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Post by hockeybuff on Sept 11, 2015 9:44:41 GMT -4
Xavier Parent could come into the mix too as an underage exceptional player. I doubt he gets exceptional status. He is undersized and loses battles at the midget AAA level. He doesn't dominate. He is very talented but needs to add some strength that comes with maturity.
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Post by jamesnorris on Dec 21, 2015 19:46:44 GMT -4
updating this. let me know if I bug something up.
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Post by sharrow on Dec 23, 2015 14:09:49 GMT -4
U no what, if Dumont can obtain a couple of capable D-men I like his & Cape Breton chances for a super finish to the season.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 23, 2015 14:45:51 GMT -4
U no what, if Dumont can obtain a couple of capable D-men I like his & Cape Breton chances for a super finish to the season. Define super finish. If Dumont is the coach I put the over/under for playoff wins at 6.5. Even with more trades.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Dec 23, 2015 14:48:50 GMT -4
The way this guy coaches and handles the kids, the possibilities are endless.Wouldn't bet on a positive outcome.
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Post by daveyjones on Dec 23, 2015 15:11:35 GMT -4
I think there should be at least a little more positivity on the screaming eagles part. They played all season long with 3-4 first line guys and the rest of the team aside from Dubois, the Russians and Bishop I think every other player is 3rd line at best.
They added Joly and only just recently started playing with all three 20yo spots occupied and almost instantly that addition made a huge difference.They swept that 3 game roadie in Quebec and Joly had an impact in every game except one since hes came here. Goes to show you what you miss riding half the year without a 20 spot you thot you were going to get with Ranger.
Get your top line back after the world juniors and add another forward and a defense man and then judge your team down the road based on that line up. Not that awful roster they had up until now without Ranger or Bowers showing.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 23, 2015 15:19:21 GMT -4
I think there should be at least a little more positivity on the screaming eagles part. They played all season long with 3-4 first line guys and the rest of the team aside from Dubois, the Russians and Bishop I think every other player is 3rd line at best. They added Joly and only just recently started playing with all three 20yo spots occupied and almost instantly that addition made a huge difference.They swept that 3 game roadie in Quebec and Joly had an impact in every game except one since hes came here. Goes to show you what you miss riding half the year without a 20 spot you thot you were going to get with Ranger. Get your top line back after the world juniors and add another forward and a defense man and then judge your team down the road based on that line up. Not that awful roster they had up until now without Ranger or Bowers showing. This is the season the team has been building too for multiple seasons and after 37 games sit 19-18. The fact the entire fan case has not abandoned the organization is positive in itself. Trading future high picks for expiring assets isn't something to be positive about. .500 teams with all their best players leaving after the season shouldn't be buying big they should be doing the opposite and planning for the future. 4th overall picks don't change the course for contenders. Even if he showed he'd be a bottom 6 forward. Ranger was placed with Joly a month ago or so now. Lets revisit in May and see who should have been positive.
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Post by EagleFan2009 on Dec 23, 2015 15:51:32 GMT -4
I think there should be at least a little more positivity on the screaming eagles part. They played all season long with 3-4 first line guys and the rest of the team aside from Dubois, the Russians and Bishop I think every other player is 3rd line at best. They added Joly and only just recently started playing with all three 20yo spots occupied and almost instantly that addition made a huge difference.They swept that 3 game roadie in Quebec and Joly had an impact in every game except one since hes came here. Goes to show you what you miss riding half the year without a 20 spot you thot you were going to get with Ranger. Get your top line back after the world juniors and add another forward and a defense man and then judge your team down the road based on that line up. Not that awful roster they had up until now without Ranger or Bowers showing. This is the season the team has been building too for multiple seasons and after 37 games sit 19-18. The fact the entire fan case has not abandoned the organization is positive in itself. Trading future high picks for expiring assets isn't something to be positive about. .500 teams with all their best players leaving after the season shouldn't be buying big they should be doing the opposite and planning for the future. 4th overall picks don't change the course for contenders. Even if he showed he'd be a bottom 6 forward. Ranger was placed with Joly a month ago or so now. Lets revisit in May and see who should have been positive. At the end of the day it's a business. If we empty the cupboards I truly believe this team won't last through another 3-4 year rebuild. The team will be moved. What Mario did to this team cannot happen again. That being said, I do think we will see a few moves. I think I'll also predict a second round exit, dumont not getting a new contract, and Dubois traded at the draft for 3 pieces. Hoyt is a kid who will see a huge increase in minutes next year. The team will be built around him and jessimen.
