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Post by ldub23 on Dec 8, 2014 16:25:43 GMT -4
Back to the original topic, the Tkachev-Burke trade has finally been posted on the QMJHL website.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 8, 2014 17:39:48 GMT -4
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Post by TA1 Sports on Dec 8, 2014 18:30:36 GMT -4
Might as well throw this year out guys. Zach has played in front of a junior A/Midget level defense core with the exception of Murphy and Hardie. I believe Halifax is also last in the league killing penalties. Could he have played better during a few games this year? For sure, but you can hang the poor numbers completely on him, just like he doesn't get, or deserve all the credit for the teams success in 2012-2013. Throw him on some of the better built teams in the Q and those numbers get better and he likely gives the team a great shot at the President Cup. What do you think Bibeau and Auger have played in front of for the past 2 seasons ? Actually ... it is when the goaltender faces that ton of quality chances that he shows his true mettle ... stands on his head ... shows what all of the fuss is about. Fucale doesn't do that often ... not often enough anyways. He has been in front of strong teams for the past 2 years ... and his numbers were artificially inflated. To me ... the only true number is the Sv% ... GAA is a team stat that is greatly affected by the quality of the team. Sv% is also affected because there are normally more quality chances on a weaker team, but that is the best number that we have that is pretty much a true reflection on the goaltender. GAA is a lousy number to use to evaluate a goaltender ... especially on a strong team. There use to be a number called "goalie index" or something like that ... it considered GAA, Sv% and a few other variables that I can't recall ... but I don't hear many quoting it so I can't really comment on its validity. I'm not sure I get your point about Bibeau and Auger? Bibeau put up worst numbers then Fucale in his President Cup year... Significantly worse. Was the Halifax defense group much better than Val'dor's last year? I think they're pretty comparable. Auger has definitely shown the ability to "steal" games while facing high volumes of shots with a below average group in front of him. (Prior to this season). To say that Fucale doesn't stand on his head much, or doesn't do it enough, is irrelevant. Halifax when playing Ducharmes system well, limits high volume shot totals. Resulting in Zachs 20 shot, 3 goal allowed type nights. You can't look at the numbers in a vacuum. I've seen every goal he's allowed at home in his career. He lets in his fair share of bad goals, but many times has also been left of to dry by defensive breakdowns. I guess what I am arguing here, to put a bow on this is like most good goalies, he's a piece of a winning equation. Rarely do you find goalies at any level that regularly "steal" games on a consistent basis. Quick, Price, go down the list. They usually have a strong defensive team system in front of them. They make those big saves in big moments, that some here are crediting Fucale with, rightfully. I think yours, and others expectations of what he is may be simply inflated because of hype and name recognition. I don't think he needs to have the best numbers in the Q, to be the best goalie in the Q. He's proven that, unless he's fooling the likes of Hockey Canada, who clearly agree as well.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Dec 8, 2014 18:47:52 GMT -4
What are they saying will happen, oh you of the "random link to a french article with no comment about it"? lol
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Post by bigdumrockett on Dec 8, 2014 21:31:12 GMT -4
Did anyone actually read the name of this thread? How the hell did this turn into the Zach Fucale show?
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Post by sc74 on Dec 8, 2014 22:09:29 GMT -4
What are they saying will happen, oh you of the "random link to a french article with no comment about it"? lol There's one part where it says Tkachev is the first part of a major deal.
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Post by mooseinfo on Dec 8, 2014 22:35:38 GMT -4
Did anyone actually read the name of this thread? How the hell did this turn into the Zach Fucale show? Its the reason he gets so much critique. He plays for HFX and not Moncton. They are the most active/vocal boards. So anytime a player is on HFX that is likely to be talked about most, especially when they play for Canada. Drouin, Mackinnon are gone. But ya who brought it up?
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Post by mooseinfo on Dec 8, 2014 22:42:57 GMT -4
Might as well throw this year out guys. Zach has played in front of a junior A/Midget level defense core with the exception of Murphy and Hardie. I believe Halifax is also last in the league killing penalties. Could he have played better during a few games this year? For sure, but you can hang the poor numbers completely on him, just like he doesn't get, or deserve all the credit for the teams success in 2012-2013. Throw him on some of the better built teams in the Q and those numbers get better and he likely gives the team a great shot at the President Cup. What do you think Bibeau and Auger have played in front of for the past 2 seasons ? Actually ... it is when the goaltender faces that ton of quality chances that he shows his true mettle ... stands on his head ... shows what all of the fuss is about. Fucale doesn't do that often ... not often enough anyways. He has been in front of strong teams for the past 2 years ... and his numbers were artificially inflated. To me ... the only true number is the Sv% ... GAA is a team stat that is greatly affected by the quality of the team. Sv% is also affected because there are normally more quality chances on a weaker team, but that is the best number that we have that is pretty much a true reflection on the goaltender. GAA is a lousy number to use to evaluate a goaltender ... especially on a strong team. There use to be a number called "goalie index" or something like that ... it considered GAA, Sv% and a few other variables that I can't recall ... but I don't hear many quoting it so I can't really comment on its validity. You would have to factor in PP/PK but then ppl say Plus minus sucks and it factors in PP.
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Post by juliansteed on Dec 8, 2014 23:06:52 GMT -4
Might as well throw this year out guys. Zach has played in front of a junior A/Midget level defense core with the exception of Murphy and Hardie. I believe Halifax is also last in the league killing penalties.
On its own, that's not much of a case for Fucuale. Usually if your PK is weak, your goalie is part of the problem, but rarely the sole problem. Not saying that the PK unit in front of Fucale might not be absolutely terrible to the point that no goalie could save it from being a disaster. I have no idea if that is or is not the case. Just saying that simply pointing to the Halifax's PK as being weak without breaking it down further is more of a strike against Fucale than anything.
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Post by jazz on Dec 8, 2014 23:13:50 GMT -4
The French site is guessing both Sweeney and Garett Johnston might be going to Quebec.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 8, 2014 23:26:18 GMT -4
The French site is guessing both Sweeney and Garett Johnston might be going to Quebec. If that is in fact the case, there has to be big pieces coming back...either top young players at midseason or big time players at the draft. Booth? Timashov?
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Post by jazz on Dec 8, 2014 23:39:14 GMT -4
One suggested Donaghey, Fiori, Sutten in December and Booth next summer.
They also suggested it would not be Timashov as the timing of the Euro draft would leave Quebec with just one Euro?
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Dec 9, 2014 0:32:43 GMT -4
If that was the case
Booth donaghey sutton fiori burke
For
Tkachev sweeney johnston
Solid return and im guessing theres futures in the lalonde deal as well
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Post by sc74 on Dec 9, 2014 0:38:05 GMT -4
How's Garret Johnston?
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Dec 9, 2014 0:43:16 GMT -4
Great wheels and puck handler, needs to start shooting more and use his size a little more
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