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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Feb 19, 2015 14:36:04 GMT -4
This was a conversation started in a thread on the Islanders board but is better placed here so figured I'd move it over here. Ehlers being a Moosehead next year I think will depend on if Cheveldayoff is the GM or not. He likes to bring players along slowly. If he gets fired and a new GM is in place I think he is as good as gone. As for this team being an upper class team it can totally happen. With Ehlers they will be scary. With out him they still can have a strong first line of Meier, Moynihan and Fortier. You say Gadoury being gone will hurt I can't agree with that. If we get a new Euro I would think he can put up comparable numbers. So I take that as a wash. Loosing Hardie isn't that bad either because we get Donaghey to take his place. That's another wash. Then if you look at our D it will be close to the same. They've done a great job this year. The thing is this division could be the strongest one next year. With the likes of PEI, CB, and SJ all set up for the next few years. The Mooseheads will be taking a step back whatever. If Ehlers goes pro that is a big loss and a new Euro would replace Gadoury but it is still a question as to how much he brings first year. Especially since you're talking of a guy probably around #30. If Ehlers does return then the best move for Halifax to make is to trade one of Ehlers or Meier unless the new Euro really blows. and you're still losing Gadoury. There isn't really anyone in house that is poised for offence so you're going in with few offensive guys - Moynihan, Meier, Fortier, Euro. The rest are really two-way/grinder types. It's unlikely any drafted players will make a big improvement, but should have opportunity. I just see the Mooseheads being in the bottom five next year. Ehlers may be the only thing that could change that.
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Post by Reesor on Feb 19, 2015 14:58:06 GMT -4
This was a conversation started in a thread on the Islanders board but is better placed here so figured I'd move it over here. Ehlers being a Moosehead next year I think will depend on if Cheveldayoff is the GM or not. He likes to bring players along slowly. If he gets fired and a new GM is in place I think he is as good as gone. As for this team being an upper class team it can totally happen. With Ehlers they will be scary. With out him they still can have a strong first line of Meier, Moynihan and Fortier. You say Gadoury being gone will hurt I can't agree with that. If we get a new Euro I would think he can put up comparable numbers. So I take that as a wash. Loosing Hardie isn't that bad either because we get Donaghey to take his place. That's another wash. Then if you look at our D it will be close to the same. They've done a great job this year. The thing is this division could be the strongest one next year. With the likes of PEI, CB, and SJ all set up for the next few years. The Mooseheads will be taking a step back whatever. If Ehlers goes pro that is a big loss and a new Euro would replace Gadoury but it is still a question as to how much he brings first year. Especially since you're talking of a guy probably around #30. If Ehlers does return then the best move for Halifax to make is to trade one of Ehlers or Meier unless the new Euro really blows. and you're still losing Gadoury. There isn't really anyone in house that is poised for offence so you're going in with few offensive guys - Moynihan, Meier, Fortier, Euro. The rest are really two-way/grinder types. It's unlikely any drafted players will make a big improvement, but should have opportunity. I just see the Mooseheads being in the bottom five next year. Ehlers may be the only thing that could change that. With Ehlers I really believe we'll just as good, if not better thank this year... even without Hardie and Gadoury. Speculating about Donaghey... a healthy Donaghey would anchor our back end better than Murphy did. Losing Bent/Vuic/Leblanc won't be that big of a deal. All of our young guys are will be one year older, which should help the defence a bit. I can see us being a .500 team or just below before Christmas. More than likely we'll lose Ehlers and Meier (and Donaghey) for the first few games. Ehlers could be gone until late October if he stays with Winnipeg for 9 games. Without Ehlers, there's a good chance we're bottom 5. If we trade Meier/Ehlers/Donaghey at Christmas, we'll slowly sink in the 2nd half. The absolute tank isn't going to happen next year I don't believe. That'll happen in 2016-17.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Feb 19, 2015 15:04:28 GMT -4
I don't think Ehlers will be back and that's a big reason why I think there will be a big drop.
Brassard/Falkenham/Moynihan likely the overagers.
Fortier is really the only one who probably has potential for a breakout, and has had a disappointing this year. But is only 17.
