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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 0:33:54 GMT -4
And Crazy Joe you have been the Queen of playoff whiners..congrats.
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Post by L'il Boy on Apr 19, 2015 5:13:33 GMT -4
Funny I never heard one Mooseheads fan say that when Erne's major was rescinded. Or does this only apply when it's a Mooseheads player who gets the favorable call? Sent from my C6906 using proboards Erne's major wasn't rescinded. He just was not given a suspension. My bad, it was Sorensen that had the match penalty rescinded. But my point stands. ? Sent from my C6906 using proboards
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 19, 2015 6:34:51 GMT -4
I knew there was one. And Halifax fans' collective panties were in a huge bunch that time. Just showing how what is "nothing" according to CJD was a huge deal for the Moose fans not long ago. Every incident is not the same! lol Moose fans were pissed because Ashley got a suspension of 4 playoff games for a very similar incident the year before... and the league actually LESSENED Sorenson's penalty when he did it to Ashley. What Sorenson did and Connor Moyniham did are two entirely different things. You can't say because Moose fans were mad at that, that we shouldn't be mad at this. Was Moynihan the aggressor in an incident where no fighting major was given to Klebanskyj ... yet your own words say Moynihan landed a few punches and bloodied Klebanskyj ? The Ref that was in the middle of the scrum felt he was.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Apr 19, 2015 8:43:58 GMT -4
And Crazy Joe you have been the Queen of playoff whiners..congrats. What have I whined about? I think you are mixing up whining with arguing... The whining coming from a few moncton posters about officiating - in a series where Moncton have hardly been called for anything - has been unreal. Everyone else seems to be watching a fairly clean series where most obvious calls are made with a few iffy (normal) calls as well. Clearly, struggling to win games against the 12th seed who lacked depth BEFORE losing their second line, and who has a defense with nothing but rookies after Hardie, has you guys on edge and grasping at this point.
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Post by mooseinfo on Apr 19, 2015 8:59:08 GMT -4
Here goes the Q against Moncton again. Its reviewed for a reason. Funny I never heard one Mooseheads fan say that when Erne's major was rescinded. Or does this only apply when it's a Mooseheads player who gets the favorable call? Sent from my C6906 using proboards Point is the Moncton whiners, since the drop of the first puck, are not better then the Moosehead whiners they are pointing at. I would say it has been much worse though as some were whiny little bitches, fearful of the series outcome, after the first 2 loses. Now they have turned into cocky tough guys, with the wins, from the same hockey team they trashed for losing the first 2. I am not the one micro analyzing every penalty or non call, people are addicted to this. At least making Moncton work for it gives them no rest. I am enjoying the HOCKEY, are you!
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Post by topnet on Apr 19, 2015 10:38:10 GMT -4
And Crazy Joe you have been the Queen of playoff whiners..congrats. What have I whined about? I think you are mixing up whining with arguing... The whining coming from a few Moncton posters about officiating - in a series where Moncton have hardly been called for anything - has been unreal. Everyone else seems to be watching a fairly clean series where most obvious calls are made with a few iffy (normal) calls as well. Clearly, struggling to win games against the 12th seed who lacked depth BEFORE losing their second line, and who has a defense with nothing but rookies after Hardie, has you guys on edge and grasping at this point. Not sure I can agree with the comment that Moncton has hardly been called for anything. I assume you might have missed the first two games of the series. The ref'ing has sort of panned out and it looks like they are letting them play a little more and not falling for the 'beggin' for penalty looks from both teams. What I did notice about Ehlers (who I agree is the best in the league and wished that we would have had the assets to go after him at the trade deadline to fill our vacant Euro spot) is that when he wants a call and doesn't get it, it really seems to get him off his game momentarily. I think he is lucky in Fredericton not to get an unsportsmanship 2 min. with some of his flowery language towards the ref. I watched what Chicoutimi did to Garland, Ehlers would have gone off his rocker if he had a shadow all season puttin' the wood to him all game. The other thing I would like to see come to an end is all this talk about the 12th seed. If you want to play that card go ahead. Did I think that Chicoutimi was a legitimate 15th seed? No. They had their top 2 players (Ranger and Boudreault out for most of the season) Did anyone consider Gatineau a legitimate 14th seed? No. (They just under achieved their way into 14th spot, but, after the trade dealine were coming on strong at the end of the season prior to putting out #2 BLB) Were Cape Breton after their trades and Olivier Leblanc injured a 13th seed? No. There is parity in this league this year. Rimouski is about the only team I see as a No. 1 and should run the table. One thing that will help them is that they will not meet Quebec in the semi final as Quebec has a team when rolling that could beat them. So, if you want to lean on that 12th seed crutch to explain away a potential 2nd round defeat (too early to say) then go ahead. I think you cheapen what your team did up until now if you do.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Apr 19, 2015 11:00:31 GMT -4
Did I think that Chicoutimi was a legitimate 15th seed? No. They had their top 2 players (Ranger and Boudreault out for most of the season) Laurent Dauphin is better than both of those. Cape Breton with LeBlanc injured probably were about a 12/13th seed. They had a little spell where they picked up but soon dropped back to a team within that range.
