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Post by scotiahockey on Nov 6, 2018 21:55:34 GMT -4
I'm not going to the media with it no matter the team. And it would never get back to national media from the friends I show it to so no worries about TSN coming after me TMZ style for a drunken Carey Price rant. Word just doesn't get out that often or our sports news would be nothing but "look who said something today" kind of crap like this. There are way more connected people then us with videos and audio of people that never see the light of day because they don't go looking for the attention from it. But they do in the US ... first to post something on social media is some great mantle to carry around I guess. Where this happened in the US I'm surprised that you are a surprised that this was released. Thinking of the videos and audio recordings that have come out over the last few years regarding athletes and celebrities. I'm thinking of the football player punching his girlfriend in the elevator ... Mel Gibson, David Hasselhoef, Alec Baldwin ... all for media sensationalism. There’s absolutely 0 reason for the cab drive to release this information, it’s a coward move. If it was you and your buddies ripping your boss in the Uber, then it never gets released. This happens everyday, every team does it but of course for whatever reason, the Senators are the team that gets caught because that’s how things go for them lately. The team became aware of this before their game on against Tampa, so seems to me like it’s possible the guy wanted something from them to keep it private... or it just got released and they happened to stumble across it before it blew up. You have to think this ruins Martin Raymond’s shot at ever getting hired on another staff again... who could ever suggest hiring him without looking a little bit like a fool, after it’s clear Ottawa players don’t think he’s qualified to do the job he’s in. The thing that bothers me is that the team didn’t send one player out to the media involved in this answer questions... they sent out guys who aren’t involved at all. They had an opportunity to tackle this head on today and really dropped the ball. The silver lining in all this is that nothing said crossed the line, every player in the NHL does this, every coach in the NHL does this. They’re just lucky they didn’t say anything that could have really ruined their life or didn’t have anyone in the car that shouldn’t have been there (young NHLers out on the town, no doubt there’s some women floating around that some significant others don’t know about), the situation could have been a hell of a lot worse for everyone involved. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2018 22:33:32 GMT -4
It's not in public. It's in an Uber. It's a huge privacy violation. These guys live half their lives together on the road as a group so of course there's going to be some bitching about coaches/other players after a meal and a couple drinks. We're creating a world where we're starting to abuse the technology we're being given and creating an environment none of us should want to live in where you literally can't say anything about anyone without risking it becoming public. Recording that and putting it on youtube is a pretty low blow. Its not a privacy violation. They got into this man's car and started talking. Its no different than having a dashcam record you running through a red light ... and used as evidence against you. You have no expectation of privacy when you get into somebody else's car and go out in public. Everything is being recorded in the US. Is it low to release it ... maybe ... for sure if you are a Sens fan. But as a Leafs fan and Domi and Drouin and Price and a few other Habs got into a cab and were recorded saying something similar, and that video fell into your hands; would you release it to somebody ... show it to your friends ? Edit: Forgot who I was responding to. It would be a privacy violation here in Moncton. You can not record conversation without people being aware that they are recorded. Which is why you here that message that the call may be recorded for customer service purposes when you call a lot of companies. That is the reason that cctv systems in Canada are not equipped to record sound. Then there is the whole debate about expectation of privacy vs public area. But this happened in another country with really diverse laws based on geography. i have read some analysis saying that if one person in the car is aware that the audio is being recorded then it is OK in Arizona. I guess the Uber driver counts as the one...which seems silly. Ottawa should be more concerned why the young men in the car feel like the coaches don't coach? They mock the PP and PK and the fact that the coaches don't give them direction...That is the real issue. |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 7, 2018 8:57:26 GMT -4
There are 8 people in the car here ... there is no expectation of privacy. Even though you don't expect one of your teammates to rat you out to management there is still a possibility that could occur.
