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Post by guru on Sept 22, 2015 20:52:41 GMT -4
Agree the league has looked bad. But you also know QMJHL regular season hockey sucks on most nights. NBL is a better product to watch. QMJHL better operated though. It is worth giving it at least one shot, and I hope it works out. Having something like this in the community is good for a community. What? QMJHL players regularly go to the NHL NBL players regularly go on to be substitute teachers What does your point have to do with quality of game-play? You can't honestly find regular season QMJHL exciting?
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Post by jamesnorris on Sept 23, 2015 19:19:43 GMT -4
What? QMJHL players regularly go to the NHL NBL players regularly go on to be substitute teachers What does your point have to do with quality of game-play? You can't honestly find regular season QMJHL exciting? So when Nathan MacKinnon, Jonathan Drouin, and Zach Fucale were in town, it was less exciting than a NBL regular season game? Different strokes I guess
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Post by guru on Sept 23, 2015 20:46:28 GMT -4
What does your point have to do with quality of game-play? You can't honestly find regular season QMJHL exciting? So when Nathan MacKinnon, Jonathan Drouin, and Zach Fucale were in town, it was less exciting than a NBL regular season game? Different strokes I guess Pretty much only those games.
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Post by caperguy on Sept 24, 2015 12:16:24 GMT -4
Of course I hope it does well and will be cheering for the team and franchise. However, I really have doubts for the long-term given the decreased support of the Eagles and lack of disposable income around here to draw a couple thousand people to BOTH Q and NBL games. Maybe because there are less home games that will somehow offset things and draw more (or at least sufficient numbers). Of course there could be basketball fans or more of a draw for some casual fans than the typical attendee of a Q game and not take from the Eagles' revenue.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 24, 2015 13:28:24 GMT -4
Of course I hope it does well and will be cheering for the team and franchise. However, I really have doubts for the long-term given the decreased support of the Eagles and lack of disposable income around here to draw a couple thousand people to BOTH Q and NBL games. Maybe because there are less home games that will somehow offset things and draw more (or at least sufficient numbers). Of course there could be basketball fans or more of a draw for some casual fans than the typical attendee of a Q game and not take from the Eagles' revenue. I look at it like this: Sydney and the CBRM as a whole is full of hockey fans. Eagles are lucky to draw 2500-3000 over a season even with NHL prospects and multiple 1st round talent. There are not a lot of basketball fans around. Some, but nothing when compared to a sport like hockey. This NBL is a semi-professional league that has been nothing but a laughable joke to this point. The Halifax team, which by all rights should be a league power due to market size, may now be the biggest joke of all but Sydney is supposed to break even by year 3? 1500 average seems awful high for a league that can't even declare a league champion under normal circumstances. The fact that a Livingstone is behind it makes it even worse. If they even survive till the end of season 2 i'll be shocked.
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Post by lirette on Sept 24, 2015 14:54:11 GMT -4
Of course I hope it does well and will be cheering for the team and franchise. However, I really have doubts for the long-term given the decreased support of the Eagles and lack of disposable income around here to draw a couple thousand people to BOTH Q and NBL games. Maybe because there are less home games that will somehow offset things and draw more (or at least sufficient numbers). Of course there could be basketball fans or more of a draw for some casual fans than the typical attendee of a Q game and not take from the Eagles' revenue. I look at it like this: Sydney and the CBRM as a whole is full of hockey fans. Eagles are lucky to draw 2500-3000 over a season even with NHL prospects and multiple 1st round talent. There are not a lot of basketball fans around. Some, but nothing when compared to a sport like hockey. This NBL is a semi-professional league that has been nothing but a laughable joke to this point. The Halifax team, which by all rights should be a league power due to market size, may now be the biggest joke of all but Sydney is supposed to break even by year 3? 