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Post by sc74 on Apr 4, 2015 10:09:06 GMT -4
Frankly for Quebec to win their main focus should be making Svetchnikov look invisible. He obviosuly was not. But when you fight through that much attaention you can make mistakes. That is why Quebec won. Dumont said their best players were better than his - well it has become easier for Quebec to shut down the Eagles best player than for the Eagles to shut down the Quebec best players. This was inevitable when you have many more healthier best players on a team stacked to host the Memorial Cup. The Remparts have had help from their depth throughout this series more than their best players being the best. But it's true that Timashov and Brouillard were good last night.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2015 10:27:27 GMT -4
I don't know what game some of you watched because I found it was pretty even? The shots did favor Quebec but we missed the net with a lot of chances in close. Quebec made the most of the power play opportunities and we didn't. Svechnikov, Dubois, Bishop, Martineau were our best players which is promising since they are our future. I also thought Smith and Brunelle looked good (minus the bonehead roughing penalty he took). Drives me fucking crazy when people come on here and preach that you can't talk about the refs cause they are always bad so get over it. In an entertaining playoff game like this all I want is for the refs to let them play. This game wasn't decided by the refs but my fuck MacCormick was bad. Hit to the head call on Boucher? Really? And the worst part is this joke of a league will probably add a game suspension to it. Whoever the short linesman was was equally brutal for both teams. Can someone explain to me the rule on the tripping/diving call? How come Quebec didn't have to send someone to serve the penalty for Fucale? Seems onesided that we lose one of our top pk in Bishop and their pp units stay intact. In the end Fucale was solid. Thought after letting the first shot in that he would have a short night buthe settled in and shut the door on us. Sullivan was very good too but misplayed 4 or 5 dump ins before the one that cost us a goal. I assume he gets the call for game 6. Hopefully they can pull out a win Monday and force a game seven. Drives me crazier that for 15 years people come on here and go on and on and on about the refs being so awful but it's always followed by a 1 sided debate on how they were awful towards the home team. Not once has anyone mentioned the 2 or 3 blatant infractions the Eagles got away with. Or the offsides that went our way resulting in scoring chances. You all see it in rose colored glasses with Screaming Eagle logos on the side of them. Just look at this thread...since the game ended 6 or 7 posters complaining about the officiating but not ONCE calling out the shitty goaltending for again giving up an absolute back breaking goal off of a giveaway behind the net. 0 comments about Bishops turnover filled evening though. We did not play a disciplined game and they played like veterans which was the complete opposite of game 3 where the ref penalized them for the immaturity but it smartened them up by game 5 so how is that the refs fault? We did not play good. As in most QMJHL games this game was decided by the play of the 20yr olds. We did not get a very good game from any of our 3. Their 2 played excellent. If ALL there is to talk about is bad officiating some of you missed a hockey game. 2 games in a row they completely took it to us with 30 shots or more in the first 40 minutes and taking a lead to the 3rd then became a defensive team and took away the middle of the ice in the 3rd.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2015 10:30:41 GMT -4
Frankly for Quebec to win their main focus should be making Svetchnikov look invisible. He obviosuly was not. But when you fight through that much attaention you can make mistakes. That is why Quebec won. Dumont said their best players were better than his - well it has become easier for Quebec to shut down the Eagles best player than for the Eagles to shut down the Quebec best players. This was inevitable when you have many more healthier best players on a team stacked to host the Memorial Cup. The Remparts have had help from their depth throughout this series more than their best players being the best. But it's true that Timashov and Brouillard were good last night. Timashov has been a force all week. Very exciting player to watch.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2015 10:32:02 GMT -4
If you really think this loss had nothing to do with the refs you must not have wat he's the same game I did. The hit to the head call on Boucher was completely ridiculous, Brunelle's call for the same infraction was closer to an actual hit to the head but I still don't think it was. Bishop's slashing penalty on Fucale was ludicrous, he barely touched him and Fucale went down holding his leg like he got shot. Why can't there be a diving penalty without a penalty going the other way in return. Lastly, Svechnikov's goaltender interference penalty was bullshit. Fucale reaches out and slashes him in the leg as he skates by the net and we get the penalty. WOW, unbelievably bad. Those are just a few examples of what was a completely one sided game being called by the officials. Anyway, I already had my rant. Just hoping we can get a win Monday and then it's all down to one game on Tuesday. I agree worst ref game i have seen in a long time you are spot on they should have let the teams play hockey rather than ruin the game for the fans and i would bet that 90% of the fans tonight WOULD AGREE with you on those statements Mr. goeaglesgo. I believe the boys gave a great effort given the hard game last night. No comment on the game winner?