Other prospects really don't project to be more than third liners who "could" step up now and then. It's not like there's guys on the 3rd/4th lines you see as being key offensive pieces down the line.
If they get a good offer for Meier...take it!!
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Post by guru on Feb 19, 2015 19:05:33 GMT -4
Who cares about next season? The trade deadline is long gone, the regular season and playoffs aren't over, the drafts haven't taken place. If you are a true fan, you aren't thinking about next season.
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Post by Reesor on Feb 19, 2015 19:07:14 GMT -4
Who cares about next season? The trade deadline is long gone, the regular season and playoffs aren't over, the drafts haven't taken place. If you are a true fan, you aren't thinking about next season. I'm a true fan, and I am thinking about next season. There goes that theory.
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Post by guru on Feb 19, 2015 19:09:11 GMT -4
Who cares about next season? The trade deadline is long gone, the regular season and playoffs aren't over, the drafts haven't taken place. If you are a true fan, you aren't thinking about next season. I'm a true fan, and I am thinking about next season. There goes that theory. Doesn't make any sense on why you would do this now.
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Post by nsvees on Feb 19, 2015 19:28:37 GMT -4
I think I read somewhere that since Ehlers is a Euro, I think he could play in the AHL next season. I would think that's where the Jets would like to send him if he doesn't make the NHL. Maybe I'm wrong?
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Feb 19, 2015 19:45:06 GMT -4
I think I read somewhere that since Ehlers is a Euro, I think he could play in the AHL next season. I would think that's where the Jets would like to send him if he doesn't make the NHL. Maybe I'm wrong? Nope. He was drafted out of the CHL so it is NHL or Q for him.
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Feb 19, 2015 19:45:20 GMT -4
I think I read somewhere that since Ehlers is a Euro, I think he could play in the AHL next season. I would think that's where the Jets would like to send him if he doesn't make the NHL. Maybe I'm wrong? He was drafted out of the CHL so it's halifax or NHL, otherwise he'd probably be in the A this season.
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Post by emerz on Feb 19, 2015 19:49:09 GMT -4
I think I read somewhere that since Ehlers is a Euro, I think he could play in the AHL next season. I would think that's where the Jets would like to send him if he doesn't make the NHL. Maybe I'm wrong? He was drafted out of the CHL so it's halifax or NHL, otherwise he'd probably be in the A this season. Some additional info: Late birthdays (September 16-December 31) have to wait an extra year for the draft, but are eligible for the AHL with the rest of the players from their birth year. Ie, any CHL born in 1995 is eligible for the AHL next season. Draisaitl (October 1995) would be AHL eligible next season (Drafted out of the CHL), Ehlers (February 1996) won't be eligible next season even though both are euros drafted out of the CHL last year.
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Post by nsvees on Feb 19, 2015 20:30:13 GMT -4
Then I was wrong. My mistake. But I still think the Jets would prefer to send him to the AHL instead of Major Junior if he doesn't make their roster next season; he'd be better off there than here. If the Jets send him back here, Cam should see what he can get for him; though I don't think he'd trade him just for the sake of trading him if the offers aren't worth considering.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Feb 19, 2015 20:32:00 GMT -4
Same with a lot of elite 18 and 19 year olds.
Obviously all overagers free to play wherever.
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Post by nsvees on Feb 19, 2015 20:35:02 GMT -4
Same with a lot of elite 18 and 19 year olds. Obviously all overagers free to play wherever. I agree with you there. In some cases, Major Junior hockey doesn't give them the challenge they need (nothing for them left to prove), and doesn't prepare the player for the next level like their NHL team would like.
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Post by Critical Eye on Feb 20, 2015 0:39:55 GMT -4
Brassard/Falkenham/Moynihan likely the overagers. I'd keep Bent over Falkenham - he's been an experiment turned bad....
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Post by sjc on Feb 20, 2015 0:47:22 GMT -4
Brassard/Falkenham/Moynihan likely the overagers. I'd keep Bent over Falkenham - he's been an experiment turned bad....Bent>Falkenham LeBlanc>Brassard
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