1500 average seems awful high for a league that can't even declare a league champion under normal circumstances. The fact that a Livingstone is behind it makes it even worse. If they even survive till the end of season 2 i'll be shocked. Even if the league was stable financially the way the rosters rules are its pretty ridiculous. Its run like a fantasy keeper league, you keep 5 guys and the rest go into a redraft the following year. Don't bother getting attached to any players because they'll either not be kept or if they are good they will just leave for Europe since the salaries are terrible. Pretty hard for any rivalries develop when the monthly roster turnover is comparable to a call center in Moncton. There was some decent skill on display here in the games I've watched but the bottomline is in order for me to invest in a sport I need to know im getting something in return. A league that can't even have a legit champion crowned has zero point.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 24, 2015 15:10:56 GMT -4
I look at it like this: Sydney and the CBRM as a whole is full of hockey fans. Eagles are lucky to draw 2500-3000 over a season even with NHL prospects and multiple 1st round talent. There are not a lot of basketball fans around. Some, but nothing when compared to a sport like hockey. This NBL is a semi-professional league that has been nothing but a laughable joke to this point. The Halifax team, which by all rights should be a league power due to market size, may now be the biggest joke of all but Sydney is supposed to break even by year 3? 1500 average seems awful high for a league that can't even declare a league champion under normal circumstances. The fact that a Livingstone is behind it makes it even worse. If they even survive till the end of season 2 i'll be shocked. Even if the league was stable financially the way the rosters rules are its pretty ridiculous. Its run like a fantasy keeper league, you keep 5 guys and the rest go into a redraft the following year. Don't bother getting attached to any players because they'll either not be kept or if they are good they will just leave for Europe since the salaries are terrible. Pretty hard for any rivalries develop when the monthly roster turnover is comparable to a call center in Moncton. There was some decent skill on display here in the games I've watched but the bottomline is in order for me to invest in a sport I need to know im getting something in return. A league that can't even have a legit champion crowned has zero point. I noticed how they say they're reaching out to Jimmy Dorsey as if the CBU basketball program is bringing in a ton of cash or something. Shouldnt a league like be looking at former NCAA stars to fill out rosters rather then former CIS players? I guess you get what you pay for at the end of the day.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Sept 24, 2015 15:24:20 GMT -4
So when Nathan MacKinnon, Jonathan Drouin, and Zach Fucale were in town, it was less exciting than a NBL regular season game? Different strokes I guess Pretty much only those games. How is the NBL regular season better than the Q? In the NBL everyone makes the playoffs. Thrilling.
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Post by guru on Sept 24, 2015 16:31:51 GMT -4
Pretty much only those games. How is the NBL regular season better than the Q? In the NBL everyone makes the playoffs. Thrilling. Not true. I'd say the % of teams that make the NBL playoffs is less than teams that make the playoffs in the QMJHL. Look, the QMJHL used to be a lot of fun to watch, but somewhere along the way, the intensity has been lost, the characters are gone, etc. You have to cherry pick QMJHL regular season games to attend. I do go to every QMJHL playoff game the Mooseheads are in though. QMJHL playoff hockey is still fun.
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Post by guru on Sept 24, 2015 16:32:30 GMT -4
Even if the league was stable financially the way the rosters rules are its pretty ridiculous. Its run like a fantasy keeper league, you keep 5 guys and the rest go into a redraft the following year. Don't bother getting attached to any players because they'll either not be kept or if they are good they will just leave for Europe since the salaries are terrible. Pretty hard for any rivalries develop when the monthly roster turnover is comparable to a call center in Moncton. There was some decent skill on display here in the games I've watched but the bottomline is in order for me to invest in a sport I need to know im getting something in return. A league that can't even have a legit champion crowned has zero point. I noticed how they say they're reaching out to Jimmy Dorsey as if the CBU basketball program is bringing in a ton of cash or something. Shouldnt a league like be looking at former NCAA stars to fill out rosters rather then former CIS players? I guess you get what you pay for at the end of the day. Mostly NCAA guys.
