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Post by SteveUL on Feb 6, 2019 12:36:00 GMT -4
suspensions are out...actually really lenient i think...wont affect the playoffs except for maybe 2 players....there should be some subsequent suspensions...but if this is it then Phil Currie showed his gutlessness and didnt address the real issue here...around 40 games in total 17 players and coaches!! These suspensions are automatic I believe is what they indicated. More is probably still coming.
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Post by jimmy on Feb 6, 2019 12:51:12 GMT -4
suspensions are out...actually really lenient i think...wont affect the playoffs except for maybe 2 players....there should be some subsequent suspensions...but if this is it then Phil Currie showed his gutlessness and didnt address the real issue here...around 40 games in total 17 players and coaches!! These suspensions are automatic I believe is what they indicated. More is probably still coming. Yes I just heard Currie on the radio at noon. These are just the automatic sanctions for on ice actions / penalties assessed - they are continuing to investigate the "soft" stuff alleged to be the root cause and expect to rule within a week.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 6, 2019 13:49:46 GMT -4
I figure there will be other stuff in the videos that the refs did not catch.
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Feb 6, 2019 13:53:20 GMT -4
suspensions are out...actually really lenient i think...wont affect the playoffs except for maybe 2 players....there should be some subsequent suspensions...but if this is it then Phil Currie showed his gutlessness and didnt address the real issue here...around 40 games in total 17 players and coaches!! It’s been said 5 players and 3 coaches are still under investigation
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Post by bigtimefan on Feb 6, 2019 13:58:52 GMT -4
it does mention that studnicka only got 2 games and is not under further investigation...i totally understand what was done to him is wrong but match penalty for spear, 3rd man in and a fighting major should have been assessed...was leniency given because of what was said to him...also notice Lane cormier got off scott free for automatic suspensions along with Maaskant who you can see on video engaged in a fight...maybe phil Currie is tired this week from dealing with a drunken smu football recruit and a abuse complaint towards a stfx womens bball coach!!!
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 6, 2019 14:01:49 GMT -4
it does mention that studnicka only got 2 games and is not under further investigation...i totally understand what was done to him is wrong but match penalty for spear, 3rd man in and a fighting major should have been assessed...was leniency given because of what was said to him...also notice Lane cormier got off scott free for automatic suspensions along with Maaskant who you can see on video engaged in a fight...maybe phil Currie is tired this week from dealing with a drunken smu football recruit and a abuse complaint towards a stfx womens bball coach!!! Maybe the Cormier thing and Maaksant thing was not seen by the refs and will be part of the supplemental discipline from the video?
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Post by scotiahockey on Feb 6, 2019 14:04:30 GMT -4
it does mention that studnicka only got 2 games and is not under further investigation...i totally understand what was done to him is wrong but match penalty for spear, 3rd man in and a fighting major should have been assessed...was leniency given because of what was said to him...also notice Lane cormier got off scott free for automatic suspensions along with Maaskant who you can see on video engaged in a fight...maybe phil Currie is tired this week from dealing with a drunken smu football recruit and a abuse complaint towards a stfx womens bball coach!!! Maybe the Cormier thing and Maaksant thing was not seen by the refs and will be part of the supplemental discipline from the video? Maaskant got off I think because Spears got an instigator. Generally when one player gets an instigator the other player doesn’t get suspended. Whether Maaskant deserves to get off is another question but I’m pretty sure that’s why.
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Post by SteveUL on Feb 7, 2019 9:36:52 GMT -4
Okay ... I'm confused by this whole incident. Early reports indicated that something was said to a "sexual assault survivor" which turned out to be Studnicka. Now this morning I hear that somebody called him a "rapist" (CTV news). I don't know the back story that goes along with this so I may be completely misunderstanding the whole thing, but when does somebody being called a rapist also be called a sexual assault survivor. I'm not suggesting Studnicka is a rapist nor am I suggesting that he isn't a sexual assault survivor ... just trying to understand the confusion.
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Post by scotiahockey on Feb 7, 2019 10:36:37 GMT -4
Okay ... I'm confused by this whole incident. Early reports indicated that something was said to a "sexual assault survivor" which turned out to be Studnicka. Now this morning I hear that somebody called him a "rapist" (CTV news). I don't know the back story that goes along with this so I may be completely misunderstanding the whole thing, but when does somebody being called a rapist also be called a sexual assault survivor. I'm not suggesting Studnicka is a rapist nor am I suggesting that he isn't a sexual assault survivor ... just trying to understand the confusion. It was never Studnicka that was being called the sexual assault survivor. It was supposedly players chirping him for over an incident that occurred to one of his family members on the Acadia campus a few years back. Now maybe that’s changed and I’m not going to speculate on it all but as I understood it from the beginning, it was a relative of his that was being referenced in the chirps. The being called a rapist part would be in reference to that family member I would suspect, a way of trying to get under his skin about the whole situation, despite the fact it was well over the line.
