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Post by Score on Sept 25, 2018 14:01:26 GMT -4
McCarron on waivers.....hopefully some team picks him up. Another bust of a pick
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 26, 2018 12:38:51 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 26, 2018 12:39:34 GMT -4
McCarron on waivers.....hopefully some team picks him up. Another bust of a pick No harm in having him in the NHL, he's still relatively young and is a good player at that level. I wish they play him on the wing instead of center.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 10:49:53 GMT -4
McCarron on waivers.....hopefully some team picks him up. Another bust of a pick He can’t skate. Wasted first round pick.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Sept 27, 2018 11:04:56 GMT -4
McCarron on waivers.....hopefully some team picks him up. Another bust of a pick He can’t skate. Wasted first round pick. A draft pick influenced too much by Bergevin who wanted to copy the Boston model of the time.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 27, 2018 11:08:07 GMT -4
He can’t skate. Wasted first round pick. A draft pick influenced too much by Bergevin who wanted to copy the Boston model of the time. I think McCarron was drafted the year Boston won the cup. It likely impacted the Tinordi pick the year before(I believe).
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Post by moosefan1994 on Sept 27, 2018 11:14:40 GMT -4
A draft pick influenced too much by Bergevin who wanted to copy the Boston model of the time. I think McCarron was drafted the year Boston won the cup. It likely impacted the Tinordi pick the year before(I believe). McCarron was 2013, Tinordi was 2010, Boston won the Cup in 2011 but they were the big , bad Bruins from 2009 to 2015 when Lucic was traded and Chara declined. They almost won the Cup in 2013 so there is a very strong case for the McCarron pick being influenced by that.
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Post by scotiahockey on Sept 27, 2018 21:10:26 GMT -4
I think they really need to look at their development model here because for the last 10 years, they’ve really produced nothing as far as players go through the draft. You don’t whiff on this many picks, without it being the fact you just can’t develop any talent. It’s not like they’re going off the board with their picks, they just never develop. The best guys they’ve drafted in the 1st round in the last 10 years are Galchenyuk (who they didn’t properly develop IMO) and Sergachyev who they traded. There’s something wrong there, maybe it’s scouting, maybe it’s drafting but I think after this large of a sample size, it’s something they do within the organization when developing these kids.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 22:28:06 GMT -4
In fairness to the Habs it was a pretty shitty draft that year.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2018 22:38:28 GMT -4
My favourite year is 2006...round 1 David Fischer...Claude Giroux goes 2 picks later...Round 2 Ben Maxwell...Milan Lucic goes next. Round 3 Ryan White...Brad Marchand goes about 5 pucks later.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 28, 2018 7:48:11 GMT -4
Most of the Habs misses in the draft, from what I can see, are related to two things...1-looking for a specific position instead of BPA(Fischer-Giroux) or 2-looking to add size to compete with Boston or whoever(McCarron Tinordi etc). Also, don't forget that picks in the 20-30 range only have a 50% chance of being full time NHLers.
Timmins has had some big misses in early rounds, but also some big hits later on...Gallagher Hudon Evans Primeau Mete. Hopefully the current crop(mostly 2016-2018) has a lot more hits than misses, having extra picks is a big plus.
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Post by Joe Rogan on Sept 28, 2018 8:13:58 GMT -4
Most of the Habs misses in the draft, from what I can see, are related to two things...1-looking for a specific position instead of BPA(Fischer-Giroux) or 2-looking to add size to compete with Boston or whoever(McCarron Tinordi etc). Also, don't forget that picks in the 20-30 range only have a 50% chance of being full time NHLers. Timmins has had some big misses in early rounds, but also some big hits later on...Gallagher Hudon Evans Primeau Mete. Hopefully the current crop(mostly 2016-2018) has a lot more hits than misses, having extra picks is a big plus. None of those are big hits other than Gallagher.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 28, 2018 8:16:04 GMT -4
Most of the Habs misses in the draft, from what I can see, are related to two things...1-looking for a specific position instead of BPA(Fischer-Giroux) or 2-looking to add size to compete with Boston or whoever(McCarron Tinordi etc). Also, don't forget that picks in the 20-30 range only have a 50% chance of being full time NHLers. Timmins has had some big misses in early rounds, but also some big hits later on...Gallagher Hudon Evans Primeau Mete. Hopefully the current crop(mostly 2016-2018) has a lot more hits than misses, having extra picks is a big plus. None of those are big hits other than Gallagher. They are 19, 20 and 21 and have far surpassed expectations.
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Post by Joe Rogan on Sept 28, 2018 8:25:22 GMT -4
None of those are big hits other than Gallagher. They are 19, 20 and 21 and have far surpassed expectations. Hudon is 25 and has barely contributed at the NHL level. Mete hasn’t proven he can be a top 6 dman in the NHL full time yet and the rest are prospects.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 28, 2018 8:34:37 GMT -4
They are 19, 20 and 21 and have far surpassed expectations. Hudon is 25 and has barely contributed at the NHL level. Mete hasn’t proven he can be a top 6 dman in the NHL full time yet and the rest are prospects. Hudon is 24 and he put up 30 points in 72 games playing a bottom 6 role as a rookie. I'm sure that's well ahead of the curve for a 5th rounder, where about 10 or 15% become regular NHLers. Again, Mete is 20 and he cracked the NHL at 19 and did not look out of place, he was a regular except for when he went to the U20 and I think he missed a few games due to injury. That would count as proving he can be a top 6 NHL d-man. #factsmatter
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