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Post by pinkbeaver on Mar 26, 2019 10:35:31 GMT -4
Reading this thread, it seems that rules and bureaucracy seem to be something of an inhibitor to the leagues running most effectively, at least from a player development standpoint. I have long felt that PEI would probably benefit from having one single entry in the NB-PEI midget AAA league rather than the two entries (Kensington and Charlottetown). It seems that usually on PEI, one team is stacked and the other has real struggles being competitive. Kensington is strong once again this year, but the Atlantic hosts from Charlottetown are considerably weaker. But, from what I understand, Hockey Canada rules state that for teams to compete for the Telus Cup, they need to advance from a playoff in their own province. Thus, PEI must have two different teams that must compete against each other in a provincial playoffs (and not a combined NB-PEI playoff) in order for the PEI winner to be eligible to play in the Telus Cup. Just another example of rules and bureaucracy making it harder to operate strong development programs. I sort of get that requirement ... otherwise the same team would have a free seat at the Atlantics every year. But ultimately we send a team that represents the Atlantic region, with the Champions of 4 Provinces playing for the right to represent the region. I guess it all works out well since the Atlantics seem to be fairly evenly distributed. Not just one Province representing the region year to year. Has PEI represented the region in recent years ? All I am saying is that Moncton has won the NB league 8 of the last 13 years (might be 9 of 14 now, not sure) ... I think Saint John has one championship in that same time period (were they champions the year they hosted the Telus ? ) ... and Fredericton probably has 4. For quite awhile it was always Fredericton and Moncton in the final and they'd sort of swap back and forth year to year on who would come out champion. Moncton has now won 3 yrs in a row, and Fredericton has not been very competitive over the last few years. Even though I am from Moncton, and my brother played on the Flyers, and my Father Coached the Flyers ... I still see a dominance that is not good for everybody involved.
Part of the success of the Moncton Flyers team is that it is overall run really well. they generally have an older roster than Fredericton & Saint John, and I think that's because the kids want to stick around and play there versus going the junior A route. A guy like Kyle Ward could have played junior A at 17 but probably enjoyed the Flyers experience, and benefit from good coaching, etc. It seems that a lot less 15/16 year olds are playing in Fredericton ever since the Coaching staff changed a few year back. A Sam Dow caliber player probably stays home to play for Moncton but is moving on from Fredericton now.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 26, 2019 10:54:07 GMT -4
I sort of get that requirement ... otherwise the same team would have a free seat at the Atlantics every year. But ultimately we send a team that represents the Atlantic region, with the Champions of 4 Provinces playing for the right to represent the region. I guess it all works out well since the Atlantics seem to be fairly evenly distributed. Not just one Province representing the region year to year. Has PEI represented the region in recent years ? All I am saying is that Moncton has won the NB league 8 of the last 13 years (might be 9 of 14 now, not sure) ... I think Saint John has one championship in that same time period (were they champions the year they hosted the Telus ? ) ... and Fredericton probably has 4. For quite awhile it was always Fredericton and Moncton in the final and they'd sort of swap back and forth year to year on who would come out champion. Moncton has now won 3 yrs in a row, and Fredericton has not been very competitive over the last few years. Even though I am from Moncton, and my brother played on the Flyers, and my Father Coached the Flyers ... I still see a dominance that is not good for everybody involved.
Part of the success of the Moncton Flyers team is that it is overall run really well. they generally have an older roster than Fredericton & Saint John, and I think that's because the kids want to stick around and play there versus going the junior A route. A guy like Kyle Ward could have played junior A at 17 but probably enjoyed the Flyers experience, and benefit from good coaching, etc. It seems that a lot less 15/16 year olds are playing in Fredericton ever since the Coaching staff changed a few year back. A Sam Dow caliber player probably stays home to play for Moncton but is moving on from Fredericton now.
