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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 20:07:26 GMT -4
Nope ... I have not changed my tune at all ... you just weren't getting it. I could tell by you bringing up the number of PPs that each team had which has nothing to do with it. I'm also a Habs fan but not seeing the same thing. Last year vs the Bruins I did see it that way ... Marchand and Chara could do anything they wanted and get away with it. I see the Mtl/Ott series fairly even ... lots let go ... but fairly equal to both teams so far. I always have a problem with people counting fouls and expecting them to even out.
It is possible for the ref to give you a "break" by not calling everything he sees...yet people still think they are owed a call to go their way.
I don't think you can say Moncton have been unfairly picked on. We have had 4 players injured in this series and not a lot has been said on that. The hit on Fortier which ultimately lead to the instigator penalty was high and I though the guy left his feet. Fortier has been out with what I suspect is a concussion. No penalty for Moncton.Moncton scored the game winning goal on that powerplay which may have prevented us from going up 3-0. You see what you see Steve and I don't see the same thing. Non-calls and calls happen on both teams. To say it is all one-sided is bullshit. There could be a penalty called almost every shift Ehlers plays as he is continually hacked and impeded. Playoff hockey so suck it up.
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Post by mooseinfo on Apr 20, 2015 20:52:36 GMT -4
The content of your posts make it hard to distinguish whether you are talking about one game or the series. In most cases you are generalizing, which makes it seem like a pattern of officiating issues, not just one game. Again, the penalties were tied- it's not like it's a Wildcat parade to the box. Refs do their best to keep the amount of penalties down in the playoffs, which is nothing new and you know as well as I do that they try their best to keep them even- right or wrong. I've been watching this league a hell of a long time, and if there's one thing that's been consistent, it's been inconsistency among officials. That you guys choose now to be vocally pissed off about it is pretty funny. You know what you were getting already- so did Halifax. You aren't comprehending. I'm not complaining about the calls ... its the noncalls. I have no problem having a few calls missed ... it happens ... and usually it evens out over a run of games. But it isn't evening out ... its every game and Halifax gets away with so much stuff ... stuff that Moncton gets called for. You can't go count up the PPs and say "what are you talking about ... PPs are fairly even". It doesn't show up there ... but you'll bring it up again. The Q doesn't keep track of non-calls. So if what you believe is true then tell me why the refs would be favoring Halifax or hating Moncton?
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 21, 2015 7:05:50 GMT -4
You aren't comprehending. I'm not complaining about the calls ... its the noncalls. I have no problem having a few calls missed ... it happens ... and usually it evens out over a run of games. But it isn't evening out ... its every game and Halifax gets away with so much stuff ... stuff that Moncton gets called for. You can't go count up the PPs and say "what are you talking about ... PPs are fairly even". It doesn't show up there ... but you'll bring it up again. The Q doesn't keep track of non-calls. So if what you believe is true then tell me why the refs would be favoring Halifax or hating Moncton? How would I know that ?
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 21, 2015 7:13:03 GMT -4
So if what you believe is true then tell me why the refs would be favoring Halifax or hating Moncton? How would I know that ? Reminds me of the old play by play guy for the Eagles back around a decade ago. I think he moved away to the NWT or something. He was fun to listen to. But he would say the score is 3-2 "for the good guys" Everybody knows that with several offipciating crews and different ways of doing their job that refs could never all agree on who the good guys are...just saying.... Must be a slow news day in the Q if this is still the topic here...
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 21, 2015 7:16:10 GMT -4
I always have a problem with people counting fouls and expecting them to even out.
It is possible for the ref to give you a "break" by not calling everything he sees...yet people still think they are owed a call to go their way.