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Post by dt281 on Apr 4, 2015 11:03:51 GMT -4
I don't know what game some of you watched because I found it was pretty even? The shots did favor Quebec but we missed the net with a lot of chances in close. Quebec made the most of the power play opportunities and we didn't. Svechnikov, Dubois, Bishop, Martineau were our best players which is promising since they are our future. I also thought Smith and Brunelle looked good (minus the bonehead roughing penalty he took). Drives me fucking crazy when people come on here and preach that you can't talk about the refs cause they are always bad so get over it. In an entertaining playoff game like this all I want is for the refs to let them play. This game wasn't decided by the refs but my fuck MacCormick was bad. Hit to the head call on Boucher? Really? And the worst part is this joke of a league will probably add a game suspension to it. Whoever the short linesman was was equally brutal for both teams. Can someone explain to me the rule on the tripping/diving call? How come Quebec didn't have to send someone to serve the penalty for Fucale? Seems onesided that we lose one of our top pk in Bishop and their pp units stay intact. In the end Fucale was solid. Thought after letting the first shot in that he would have a short night buthe settled in and shut the door on us. Sullivan was very good too but misplayed 4 or 5 dump ins before the one that cost us a goal. I assume he gets the call for game 6. Hopefully they can pull out a win Monday and force a game seven. Drives me crazier that for 15 years people come on here and go on and on and on about the refs being so awful but it's always followed by a 1 sided debate on how they were awful towards the home team. Not once has anyone mentioned the 2 or 3 blatant infractions the Eagles got away with. Or the offsides that went our way resulting in scoring chances. You all see it in rose colored glasses with Screaming Eagle logos on the side of them. Just look at this thread...since the game ended 6 or 7 posters complaining about the officiating but not ONCE calling out the shitty goaltending for again giving up an absolute back breaking goal off of a giveaway behind the net. 0 comments about Bishops turnover filled evening though. We did not play a disciplined game and they played like veterans which was the complete opposite of game 3 where the ref penalized them for the immaturity but it smartened them up by game 5 so how is that the refs fault? We did not play good. As in most QMJHL games this game was decided by the play of the 20yr olds. We did not get a very good game from any of our 3. Their 2 played excellent. If ALL there is to talk about is bad officiating some of you missed a hockey game. 2 games in a row they completely took it to us with 30 shots or more in the first 40 minutes and taking a lead to the 3rd then became a defensive team and took away the middle of the ice in the 3rd. I wasn't at Game 3 so I have no idea how the refs were? Every time someone comments on refs you tell them the same story, that's the Q is deal with it. It's just as much part of the game as bad goaltending so since this is a public forum I have no problem when people bring it up. I said the linesmen were terrible for both teams. I said it wasn't the reason we lost, I said our 20yo weren't good enough, Sullivan missed played the puck etc. other than playing the puck I felt Sullivan played a decent game, just Fucale was better. Quebec are a solid team that seem to be getting their game together now. The shitty first half put us against them so it's our fault we drew this matchup. Too bad for the untimely injuries this series because I think we may have pulled it off. If you think the refs were good let us know? I agree that it shouldn't be an excuse for the loss but I have no problem with peoples criticism either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 11:50:05 GMT -4
Drives me crazier that for 15 years people come on here and go on and on and on about the refs being so awful but it's always followed by a 1 sided debate on how they were awful towards the home team. Not once has anyone mentioned the 2 or 3 blatant infractions the Eagles got away with. Or the offsides that went our way resulting in scoring chances. You all see it in rose colored glasses with Screaming Eagle logos on the side of them. Just look at this thread...since the game ended 6 or 7 posters complaining about the officiating but not ONCE calling out the shitty goaltending for again giving up an absolute back breaking goal off of a giveaway behind the net. 0 comments about Bishops turnover filled evening though. We did not play a disciplined game and they played like veterans which was the complete opposite of game 3 where the ref penalized them for the immaturity but it smartened them up by game 5 so how is that the refs fault? We did not play good. As in most QMJHL games this game was decided by the play of the 20yr olds. We did not get a very good game from any of our 3. Their 2 played excellent. If ALL there is to talk about is bad officiating some of you missed a hockey game. 2 games in a row they completely took it to us with 30 shots or more in the first 40 minutes and taking a lead to the 3rd then became a defensive team and took away the middle of the ice in the 3rd. I wasn't at Game 3 so I have no idea how the refs were? Every time someone comments on refs you tell them the same story, that's the Q is deal with it. It's just as much part of the game as bad goaltending so since this is a public forum I have no problem when people bring it up. I said the linesmen were terrible for both teams. I said it wasn't the reason we lost, I said our 20yo weren't good enough, Sullivan missed played the puck etc. other than playing the puck I felt Sullivan played a decent game, just Fucale was better. Quebec are a solid team that seem to be getting their game together now. The shitty first half put us against them so it's our fault we drew this matchup. Too bad for the untimely injuries this series because I think we may have pulled it off. If you think the refs were good let us know? I agree that it shouldn't be an excuse for the loss but I have no problem with peoples criticism either. Don't worry, it's just the way it is here. If you voice your opinion it gets shot down.
