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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 16, 2019 10:35:36 GMT -4
so umm Ovi-Svechnikov...... thoughts?  Kid asked for it...Ovie gave him time to reconsider...hard to blame Ovie. |
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 16, 2019 11:19:55 GMT -4
so umm Ovi-Svechnikov...... thoughts? If svetchnikov didnt get concussed in the fight and Ovi (their most dangerous player was out of game for 5 minutes a great trade off)...he missed a PP while in the box in a 1-0 game that may have been a difference.... IF Svechnikov didn't get concussed then Svechnikov would be being fitted for sainthood today. But since he got hurt he is second guessed. And people blame Ovi. Neither of those guys should ever fight. But its the playoffs. If you take away the concussion and they did win the game that kid is a hero in folklore forever. Ovechkin may have won the fight but he was a loser either way there. If he beats up a kid who challenged him he is a goon. If the Canes get riled up by the actions if the kid and energized it's bad for the Caps. He cant win by backing down because then the fans and the Canes claim victory and momentum. If he gets hurt in the fight like breaks a bone in his hand on a 19 year old it's bad. He was in a no win situation. Svechnikov had an upside but Ovi didnt. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 16, 2019 12:37:51 GMT -4
Svechnikov asked for it. You could tell Ovi didn't want to fight... but it's the playoffs and Svechnikov got the horns. One for Y Ddraig Goch: When was the last time a Russian fought another Russian? |
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Post by bois on Apr 16, 2019 12:45:25 GMT -4
Svechnikov asked for it. You could tell Ovi didn't want to fight... but it's the playoffs and Svechnikov got the horns. One for Y Ddraig Goch: When was the last time a Russian fought another Russian? not blaming Ovechkin at all but i disagree totally that there is any sign that the kid asked an unwilling participant here..... Ovechkin was very willing to oblige |
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Post by bois on Apr 16, 2019 12:49:58 GMT -4
so umm Ovi-Svechnikov...... thoughts? If svetchnikov didnt get concussed in the fight and Ovi (their most dangerous player was out of game for 5 minutes a great trade off)...he missed a PP while in the box in a 1-0 game that may have been a difference.... IF Svechnikov didn't get concussed then Svechnikov would be being fitted for sainthood today. But since he got hurt he is second guessed. And people blame Ovi. Neither of those guys should ever fight. But its the playoffs. If you take away the concussion and they did win the game that kid is a hero in folklore forever. Ovechkin may have won the fight but he was a loser either way there. If he beats up a kid who challenged him he is a goon. If the Canes get riled up by the actions if the kid and energized it's bad for the Caps. He cant win by backing down because then the fans and the Canes claim victory and momentum. If he gets hurt in the fight like breaks a bone in his hand on a 19 year old it's bad. He was in a no win situation. Svechnikov had an upside but Ovi didnt. nah i disagree with the folklore bullshit..... the Caps are up 2-0 in the series..... there's no folklore here it's a kid amped up asking his likely idol to go.... thinking yeah get the fans riled up... take Ovey off the ice for 5 minutes.... but dude if you can't fight.... why you asking a guy that much bigger to go? and in this day and age where we talk about removing fighting from the game.... why we got first line players and top pairing dmen who don't fight.... suddenly deciding the playoffs is a good time to start? (Brayden Point vs Zack Werenski now Svechnikov vs Ovechkin) doesn't look good on the NHL either when they go out of their way to suggest fighting rarely causes concussions yet in the last month we've seen two very violent ends to fights where guys are in very bad shape afterwards (Byron and Svechnikov) again i don't blame Ovi at all..... if it were me and i was deciding if i wanna fight someone or not.. i'm probably choosing the guy whose never done it before and weighs 40 pounds less than me and i'm going in first too.... |
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Post by JEagle on Apr 16, 2019 16:00:32 GMT -4
Big Brother isn't Happy lol.
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Post by Reesor on Apr 16, 2019 19:19:58 GMT -4
Svechnikov asked for it. You could tell Ovi didn't want to fight... but it's the playoffs and Svechnikov got the horns. One for Y Ddraig Goch: When was the last time a Russian fought another Russian? not blaming Ovechkin at all but i disagree totally that there is any sign that the kid asked an unwilling participant here..... Ovechkin was very willing to oblige It didn't take much to talk Ovi into fighting. But I thought it was clear that Svechnikov wanted to go right off the bat, and Ovi was a bit hesitant. |
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Post by Reesor on Apr 16, 2019 19:20:33 GMT -4
CBJ up 2-0 five minutes into the 1st. Millions of hockey pools simultaneously combust.