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Post by topnet on Apr 19, 2015 11:20:09 GMT -4
Did I think that Chicoutimi was a legitimate 15th seed? No. They had their top 2 players (Ranger and Boudreault out for most of the season) Laurent Dauphin is better than both of those. Cape Breton with LeBlanc injured probably were about a 12/13th seed. They had a little spell where they picked up but soon dropped back to a team within that range. True about Dauphin and I realized that after I pushed "post" He definitely is better I should have wrote 2 of your top 3 etc. You take 2 out of the top 3 from Halifax for the same amount of games that (Ranger and Boudreault) missed and I think you would have had a higher match up in round 1.
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Post by Reesor on Apr 19, 2015 11:23:27 GMT -4
The other thing I would like to see come to an end is all this talk about the 12th seed. If you want to play that card go ahead. Did I think that Chicoutimi was a legitimate 15th seed? No. They had their top 2 players (Ranger and Boudreault out for most of the season) Did anyone consider Gatineau a legitimate 14th seed? No. (They just under achieved their way into 14th spot, but, after the trade dealine were coming on strong at the end of the season prior to putting out #2 BLB) Were Cape Breton after their trades and Olivier Leblanc injured a 13th seed? No. There is parity in this league this year. Rimouski is about the only team I see as a No. 1 and should run the table. One thing that will help them is that they will not meet Quebec in the semi final as Quebec has a team when rolling that could beat them. So, if you want to lean on that 12th seed crutch to explain away a potential 2nd round defeat (too early to say) then go ahead. I think you cheapen what your team did up until now if you do. So not only are we the 12th seed, but the 13th, 14th and 15th seeds are all better than their rankings. So I guess that would make us the 15th seed. I think you're worried that we're cheapening Moncton's accomplishment of getting to the 3rd round by saying they had an easy ride through the 15th and 12th seeds. Sort of like back in 2013 when Halifax had to go through the 16th, 13th and 8th seeds to get to the finals. We didn't care what people said about that back then, just like you shouldn't care now. Sometimes teams have an easier ride in the playoffs, and sometimes they have a tough ride. The 2010 Wildcats had the toughest road to a President's Cup win I've ever seen. It all evens out in the end.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 19, 2015 11:26:24 GMT -4
And Crazy Joe you have been the Queen of playoff whiners..congrats. What have I whined about? I think you are mixing up whining with arguing... The whining coming from a few moncton posters about officiating - in a series where Moncton have hardly been called for anything - has been unreal. Everyone else seems to be watching a fairly clean series where most obvious calls are made with a few iffy (normal) calls as well. Clearly, struggling to win games against the 12th seed who lacked depth BEFORE losing their second line, and who has a defense with nothing but rookies after Hardie, has you guys on edge and grasping at this point. I haven't complained about the calls the Refs have made against Moncton. Its all of the crap they let go against Halifax is what I have been displeased with. Most of the calls made against Moncton were legit ... but Halifax is not being held to the same standard. And I have complained about the suspension assessed to Johnson ... and the lack of a suspension on Meier.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Apr 19, 2015 11:27:39 GMT -4
Laurent Dauphin is better than both of those. Cape Breton with LeBlanc injured probably were about a 12/13th seed. They had a little spell where they picked up but soon dropped back to a team within that range. True about Dauphin and I realized that after I pushed "post" He definitely is better I should have wrote 2 of your top 3 etc. You take 2 out of the top 3 from Halifax for the same amount of games that (Ranger and Boudreault) missed and I think you would have had a higher match up in round 1. Chicoutimi were still better than a 15th seed (Gatineau too) Cape Breton is the only one I'm not sure were all that much better.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 19, 2015 11:31:06 GMT -4
