way Hache is back, Darcy is probably 80/20 in favor of being back. Between Farrell and Legare, Farrell is definitely the more valuable for us, he is a work horse and local guy. I imagine we'll be dealing Legare, not sure what kind of value a 34 goal scoring PPG 20 y/o has, maybe a 3rd or something?
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Post by Citris on Jun 25, 2014 7:41:17 GMT -4
My thought is that there is no way Hache is back, Darcy is probably 80/20 in favor of being back. Between Farrell and Legare, Farrell is definitely the more valuable for us, he is a work horse and local guy. I imagine we'll be dealing Legare, not sure what kind of value a 34 goal scoring PPG 20 y/o has, maybe a 3rd or something? I'm thinking you try to deal him for a low pick and a serviceable 4th line center. Eagles depth chart at Center looks like this (imo): Darcy Farrell Bishop Simard --------- then it gets foggy... Phélix Martineau? Samuel L'Italien? The other thing I know is that if you keep Farrell he may be moved to the wing to let Bish and Simard play 2nd and 3rd as they should be. Maybe a Center has a good camp? But L'Italien is probably a year of.... Maybe something like: To Halifax: Charles-Eric Legare To Cape Breton Samuel Leblanc 7th 2015 Halifax has too many bottom 6 centers, Leblanc is quite a bit better than Lindsay was, kills penalties, skates well, capable of chipping in offensively... real good stop-gap that could be had for cheap. Svechnikov(L) - Bishop(L) - Lazarev(R) Farrell(L) - Darcy(R) - Gauthier(R) Pelletier(L) - Simard(R) - Lyle(L) Dubios (L)- Leblanc(L) - Tower(R) Gray (L) Pelletier probably deserves to be up on one of the top two lines, but either him or Farrell are going to have to play off-wing. That, or maybe do this: Pelletier - Farrell - Darcy. Idk. Just a thought.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Jun 25, 2014 9:05:39 GMT -4
Barring any furhter trades or free agents coming to camp, I see the Eagles roster looking like this; Goaltending, Brassard and Fortin. Defence; Deschamps, Leveille, Lalonde, Bell,Nosella and Baillergon with one of either Matt Paul, Lee Dower or Pascal Corbeil filling the last spot. If Hache returns and is not traded, slot him in at the top and drop off the number 7 guy. Forward; Farrell, Legare,Pelletier,Bishop, Lazarev, Szechkinov,Simard, Gauthier,Gray, Lyle, Dubois, Tower with Brunelle and Boucher being the two extras.If Darcy is backne with Legare probably being moved out.The variables re any surprises that might show at camp(Winkler, the American kid). Looks like a pretty competitive roster. I think that if both Hache and Darcy come back, adding a piece or two at Christmas would make this team a contender.
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Post by statsman18 on Jun 25, 2014 10:16:48 GMT -4
My thought is that there is no way Hache is back, Darcy is probably 80/20 in favor of being back. Between Farrell and Legare, Farrell is definitely the more valuable for us, he is a work horse and local guy. I imagine we'll be dealing Legare, not sure what kind of value a 34 goal scoring PPG 20 y/o has, maybe a 3rd or something? I'm thinking you try to deal him for a low pick and a serviceable 4th line center. Eagles depth chart at Center looks like this (imo): Darcy Farrell Bishop Simard --------- then it gets foggy... Phélix Martineau? Samuel L'Italien? The other thing I know is that if you keep Farrell he may be moved to the wing to let Bish and Simard play 2nd and 3rd as they should be. Maybe a Center has a good camp? But L'Italien is probably a year of.... Maybe something like: To Halifax: Charles-Eric Legare To Cape Breton Samuel Leblanc 7th 2015 Halifax has too many bottom 6 centers, Leblanc is quite a bit better than Lindsay was, kills penalties, skates well, capable of chipping in offensively... real good stop-gap that could be had for cheap. Svechnikov(L) - Bishop(L) - Lazarev(R) Farrell(L) - Darcy(R) - Gauthier(R) Pelletier(L) - Simard(R) - Lyle(L) Dubios (L)- Leblanc(L) - Tower(R) Gray (L) Pelletier probably deserves to be up on one of the top two lines, but either him or Farrell are going to have to play off-wing. That, or maybe do this: Pelletier - Farrell - Darcy. Idk. Just a thought. That trade is 100% wishful thinking. The Moose gave up Ryan for a 3rd and 5th round pick. He only had 55pts and 27 goals. Now your saying a player with better numbers is worth a guy who might not even make the Moose this year and a 7th round pick? Really? Legare has more value then that and the only reason he's still with CB is the waiting game on Darcy. They need to see what happens to him at this weekends NHL draft. If he back (which I think he will be) Legare will be traded.