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Post by guru on Sept 24, 2015 16:35:29 GMT -4
Of course I hope it does well and will be cheering for the team and franchise. However, I really have doubts for the long-term given the decreased support of the Eagles and lack of disposable income around here to draw a couple thousand people to BOTH Q and NBL games. Maybe because there are less home games that will somehow offset things and draw more (or at least sufficient numbers). Of course there could be basketball fans or more of a draw for some casual fans than the typical attendee of a Q game and not take from the Eagles' revenue. I look at it like this: Sydney and the CBRM as a whole is full of hockey fans. Eagles are lucky to draw 2500-3000 over a season even with NHL prospects and multiple 1st round talent. There are not a lot of basketball fans around. Some, but nothing when compared to a sport like hockey. This NBL is a semi-professional league that has been nothing but a laughable joke to this point. The Halifax team, which by all rights should be a league power due to market size, may now be the biggest joke of all but Sydney is supposed to break even by year 3? 1500 average seems awful high for a league that can't even declare a league champion under normal circumstances. The fact that a Livingstone is behind it makes it even worse. If they even survive till the end of season 2 i'll be shocked. I agree with you. Cape Breton seems to be a hockey town and like you said, the Eagles aren't kicking ass at the gate. Where you will perhaps see some fans at the NBL games will be international students. Basketball is a global sport, but there is no way a dude from Saudi is going to be hitting up the Eagles games! So yeah, an NBL could have trouble in Sydney, but I hope I'm wrong.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 24, 2015 17:21:45 GMT -4
I look at it like this: Sydney and the CBRM as a whole is full of hockey fans. Eagles are lucky to draw 2500-3000 over a season even with NHL prospects and multiple 1st round talent. There are not a lot of basketball fans around. Some, but nothing when compared to a sport like hockey. This NBL is a semi-professional league that has been nothing but a laughable joke to this point. The Halifax team, which by all rights should be a league power due to market size, may now be the biggest joke of all but Sydney is supposed to break even by year 3? 1500 average seems awful high for a league that can't even declare a league champion under normal circumstances. The fact that a Livingstone is behind it makes it even worse. If they even survive till the end of season 2 i'll be shocked. I agree with you. Cape Breton seems to be a hockey town and like you said, the Eagles aren't kicking ass at the gate. Where you will perhaps see some fans at the NBL games will be international students. Basketball is a global sport, but there is no way a dude from Saudi is going to be hitting up the Eagles games! So yeah, an NBL could have trouble in Sydney, but I hope I'm wrong. That's a good point. Not that our international population is huge but it's much higher then it was even 10 or 15 years ago and that's at least 1 demographic to draw from even if most are students with high costs of tuition and board.
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Post by juliansteed on Sept 24, 2015 17:41:31 GMT -4
Even if the league was stable financially the way the rosters rules are its pretty ridiculous. Its run like a fantasy keeper league, you keep 5 guys and the rest go into a redraft the following year. Don't bother getting attached to any players because they'll either not be kept or if they are good they will just leave for Europe since the salaries are terrible. Pretty hard for any rivalries develop when the monthly roster turnover is comparable to a call center in Moncton. There was some decent skill on display here in the games I've watched but the bottomline is in order for me to invest in a sport I need to know im getting something in return. A league that can't even have a legit champion crowned has zero point. I noticed how they say they're reaching out to Jimmy Dorsey as if the CBU basketball program is bringing in a ton of cash or something. Shouldnt a league like be looking at former NCAA stars to fill out rosters rather then former CIS players? I guess you get what you pay for at the end of the day. They probably figure a token local guy will help sell the product, at least in the beginning. I think a lot of the teams have used that strategy. The local guy usually just comes off the bench now and then but can at least hold his own.
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Post by justathought on Sept 24, 2015 22:54:43 GMT -4
I'm surprised they found people willing to invest in this team and this league after the unbelievable mess in the League Finals! The name, the "Sydney Smelts" comes to mind but I wish them good luck.
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Post by lirette on Sept 24, 2015 23:16:05 GMT -4
How is the NBL regular season better than the Q? In the NBL everyone makes the playoffs. Thrilling. Not true. I'd say the % of teams that make the NBL playoffs is less than teams that make the playoffs in the QMJHL. Look, the QMJHL used to be a lot of fun to watch, but somewhere along the way, the intensity has been lost, the characters are gone, etc. You have to cherry pick QMJHL regular season games to attend. I do go to every QMJHL playoff game the Mooseheads are in though. QMJHL playoff hockey is still fun. What do you mean not true? Last year there were 8 teams in the league, all 8 teams made the playoffs, what math are you doing that results in 100% being less than the 2 out of 16 teams that miss the Q playoffs? A league that cannot even manage to have a final game played will never get an ounce a credibility from me. I am a season ticket holder in Moncton and out of 34 home regular season games plus a terrific playoffs i can count maybe 2 games that I walked away from disappointed last season in regards to getting my moneys worth, win or loss.
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