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Post by bois on Nov 7, 2018 9:30:07 GMT -4
The fact that the CEO of Uber came out and said the recording should never have happened tells me that the driver is 100% in the wrong
the fact that the players involved are basically only allowed to publically say sorry to Martin raymond but not comment on anything else tells me legal repercussions are being pursued
as usual it's not a black and white scenario as you perceive it to be Steve
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Post by jimmy on Nov 7, 2018 11:04:23 GMT -4
The fact that the CEO of Uber came out and said the recording should never have happened tells me that the driver is 100% in the wrong the fact that the players involved are basically only allowed to publically say sorry to Martin raymond but not comment on anything else tells me legal repercussions are being pursued as usual it's not a black and white scenario as you perceive it to be Steve Kind of a frivolous lawsuit IMO ... while the video was embarrassing to the players and organization, not sure what real physical or financial harm would come from it ... not that I am a lawyer. Bottom line, we have all said things to co-workers or friends about our colleagues/bosses that would be embarrassing if they found out about it ... they didn't do anything wrong per se ... but they also can't unsay what was said. Kind of like as if you were talking about someone and they turned out to be standing around the corner in ear shot the whole time ... it is awkward ... no way around it. It is as if the Sens organization is walking around with a "kick me" sign on their back lately ... |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 7, 2018 16:41:13 GMT -4
The fact that the CEO of Uber came out and said the recording should never have happened tells me that the driver is 100% in the wrong the fact that the players involved are basically only allowed to publically say sorry to Martin raymond but not comment on anything else tells me legal repercussions are being pursued as usual it's not a black and white scenario as you perceive it to be Steve I'm not defending the driver ... he did what he did ... which is typical for the US and this social media age. I'm not surprised it was released by this guy. But it his car if it is Uber and therefore also his recording. It doesn't belong to Uber. Anything recorded in a vehicle by the owner's equipment belongs to the driver. If Uber owned the vehicle it would be their's but they'd have to have the driver's consent to access it and release it. Uber doesn't own vehicles for the most part (except for autonomous vehicles they are testing) so I have to assume that the vehicle belongs to the driver. I deal with data and recordings in vehicles daily. In fact I teach it (in the US and Canada). It all belongs to the driver and the vehicle owner. Uber might have a policy but that policy doesn't hold water in court unless they own the vehicle. "The Recording should have never happened" ... that is bullshit. Cabs, Ubers and buses all have dashcams that record the view ahead and record the interior of the vehicle. They are there to protect the driver when a dispute or assault occurs. Nobody is going to get sued here. The players said what they said and have to live with it and what comes from it. The fact that it was recorded without them knowing it means they are idiots ... we are all being recorded in cabs and Ubers and buses ... get use to it. I was in a cab last week in Vancouver and there were signs inside the cab saying that recording devices were active. |
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Post by hfxfan09 on Nov 8, 2018 23:28:04 GMT -4
Fans are fuming, Sens are fuming you ask why...because no one has any idea what goaltender interference is anymore according to the idiot officials and NHL our goaltender Tripped their guy didn't look that way to me, and it looked to me like right before their 4th goal there should have been a penalty. I know they lost a challenge to but theirs was clearer.
Yes I'm mad, because I'm getting so sick of pathetic officiating why not hire guys who have a clue, there ruining the good game of hockey!
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Post by hfxfan09 on Nov 12, 2018 20:01:43 GMT -4
After being on at tear in the AHL in Belville the Sens have called up Drake Batherson and they don't play again till Thursday; I fear for Belville because the kid may not be going back.
The future is so bright in Ottawa, if they just had a coach/GM who had a clue but the kids are doing okay Chabot is coming into his own, Lajoie, Tkachuck, their giving Batherson a chance.
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Post by jordo999 on Nov 15, 2018 23:36:28 GMT -4
Batherson gets the game-winner in his 1st NHL game. He's also dominating the AHL. I would not be surprised if he sticks with the team for the whole season after they make a couple more trades in the new year.
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Post by hfxfan09 on Nov 16, 2018 8:18:37 GMT -4
I don't think Batherson is going back he was a stud in Junior and I know the game is different in the NHL he is leading rookie scorer in the AHL.
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Post by eagleeye on Nov 17, 2018 23:56:03 GMT -4
was Shane Bowers drafted before Drake Batherson by Ottawa .
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Nov 18, 2018 0:09:04 GMT -4
was Shane Bowers drafted before Drake Batherson by Ottawa . Yes, bowers was a first rounder |
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Post by hfxfan09 on Nov 29, 2018 20:28:04 GMT -4
Me thinks Batherson isn't going back to Beleville as he plays in his 8th NHL game tonight; 2 more games the 1st year of his entry level contract kicks in.
Neat stat
Brady Tkachuk 9 Goals
Colin White 7 Goals
Max Lajoie 2 Goals and then you add in young Drake Batherson who already has 2 goals in 7 NHL games, and Thomas Chabot who is now carrying Karlsson's load.
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Post by MikeC on Nov 29, 2018 20:44:40 GMT -4
Me thinks Batherson isn't going back to Beleville as he plays in his 8th NHL game tonight; 2 more games the 1st year of his entry level contract kicks in. Batherson is 20. The first year of his contract kicks in this year no matter where he plays. |
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Post by hal on Nov 29, 2018 22:44:39 GMT -4
Bowers belongs to Colorado now as part of the Duchene Deal .
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