I suppose that the absence of a Jr A team in Moncton/Dieppe over the last two seasons has also allowed the Flyers to hold onto a few more players compared to a few years ago when the Jr A franchise was still present. Some of those 17 YO may have played Jr A if it was local, but with Amherst now being the closest (45 mins) they probably stick around in Midget for an extra year. I think the best approach is to probably have a maximum number of 17 YOs on each team ... but that would have to be a Hockey Canada rule so that all teams across the country play by the same rules. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 12:42:19 GMT -4
Going by Elite Prospects average age of teams, Moncton has been the youngest team in the league the last 2 years.
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Post by schultz on Apr 2, 2019 18:50:46 GMT -4
Well the teams are all set to start the Atlantic’s here in Charlottown on Thursday here is the link for all that wish to follow along. midget-male.atlanticaaahockey.caAnybody fell confident in making a prediction ? |
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Post by midgetfan on Apr 3, 2019 6:35:06 GMT -4
Well the teams are all set to start the Atlantic’s here in Charlottown on Thursday here is the link for all that wish to follow along. midget-male.atlanticaaahockey.caAnybody fell confident in making a prediction ? Moncton over Kensington in the final. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 3, 2019 11:22:45 GMT -4
I think it’ll be Moncton over Halifax in the Final. Kensington is more skilled than Halifax but I think they find a way.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 4, 2019 15:54:40 GMT -4
Kensington beat Moncton in OT
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Post by schultz on Apr 4, 2019 17:19:09 GMT -4
From what I witnessed today, Kensington is the team to beat, they were in controll and played a tight physical game with steady offensive pressure their D’s We’re steady and their goalie was there when needed and they should have won 5-3 or 6-3, they had the chances but couldn’t get them all behind Mctn’s goalie. Mctn’s D struggled with their transitions out of their zone and struggled with their man coverage, it wasn’t pretty at times.
I’m taking Kensington as champions as my proline inkling !
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Post by schultz on Apr 4, 2019 21:44:57 GMT -4
And both island teams beat up on Mctn today. 😉
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 4, 2019 21:56:54 GMT -4
And both island teams beat up on Mctn today. 😉 100% did not expect them to lose to Charlottetown... 2 losses on day 1, a real tough way to start Atlantic’s. |
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Post by schultz on Apr 4, 2019 22:15:26 GMT -4
100% did not expect charlottown to win vs Mctn either but I’ll take it, a really good day for us
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2019 9:25:25 GMT -4
And both island teams beat up on Mctn today. 😉 100% did not expect them to lose to Charlottetown... 2 losses on day 1, a real tough way to start Atlantic’s. They ran out of gas half way through the game. Playing their second game of the day against a fresh opponent is tough. There were some weird incidents in that game. I think it was late in the 3rd a Moncton player was down flat on the ice in between the benches, and 2 Charlottetown players were doing knee drops onto him. No call came out of it. |
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Post by midgetfan on Apr 5, 2019 13:28:02 GMT -4
100% did not expect them to lose to Charlottetown... 2 losses on day 1, a real tough way to start Atlantic’s. They ran out of gas half way through the game. Playing their second game of the day against a fresh opponent is tough. There were some weird incidents in that game. I think it was late in the 3rd a Moncton player was down flat on the ice in between the benches, and 2 Charlottetown players were doing knee drops onto him. No call came out of it. Island refs love their home cookin' |
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 5, 2019 13:34:19 GMT -4
They ran out of gas half way through the game. Playing their second game of the day against a fresh opponent is tough. There were some weird incidents in that game. I think it was late in the 3rd a Moncton player was down flat on the ice in between the benches, and 2 Charlottetown players were doing knee drops onto him. No call came out of it. Island refs love their home cookin' It use to be said that you were down by two goals before you even got on the boat ... pre-bridge of course. |
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Post by schultz on Apr 5, 2019 21:00:18 GMT -4
Island refs love their home cookin' It use to be said that you were down by two goals before you even got on the boat ... pre-bridge of course. I heard a rumour today that those same Refs Are not allowed to officiate any other games at the Atlantic’s , can someone confirm this ? |
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