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Post by daveyjones on Dec 23, 2015 16:08:45 GMT -4
I think there should be at least a little more positivity on the screaming eagles part. They played all season long with 3-4 first line guys and the rest of the team aside from Dubois, the Russians and Bishop I think every other player is 3rd line at best. They added Joly and only just recently started playing with all three 20yo spots occupied and almost instantly that addition made a huge difference.They swept that 3 game roadie in Quebec and Joly had an impact in every game except one since hes came here. Goes to show you what you miss riding half the year without a 20 spot you thot you were going to get with Ranger. Get your top line back after the world juniors and add another forward and a defense man and then judge your team down the road based on that line up. Not that awful roster they had up until now without Ranger or Bowers showing. Trading future high picks for expiring assets isn't something to be positive about. .500 teams with all their best players leaving after the season shouldn't be buying big they should be doing the opposite and planning for the future. 4th overall picks don't change the course for contenders. Even if he showed he'd be a bottom 6 forward. Ranger was placed with Joly a month ago or so now. They shouldn't be buying but they are. Idiot move but its what's happening and the wagons there so why not hop on it and play devils advocate? Since Joly came to town the Eagles have lost 1 game before their top line left and Bishop got hurt. I think if that 20 year old spot alone is occupied all season long (which it was planned to be) then the record sits a hell of a lot better than 19-18. And maybe you're then in a spot to say yeah lets load up and go for it. So since buying now looks inevitable I think Joly is that "positive". A debatable CHL best first line along side a solid 2nd line who knows...Maybe those 6.5 playoff wins jet up near 18 by the time March rolls around. Wishful I know.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Dec 23, 2015 16:12:26 GMT -4
with the roster we now have,I don't see anything positive beyond maybe a first round win. Many reasons for that assumption, poor coaching, poor leadership,way too many goals against,way too many penalties. Not trying to be negative here, just factual. Any team, not omly the Eagles, with that set of numbers,has little or no chance of success.No need to commnet any further on how I feel this organization is run, have already done that.lets see what Dumont does, he has sort of backed himself into a corner here.I don't believe there is a middle of the road here, its either all in or sell.
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Post by cb67 on Dec 23, 2015 16:17:49 GMT -4
What would some people do if they were GM right now?
Shop the Russians? Dubois? Bishop ?
Unload completely or just partially?
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Post by hal on Dec 23, 2015 16:22:52 GMT -4
This Team will survive ........even a rebuild .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 23, 2015 16:24:28 GMT -4
Trading future high picks for expiring assets isn't something to be positive about. .500 teams with all their best players leaving after the season shouldn't be buying big they should be doing the opposite and planning for the future. 4th overall picks don't change the course for contenders. Even if he showed he'd be a bottom 6 forward. Ranger was placed with Joly a month ago or so now. They shouldn't be buying but they are. Idiot move but its what's happening and the wagons there so why not hop on it and play devils advocate? Since Joly came to town the Eagles have lost 1 game before their top line left and Bishop got hurt. I think if that 20 year old spot alone is occupied all season long (which it was planned to be) then the record sits a hell of a lot better than 19-18. And maybe you're then in a spot to say yeah lets load up and go for it. So since buying now looks inevitable I think Joly is that "positive". A debatable CHL best first line along side a solid 2nd line who knows...Maybe those 6.5 playoff wins jet up near 18 by the time March rolls around. Wishful I know. It's frustrating that a team led by 2 top 5 picks (Bishop, Dubois) 2 top Euros (Svechnikov, Lazarev) and an entire acquired top 5 on D (Leveille, Bishop, Gosselin, MacIntyre, Deschamps) and an overage G (Belanger) still needs a Joly brought in at the expense of a 2017 1st, 2016 2nd, and young Dman. And STILL needs more brought in to try and win. At what point do you stop burning assets for this year? Even with players like Fournier and MacSween brought in to help the depth, we STILL need more brought in. It honestly gets to the point that it's downright laughable. We have been through how many goaltenders in 2 1/2 seasons...and guess what people STILL see as a big need...yep...a goaltender. I like being the devils advocate as well as anyone...but this thing is getting to the point that what season tickets holders are left will be done with supporting the product...because after sitting through 2010-2011, 11-12, 12-13...being told 13-14 was going to see improvement...and 14-15 was going to start seeing a return on that investment put in starting in 10-11....this team is no closer to being a top team then it was when Durocher left. This is the 6th season of 'just wait until next year' and this IS that next year. If after all that building you're 1 missing 20 from being a .500 team people should be demanding change. All I see is people asking for more trades. More youth tossed aside. The chance is still there to remove Dumont and do it the right way even now. So much could have been undone in this trade period but we're letting him dig the hole deeper just like Durocher. We have learned nothing from our own history.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 23, 2015 16:29:04 GMT -4
This Team will survive ........even a rebuild . I used to believe that. I don't any more. Lots of long term season ticket holders getting sick of the yearly spin and no pay off on their investment into the team. This was supposed to be a big year and there was no more excitement then any other year. Add in the employment numbers, poverty, national economy....and there's not a lot of room for error for a horribly run hockey team very dependent on its bottom line. I can easily see our owners being the first of the current Maritime teams to throw in the towel. You yourself have nothing good to say about them. As that season ticket holder number goes from almost 2000 to 1800 to 1650 to 1500 it's at now what will things look like as it hits 1000 in 2 or 3 years?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 23, 2015 16:33:19 GMT -4
What would some people do if they were GM right now? Shop the Russians? Dubois? Bishop ? Unload completely or just partially? Right now? Impossible to say without knowing the Joly trade details. Of course everyone is going to buy after that trade because there's nothing to gain by being bad next year. Exactly what our rebuild was supposed to avoid. If our 2017 1st comes back for a Chicoutimi pick for Ranger then it's a no brainer. If I'm GM a month ago I sell everything expiring and use Dubois as the big trade chip next Xmas.
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