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Post by looneytunes on Apr 4, 2015 12:01:25 GMT -4
Frankly for Quebec to win their main focus should be making Svetchnikov look invisible. He obviosuly was not. But when you fight through that much attaention you can make mistakes. That is why Quebec won. Dumont said their best players were better than his - well it has become easier for Quebec to shut down the Eagles best player than for the Eagles to shut down the Quebec best players. This was inevitable when you have many more healthier best players on a team stacked to host the Memorial Cup. The Remparts have had help from their depth throughout this series more than their best players being the best. But it's true that Timashov and Brouillard were good last night. + The guys on Quebecs third line could be on CB's second. Quebec has a stacked roster that kills CB's on paper. I have no doubt that 2 of our 20's were dead tired with Farrel still being shook from whatever injury he sustained.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2015 12:01:52 GMT -4
Drives me crazier that for 15 years people come on here and go on and on and on about the refs being so awful but it's always followed by a 1 sided debate on how they were awful towards the home team. Not once has anyone mentioned the 2 or 3 blatant infractions the Eagles got away with. Or the offsides that went our way resulting in scoring chances. You all see it in rose colored glasses with Screaming Eagle logos on the side of them. Just look at this thread...since the game ended 6 or 7 posters complaining about the officiating but not ONCE calling out the shitty goaltending for again giving up an absolute back breaking goal off of a giveaway behind the net. 0 comments about Bishops turnover filled evening though. We did not play a disciplined game and they played like veterans which was the complete opposite of game 3 where the ref penalized them for the immaturity but it smartened them up by game 5 so how is that the refs fault? We did not play good. As in most QMJHL games this game was decided by the play of the 20yr olds. We did not get a very good game from any of our 3. Their 2 played excellent. If ALL there is to talk about is bad officiating some of you missed a hockey game. 2 games in a row they completely took it to us with 30 shots or more in the first 40 minutes and taking a lead to the 3rd then became a defensive team and took away the middle of the ice in the 3rd. I wasn't at Game 3 so I have no idea how the refs were? Every time someone comments on refs you tell them the same story, that's the Q is deal with it. It's just as much part of the game as bad goaltending so since this is a public forum I have no problem when people bring it up. I said the linesmen were terrible for both teams. I said it wasn't the reason we lost, I said our 20yo weren't good enough, Sullivan missed played the puck etc. other than playing the puck I felt Sullivan played a decent game, just Fucale was better. Quebec are a solid team that seem to be getting their game together now. The shitty first half put us against them so it's our fault we drew this matchup. Too bad for the untimely injuries this series because I think we may have pulled it off. If you think the refs were good let us know? I agree that it shouldn't be an excuse for the loss but I have no problem with peoples criticism either. Didnt say they were good. Were mediocre and both sodes had some bad calls and bad missed calls. I am not saying you cant talk about it. Part of the public forum is discussion and defending opinion. When someone comes on some day and says the visiting team was robbed for once I will let you debate them. Until then the home team is about 1000 to 0 in terms of being screwed by mediocre Q officials. Do you not see the point?
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Post by looneytunes on Apr 4, 2015 12:03:44 GMT -4
Drives me crazier that for 15 years people come on here and go on and on and on about the refs being so awful but it's always followed by a 1 sided debate on how they were awful towards the home team. Not once has anyone mentioned the 2 or 3 blatant infractions the Eagles got away with. Or the offsides that went our way resulting in scoring chances. You all see it in rose colored glasses with Screaming Eagle logos on the side of them. Just look at this thread...since the game ended 6 or 7 posters complaining about the officiating but not ONCE calling out the shitty goaltending for again giving up an absolute back breaking goal off of a giveaway behind the net. 0 comments about Bishops turnover filled evening though. We did not play a disciplined game and they played like veterans which was the complete opposite of game 3 where the ref penalized them for the immaturity but it smartened them up by game 5 so how is that the refs fault? We did not play good. As in most QMJHL games this game was decided by the play of the 20yr olds. We did not get a very good game from any of our 3. Their 2 played excellent. If ALL there is to talk about is bad officiating some of you missed a hockey game. 2 games in a row they completely took it to us with 30 shots or more in the first 40 minutes and taking a lead to the 3rd then became a defensive team and took away the middle of the ice in the 3rd. I wasn't at Game 3 so I have no idea how the refs were? Every time someone comments on refs you tell them the same story, that's the Q is deal with it. It's just as much part of the game as bad goaltending so since this is a public forum I have no problem when people bring it up. I said the linesmen were terrible for both teams. I said it wasn't the reason we lost, I said our 20yo weren't good enough, Sullivan missed played the puck etc. other than playing the puck I felt Sullivan played a decent game, just Fucale was better. Quebec are a solid team that seem to be getting their game together now. The shitty first half put us against them so it's our fault we drew this matchup. Too bad for the untimely injuries this series because I think we may have pulled it off. If you think the refs were good let us know? I agree that it shouldn't be an excuse for the loss but I have no problem with peoples criticism either. Losing to Bathurst at the end of the season did that as well. They made their bed now they are sleeping in it.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2015 12:15:44 GMT -4