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Post by hal on Apr 16, 2019 21:46:05 GMT -4
Wow Tampa gone in four straight ......What changes will they make ?
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Post by hal on Apr 16, 2019 21:49:08 GMT -4
If Pittsburgh goes bye bye .....a lot of World Championship Teams just might get a lot stronger .
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 16, 2019 21:55:50 GMT -4
Wow Tampa gone in four straight ......What changes will they make ? I’m not sure they have to make any. They’re coming off a 62 win season, they played a team that did a lot of loading up and was IMO a lot better than an 8th seed but didn’t gel until late and never moved up the standings like they could have. TB’s best D missed 2 games and wasn’t quite right in the other ones after his late injury, Stralman never played and Kucherov took himself out of a pivotal Game 3 situation. Basically anything that could go wrong, did go wrong, including Vasilevskiy not playing great and Bobrovsky being fantastic. Any moves they make are completely reactionary and unnecessary, it took a perfect storm to beat them and it happened. That however isn’t reason enough to make drastic changes to a team that just tied the NHL record for wins. There will be natural changes that are inevitable due to the salary cap but I don’t expect them to do anything drastic to shake up their team, it’d be a huge mistake IMO if they do. |
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Post by juliansteed on Apr 16, 2019 21:55:56 GMT -4
Unbelievable 1st round sweep by CBJ!
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 16, 2019 22:42:34 GMT -4
Wow Tampa gone in four straight ......What changes will they make ? Very little. Top D pairing including Norris winner were both out and league MVP missed time with a suspension. Too much parity in this league to over come that at playoff time. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 16, 2019 22:44:17 GMT -4
Wow Tampa gone in four straight ......What changes will they make ? I’m not sure they have to make any. They’re coming off a 62 win season, they played a team that did a lot of loading up and was IMO a lot better than an 8th seed but didn’t gel until late and never moved up the standings like they could have. TB’s best D missed 2 games and wasn’t quite right in the other ones after his late injury, Stralman never played and Kucherov took himself out of a pivotal Game 3 situation. Basically anything that could go wrong, did go wrong, including Vasilevskiy not playing great and Bobrovsky being fantastic. Any moves they make are completely reactionary and unnecessary, it took a perfect storm to beat them and it happened. That however isn’t reason enough to make drastic changes to a team that just tied the NHL record for wins. There will be natural changes that are inevitable due to the salary cap but I don’t expect them to do anything drastic to shake up their team, it’d be a huge mistake IMO if they do. Exactly. This is a league where there's very little huge moves. A team like Tampa is committed to the core and minus moving maybe 1 to send a message there's no point in doing anything stupid when you have all that skill and talent under good deals. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 16, 2019 23:08:18 GMT -4
I’m not sure they have to make any. They’re coming off a 62 win season, they played a team that did a lot of loading up and was IMO a lot better than an 8th seed but didn’t gel until late and never moved up the standings like they could have. TB’s best D missed 2 games and wasn’t quite right in the other ones after his late injury, Stralman never played and Kucherov took himself out of a pivotal Game 3 situation. Basically anything that could go wrong, did go wrong, including Vasilevskiy not playing great and Bobrovsky being fantastic. Any moves they make are completely reactionary and unnecessary, it took a perfect storm to beat them and it happened. That however isn’t reason enough to make drastic changes to a team that just tied the NHL record for wins. There will be natural changes that are inevitable due to the salary cap but I don’t expect them to do anything drastic to shake up their team, it’d be a huge mistake IMO if they do. Exactly. This is a league where there's very little huge moves. A team like Tampa is committed to the core and minus moving maybe 1 to send a message there's no point in doing anything stupid when you have all that skill and talent under good deals. Vasilevskiy also finished with a .856 sv%, you’ll never win a series with that level of goaltending. If he even gives you a .900 sv%, which would still be well below what you’d expect, they’d have given up 5 less goals in the 4 games and you’re looking at a much different series at this point. The core players definitely aren’t going anywhere and you’ll have to throw some guys overboard to make the cap work but those moves were going to have to happen whether they won the Cup or lost in Round 1. You just chalk this one up to an amazing team, running into an extremely hot team and not being able to play their best hockey, due to a lot of factors out of their control. Move onto next season, come in with an elite team and give it another crack. |
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