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Post by prostar on Jun 25, 2014 10:44:23 GMT -4
I would have Farrell making the team over Legere as a 20 but it will be close. I would say that neither Hache or Darcy will be back so that would leave both to make the team. With your projected lineup you have 4 20's. Brassard is a 20 remember. Deschamps will be on the 1st D pairing guaranteed. I would also not be surprised if Sullivan beats out Fortin in camp. I would say that you are spot on with the Bishop line. Camp is still a bit away and there are still FA's that could come in so this is a little early but that is what these boards are for. Discussion. Wow Looneytunes you really got a big hate on for this Fortin kid….. Not sure what he did so wrong last year 16 wins 3 lost and some of those wins (8) were when he was with Rimouski with a solid team in front of him and another (8) wins with our team and his last 6 games all wins GEEZ I'm confused what's the problem not bad from what I saw. Let's be honest we were not as strong as Rimouski and he still managed a decent record. As for the playoffs well I guess you can bitch about that but again there when a team gives up almost 7 to 8 goals per game with my experience in the game I would be looking at the complete team for that flop not just the goalies. And to top it off you say you believe Sullivan will take Fortin to the garbage at camp WOW if I go by the stats for the last 2 years there is no way you can compare them go have a look at the stats for yourself just on the victories Fortin was top in the league when you compare him to the other #2 goalies this year and honestly I believe if he was given a honest chance he could compete with the other top goalies but we will never know as we have Brassard coming in this year and I hope to hell he performs better than he has the last 2 years in the playoffs with incredible teams in front of him he flopped he even got pulled last year for the 5 and decisive game against Rouyn did not even start the coach went with the rookie, his NHL team Ottawa did not even provide/offer him with a contract decided to go with other goalies in there system back to the draft this year for him ooops maybe he looked good during the regular season but has fallen last two years in the playoffs and this with very respectible teams in front each time, oh well Dumont knows what he is doing with all the draft picks he will make sure we have a competitive team on the ice.
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Post by prostar on Jun 25, 2014 10:55:31 GMT -4
OH BY THE BY Looneytunes I'm very much for supporting our local boys like you but when I see a spade I call it a spade. I like the Sullivan kid just as much as you especially that he is one of our own but let's think of the team first and for most anyway from what I heard the Fortin kid may not be back this year anyways and Sully will fall into place. I hope I'm wrong here and the rumour is false and Fortin reports….
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Post by Citris on Jun 25, 2014 11:13:10 GMT -4
That trade is 100% wishful thinking. The Moose gave up Ryan for a 3rd and 5th round pick. He only had 55pts and 27 goals. Now your saying a player with better numbers is worth a guy who might not even make the Moose this year and a 7th round pick? Really? Legare has more value then that and the only reason he's still with CB is the waiting game on Darcy. They need to see what happens to him at this weekends NHL draft. If he back (which I think he will be) Legare will be traded. Firstly, like I said, just a thought. Secondly yes, Legare had better numbers than Ryan, but Andrew's size and experience adds to his value. I value Leblanc a bit higher than you do. He was lost in a numbers game last year, we were pretty deep at center ice. I'm valuing him at about a 5th in that deal. He'll probably end up fetching more than that, but, you don't necessarily open with your best offer lol. All I'm saying is that the Eagles will likely need to unload a 20 and pick up a bottom 6 Center.
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