I wasn't at Game 3 so I have no idea how the refs were? Every time someone comments on refs you tell them the same story, that's the Q is deal with it. It's just as much part of the game as bad goaltending so since this is a public forum I have no problem when people bring it up. I said the linesmen were terrible for both teams. I said it wasn't the reason we lost, I said our 20yo weren't good enough, Sullivan missed played the puck etc. other than playing the puck I felt Sullivan played a decent game, just Fucale was better. Quebec are a solid team that seem to be getting their game together now. The shitty first half put us against them so it's our fault we drew this matchup. Too bad for the untimely injuries this series because I think we may have pulled it off. If you think the refs were good let us know? I agree that it shouldn't be an excuse for the loss but I have no problem with peoples criticism either. Don't worry, it's just the way it is here. If you voice your opinion it gets shot down. Yes lets not look past things that negatively affect both sides and ask why we lost lets whine about those factors as the reason why we lost. Both teams are affected by mediocre officials. It is NOT why the Eagles lost. But its the dominating story line for some reason as if I was the only one watching Quebec just start to own a series they should have from game 1. I will add that its hard to shoot down good opinion. It is not hard to shoot down whining about officiating when they had as much if not more right to be as upset about it as we were. 2 hockey teams decided the game, not the officials. Feel free to whine about whatever you like but dont bitch about people offering differing opinion.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2015 12:20:28 GMT -4
I wasn't at Game 3 so I have no idea how the refs were? Every time someone comments on refs you tell them the same story, that's the Q is deal with it. It's just as much part of the game as bad goaltending so since this is a public forum I have no problem when people bring it up. I said the linesmen were terrible for both teams. I said it wasn't the reason we lost, I said our 20yo weren't good enough, Sullivan missed played the puck etc. other than playing the puck I felt Sullivan played a decent game, just Fucale was better. Quebec are a solid team that seem to be getting their game together now. The shitty first half put us against them so it's our fault we drew this matchup. Too bad for the untimely injuries this series because I think we may have pulled it off. If you think the refs were good let us know? I agree that it shouldn't be an excuse for the loss but I have no problem with peoples criticism either. Losing to Bathurst at the end of the season did that as well. They made their bed now they are sleeping in it. Exactly. A season long issue with playing 60 minutes and being unable to defend leads has put a team that should have enough skill and talent to be a 2nd or 3rd round team be a low seed out in round 1 to a superior team. Thankfully 2 high 1st rounders should help replace some of what we lose for next year.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2015 12:23:25 GMT -4
The Remparts have had help from their depth throughout this series more than their best players being the best. But it's true that Timashov and Brouillard were good last night. + The guys on Quebecs third line could be on CB's second. Quebec has a stacked roster that kills CB's on paper. I have no doubt that 2 of our 20's were dead tired with Farrel still being shook from whatever injury he sustained. Exactly how I seen it as well. Farrell never looked involved much last night. Hinds seems to be running out of gas and Anderson is more of a 3rd liner getting top 6 minutes against a much better team. With 2 days off we should see a much fresher Eagles team for game 6.
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Post by ppinto123 on Apr 4, 2015 12:27:11 GMT -4
Until the power play gets as lobsided as Game 2 Islanders vs Phoenix(11 vs 2) it could still be worse although I wish it does not happen again ever in this league pretty sad officiating throughout the league some games they cost a team a game however most they even themselves out
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Post by hal on Apr 4, 2015 12:58:54 GMT -4
Losing to Bathurst at the end of the season did that as well. They made their bed now they are sleeping in it. Exactly. A season long issue with playing 60 minutes and being unable to defend leads has put a team that should have enough skill and talent to be a 2nd or 3rd round team be a low seed out in round 1 to a superior team. Thankfully 2 high 1st rounders should help replace some of what we lose for next year. So you see those 2 first rounders here ?
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Post by hfxfan09 on Apr 4, 2015 14:33:26 GMT -4
Officials in the Q have always been Bias towards the Quebec teams, other than the Maritime teams no idea why wasn't at the game so can't say why the Eagles lost; But I agree most of the officials in the Q are horrendous. There is a few like Thomander that have gotten better and let them play.
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