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Post by bois on Feb 10, 2015 12:19:33 GMT -4
long wait designed to let him finish his hockey season.... probably pleads out after the year is over Yes, he probably will, if he feels he is guilty of course. But the long wait is pretty typical for matters like this. If he had plead guilty at the preliminary then it would be over ... but he'd probably be suspended from the Q. Now the Crown has to prepare for a trial and so does the defense ... while both juggle other matters ... so time is required. well aware he knows if he is guilty or not................. this just reminds me of the Evans-Renaud case tho...... go thru the processes to drag it on as long as possible so as to not interfere with players playing career..... but maybe i'm being cynical and he didn't do it but then why did the team bench him during the early part of it
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Post by SteveUL on Feb 10, 2015 12:30:05 GMT -4
long wait designed to let him finish his hockey season.... probably pleads out after the year is over Doubt that has anything to do with it. I think that's a typical wait in a case like this after a not guilty plea. If he pleads guilty now he'll likely be suspended by the Q for the rest of the year for the cocaine charge. So his not guilty plea was likely to get him beyond the end of the season.
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Post by Porkchop on Feb 10, 2015 17:13:33 GMT -4
long wait designed to let him finish his hockey season.... probably pleads out after the year is over Yes, he probably will, if he feels he is guilty of course. But the long wait is pretty typical for matters like this. If he had plead guilty at the preliminary then it would be over ... but he'd probably be suspended from the Q. Now the Crown has to prepare for a trial and so does the defense ... while both juggle other matters ... so time is required. It probably means his lawyer is working out a deal with the crown, or bargaining back and forth...a not guilty plea is usually just an extension so they have time to figure it all out and come to an agreement......if indeed he is guilty, he will probably plead guilty to a lesser charge. I had a friend go through a similar thing last year.....not drug related, but the lawyer went to court for him and put in a not guilty plea, just to give them time to work out a deal for a lesser charge. Hate to see kids involved in anything like this...I hope if he is guilty that he learns from it and goes onto a good life.
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Post by SteveUL on Feb 10, 2015 17:16:36 GMT -4
Yes, he probably will, if he feels he is guilty of course. But the long wait is pretty typical for matters like this. If he had plead guilty at the preliminary then it would be over ... but he'd probably be suspended from the Q. Now the Crown has to prepare for a trial and so does the defense ... while both juggle other matters ... so time is required. It probably means his lawyer is working out a deal with the crown, or bargaining back and forth...a not guilty plea is usually just an extension so they have time to figure it all out and come to an agreement......if indeed he is guilty, he will probably plead guilty to a lesser charge. I had a friend go through a similar thing last year.....not drug related, but the lawyer went to court for him and put in a not guilty plea, just to give them time to work out a deal for a lesser charge. Hate to see kids involved in anything like this...I hope if he is guilty that he learns from it and goes onto a good life. Typically you plead not guilty at this stage so you can get disclosure from the Crown ... might as well see what cards they are holding before you try to negotiate. If you plead guilty at the preliminary hearing, you don't get to see all of their evidence.
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Post by Porkchop on Feb 10, 2015 19:46:04 GMT -4
It probably means his lawyer is working out a deal with the crown, or bargaining back and forth...a not guilty plea is usually just an extension so they have time to figure it all out and come to an agreement......if indeed he is guilty, he will probably plead guilty to a lesser charge. I had a friend go through a similar thing last year.....not drug related, but the lawyer went to court for him and put in a not guilty plea, just to give them time to work out a deal for a lesser charge. Hate to see kids involved in anything like this...I hope if he is guilty that he learns from it and goes onto a good life. Typically you plead not guilty at this stage so you can get disclosure from the Crown ... might as well see what cards they are holding before you try to negotiate. If you plead guilty at the preliminary hearing, you don't get to see all of their evidence. Exactly.......the same court that makes you swear to tell the truth, allows you to lie to get the disclosure and see what they really got against you. lol
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Post by Jacques Strap on Feb 10, 2015 20:35:31 GMT -4
Guru will be pleased to know you kept his thread going.
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Post by Porkchop on Feb 10, 2015 22:04:42 GMT -4
Guru will be pleased to know you kept his thread going. Yes, he should thank the Moose fan that got it doing again.
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