I don't think you can say Moncton have been unfairly picked on. We have had 4 players injured in this series and not a lot has been said on that. The hit on Fortier which ultimately lead to the instigator penalty was high and I though the guy left his feet. Fortier has been out with what I suspect is a concussion. No penalty for Moncton.Moncton scored the game winning goal on that powerplay which may have prevented us from going up 3-0. You see what you see Steve and I don't see the same thing. Non-calls and calls happen on both teams. To say it is all one-sided is bullshit. There could be a penalty called almost every shift Ehlers plays as he is continually hacked and impeded. Playoff hockey so suck it up. I did not say Moncton is being unfairly picked on ... I have no problem with most of the calls called against Moncton. There have been a few soft calls, but by the letter of the rules they were penalties. People have hard time reading and comprehending. The Fortier hit was clean ... he hit his head on the ice ... unfortunate for him and his team. If you want to complain about a hit that caused injury, look at the hit on Hunter. The hit on Watt was incedental ... he was knocked down by Bower while carrying the puck ... and ran into Tibbo's hip as Tibbo actually tried to get out of the way. I did not see the hit on Gadoury ... haven't heard anybody complain about it ... not even sure what happened. Are you ? Its a physical game ... people get hurt. If it is a result of a negligent incident then a suspension should follow if justified.
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Post by bois on Apr 21, 2015 8:42:30 GMT -4
Reminds me of the old play by play guy for the Eagles back around a decade ago. I think he moved away to the NWT or something. He was fun to listen to. But he would say the score is 3-2 "for the good guys" Everybody knows that with several offipciating crews and different ways of doing their job that refs could never all agree on who the good guys are...just saying.... Must be a slow news day in the Q if this is still the topic here... Paul MacDonald I believe was his name as for reffing I haven't watched much of the series tho I am planning to watch game seven tonight.... but I did tune in at times last night to watch the replay of the game 6 broadcast because of some of the commentary on here..... Garland in particular........ slash was a call.... just because it was one handed didn't take away from the fact he slashed into the hands of the puck carrier and it was not just a little tap...... and he definitely should have been penalized again shortly after when he cross checked Hardie 3-4 times consecutively when Hardie did nothing wrong I am sure there are similar calls and non calls on both sides....
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Post by seαωo|f on Apr 21, 2015 15:03:33 GMT -4
Reminds me of the old play by play guy for the Eagles back around a decade ago. I think he moved away to the NWT or something. He was fun to listen to. But he would say the score is 3-2 "for the good guys" Everybody knows that with several offipciating crews and different ways of doing their job that refs could never all agree on who the good guys are...just saying.... Must be a slow news day in the Q if this is still the topic here... Paul MacDonald I believe was his name I think he's referring to Kenny McNeil.
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Post by Don Draper on Apr 21, 2015 15:13:09 GMT -4
Paul MacDonald I believe was his name I think he's referring to Kenny McNeil. It was Glenn Craig. Kenny replaced Glenn Craig. Paul MacDonald was (is?) the President of the Eagles, I believe.
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Post by seαωo|f on Apr 21, 2015 15:23:17 GMT -4
I think he's referring to Kenny McNeil. It was Glenn Craig. Kenny replaced Glenn Craig. Paul MacDonald was (is?) the President of the Eagles, I believe. When did MacNeil replace Craig? 2005-ish? Craig was my favourite. I remember living in Halifax and booting up the computer to listen to him over John Moore in 2002. And I absolutely recall him almost exclusively referring to the Drakkar as the "bad guys" in the first round of the playoffs. Good times.
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Post by Don Draper on Apr 21, 2015 15:31:36 GMT -4
It was Glenn Craig. Kenny replaced Glenn Craig. Paul MacDonald was (is?) the President of the Eagles, I believe. When did MacNeil replace Craig? 2005-ish? Craig was my favourite. I remember living in Halifax and booting up the computer to listen to him over John Moore in 2002. And I absolutely recall him almost exclusively referring to the Drakkar as the "bad guys" in the first round of the playoffs. Good times. I think it was around 2003... I'm pretty sure Kenny called the Eagles "run" in 2004 I remember listening to that Drakkar series... most of the airtime during stoppages was reserved for Glenn telling his listening audience that he did not, under any circumstances, want to make the trip back to Baie-Comeau again in that series (would've gone back there for Game 6... with a potential Game 7 in CB... this in the days before the 2-3-2 format). I think he was more excited that he didn't have to go back to Baie-Comeau than he was for the actual win when the Eagles won Game 5 of that series in OT.
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Post by bois on Apr 22, 2015 9:10:40 GMT -4
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