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Post by SteveUL on Feb 7, 2019 10:53:23 GMT -4
Okay ... I'm confused by this whole incident. Early reports indicated that something was said to a "sexual assault survivor" which turned out to be Studnicka. Now this morning I hear that somebody called him a "rapist" (CTV news). I don't know the back story that goes along with this so I may be completely misunderstanding the whole thing, but when does somebody being called a rapist also be called a sexual assault survivor. I'm not suggesting Studnicka is a rapist nor am I suggesting that he isn't a sexual assault survivor ... just trying to understand the confusion. It was never Studnicka that was being called the sexual assault survivor. It was supposedly players chirping him for over an incident that occurred to one of his family members on the Acadia campus a few years back. Now maybe that’s changed and I’m not going to speculate on it all but as I understood it from the beginning, it was a relative of his that was being referenced in the chirps. The being called a rapist part would be in reference to that family member I would suspect, a way of trying to get under his skin about the whole situation, despite the fact it was well over the line. Since this is public record I don't mind talking about it. Windsor Spitfires had an incident in 2013 in which Ben Johnson was accused of Rape of a 16 year old in a bar. Studnicka tweeted something opposing support for Johnson on a Facebook page. That's the only tie I can see to the incident. Studnicka played for Windsor that year and was then traded to Ottawa before the next season. Perhaps it was a family member of his involved, but there is a publication ban on the victim's name so that info is not available. windsorstar.com/news/local-news/ben-johnsons-alleged-rape-victim-unable-to-stand-keep-eyes-open-trial-hearsSo with all that I don't understand why anybody would call him a rapist, which is what they are reporting on CTV News today. Just trying to understand the story.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Feb 7, 2019 10:55:52 GMT -4
Okay ... I'm confused by this whole incident. Early reports indicated that something was said to a "sexual assault survivor" which turned out to be Studnicka. Now this morning I hear that somebody called him a "rapist" (CTV news). I don't know the back story that goes along with this so I may be completely misunderstanding the whole thing, but when does somebody being called a rapist also be called a sexual assault survivor. I'm not suggesting Studnicka is a rapist nor am I suggesting that he isn't a sexual assault survivor ... just trying to understand the confusion. My understanding is, his sister was sexually assaulted and that was the source of the verbal abuse.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Feb 7, 2019 11:04:22 GMT -4
Okay ... I'm confused by this whole incident. Early reports indicated that something was said to a "sexual assault survivor" which turned out to be Studnicka. Now this morning I hear that somebody called him a "rapist" (CTV news). I don't know the back story that goes along with this so I may be completely misunderstanding the whole thing, but when does somebody being called a rapist also be called a sexual assault survivor. I'm not suggesting Studnicka is a rapist nor am I suggesting that he isn't a sexual assault survivor ... just trying to understand the confusion. My understanding is, his sister was sexually assaulted and that was the source of the verbal abuse. Thats pretty fucking low. This is CIS hockey...not that its acceptable at ANY level of hockey but these guys are grown adults themselves and have no leg to stand on in trying to defend any of this as "trash talk". Everyone can chew out both teams for the behavior. There's no room for the fighting and brawls at that level but there's less room for that kind of trash talk which only serves to instigate these types of incidents. I feel bad for the guy at X and the victim who keep having this stuff brought up it seems like. And i'd be ashamed to even try to defend any of this from the other point of view.
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Post by SteveUL on Feb 7, 2019 11:10:50 GMT -4
Ok ... we may have just violated the court imposed publication ban that could identify the victim, so you may want to edit or delete the posts that add to the identity of the victim. But still ... the AUS brass is saying that "the word rapist was used" and that doesn't make sense with the story as I understand it, including what we are saying here.
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Post by jimmy on Feb 7, 2019 11:51:11 GMT -4
Ok ... we may have just violated the court imposed publication ban that could identify the victim, so you may want to edit or delete the posts that add to the identity of the victim. But still ... the AUS brass is saying that "the word rapist was used" and that doesn't make sense with the story as I understand it, including what we are saying here. Apparently there are currently some St. FX athletes (not sure what sport) facing sexual assault allegations (not sure if they are formal charges or not) ... so it may have been a double pronged attack ... insulting the victim that Studnicka was close to, and also insinuating all of the X players were also rapists by association with the other X athletes facing allegations ...
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Post by pinkbeaver on Feb 7, 2019 11:54:43 GMT -4
Ok ... we may have just violated the court imposed publication ban that could identify the victim, so you may want to edit or delete the posts that add to the identity of the victim. But still ... the AUS brass is saying that "the word rapist was used" and that doesn't make sense with the story as I understand it, including what we are saying here. Re read what Scotiahockey said above. you should be able to put 2 and 2 together. It's too disgusting/unacceptable to need to go into any more detail.
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