The other thing I would like to see come to an end is all this talk about the 12th seed. If you want to play that card go ahead. Did I think that Chicoutimi was a legitimate 15th seed? No. They had their top 2 players (Ranger and Boudreault out for most of the season) Did anyone consider Gatineau a legitimate 14th seed? No. (They just under achieved their way into 14th spot, but, after the trade dealine were coming on strong at the end of the season prior to putting out #2 BLB) Were Cape Breton after their trades and Olivier Leblanc injured a 13th seed? No. There is parity in this league this year. Rimouski is about the only team I see as a No. 1 and should run the table. One thing that will help them is that they will not meet Quebec in the semi final as Quebec has a team when rolling that could beat them. So, if you want to lean on that 12th seed crutch to explain away a potential 2nd round defeat (too early to say) then go ahead. I think you cheapen what your team did up until now if you do. So not only are we the 12th seed, but the 13th, 14th and 15th seeds are all better than their rankings. So I guess that would make us the 15th seed. I think you're worried that we're cheapening Moncton's accomplishment of getting to the 3rd round by saying they had an easy ride through the 15th and 12th seeds. Sort of like back in 2013 when Halifax had to go through the 16th, 13th and 8th seeds to get to the finals. We didn't care what people said about that back then, just like you shouldn't care now. Sometimes teams have an easier ride in the playoffs, and sometimes they have a tough ride. The 2010 Wildcats had the toughest road to a President's Cup win I've ever seen. It all evens out in the end. We are only the 2nd seed because we were better than everybody in our division in the regular season. A fairly weak division. As I said before ... we sold at Xmas to get here.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Apr 19, 2015 11:53:37 GMT -4
Nope... not what happened. It might help your arguments if you said "I'm pretty sure that..." or "From what I remember...". Instead you tell us what happened even when its wrong and then whine about your fake facts. "If I had to guess"... the aggressor might have been for Moynihan holding him in a headlock (I'm assuming as payback to what Klebanskyj did to him) while the refs tried to separate him. The short punch/swing as they were separating didn't appear to land at all, and Klebanskyj was already bleeding from eating some Moynihan punches earlier in the fight in tight. I saw it happen ... thats what happened ... you obviously didn't see it. Why disagree if you didn't see it ? Klebanskyj had Moynihan in a headlock ... not the other way around ... and why Klebanskyj was given the helmet pull misc. I think that's the difference between a game misconduct (and suspension) and misconduct for that. In a fight it's the gamer, which I'm sure is purely an insurance thing, as it's a more dangerous scenario.
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Post by Reesor on Apr 19, 2015 11:55:14 GMT -4
So not only are we the 12th seed, but the 13th, 14th and 15th seeds are all better than their rankings. So I guess that would make us the 15th seed. I think you're worried that we're cheapening Moncton's accomplishment of getting to the 3rd round by saying they had an easy ride through the 15th and 12th seeds. Sort of like back in 2013 when Halifax had to go through the 16th, 13th and 8th seeds to get to the finals. We didn't care what people said about that back then, just like you shouldn't care now. Sometimes teams have an easier ride in the playoffs, and sometimes they have a tough ride. The 2010 Wildcats had the toughest road to a President's Cup win I've ever seen. It all evens out in the end. We are only the 2nd seed because we were better than everybody in our division in the regular season. A fairly weak division. As I said before ... we sold at Xmas to get here. I guess we're only the 12th seed because we're in a weak division as well. I'm not really sure what we're arguing. Point is that Moncton is the favorite to win the series regardless of league parity or who bought/sold at Christmas. We're going to play the underdog card on occasion... especially with our entire 2nd line out. It shouldn't bother people... it comes with the territory of having a successful season. Halifax fans had to deal with it for the last two seasons. Edit: This post shouldn't be misconstrued as whining. I'm very happy with what we've accomplished with the team we've had this year. If Moncton wins today, that sucks. But they deserved it, and that's hockey.
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Post by oilers4ever on Apr 19, 2015 12:16:26 GMT -4
So not only are we the 12th seed, but the 13th, 14th and 15th seeds are all better than their rankings. So I guess that would make us the 15th seed. I think you're worried that we're cheapening Moncton's accomplishment of getting to the 3rd round by saying they had an easy ride through the 15th and 12th seeds. Sort of like back in 2013 when Halifax had to go through the 16th, 13th and 8th seeds to get to the finals. We didn't care what people said about that back then, just like you shouldn't care now. Sometimes teams have an easier ride in the playoffs, and sometimes they have a tough ride. The 2010 Wildcats had the toughest road to a President's Cup win I've ever seen. It all evens out in the end. We are only the 2nd seed because we were better than everybody in our division in the regular season. A fairly weak division. As I said before ... we sold at Xmas to get here. wouldn't that make you the third seed?
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