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Post by bois on Apr 17, 2019 8:04:35 GMT -4
momentum in a short series is a very funny thing
Tampa never really faced much adversity all year long and alot of their unbelievable numbers were a result of a ridiculous powerplay.... in this series they barely had any pp opportunities.. their goalie let them down and let's call a spade a spade..... the offensive leaders were pretty invisible (Stamkos, Kucherov, Point)....
i don't expect major changes but someone will pay for this exit IMO that wasn't necessarily gonna pay had they gone 2-3-4 rounds deep
i'm quite honestly more shocked the Pens went out in 4 straight then the Lightning based on the factors that were in play here
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 17, 2019 9:46:06 GMT -4
I think TB looked small and soft in this series, they got badly pushed around. Looked weak mentally and physically.
The hard part this year is they played with normal rules most of the year, then 5-6 weeks ago stopped calling half the penalties. So far in the playoffs, it’s been Hudson Bay rules.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 17, 2019 12:20:40 GMT -4
I think TB looked small and soft in this series, they got badly pushed around. Looked weak mentally and physically. The hard part this year is they played with normal rules most of the year, then 5-6 weeks ago stopped calling half the penalties. So far in the playoffs, it’s been Hudson Bay rules. True about the change in the way things are called but TB is not new to this league and they should expect that rules sort of change in the playoffs because teams that win expect that. Its always happened like that. They thought they were so good they could overcome it? Maybe? They were deep but not deep enough once some of their horses on D got injured. They were not playoff ready. They had chances to create a backup plan or get guys who could survive playing the same team in b2b2b2 games. They werent built to make it through 3 teams that only focus was stopping them. They were built to beat one team one night and a different team the next. That's how they won their 62 games. That said Columbus really is as stacked as the other teams often considered contenders like Winnipeg, Boston, Washington and Vegas so we shouldnt be surprised they had a good first round.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Apr 18, 2019 8:28:12 GMT -4
Huge comeback win for the Avs in overtime last night; watched the replay this morning and does Makar ever look good for just playing his 2nd game in the league and under high pressure.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 18, 2019 8:39:42 GMT -4
Huge comeback win for the Avs in overtime last night; watched the replay this morning and does Makar ever look good for just playing his 2nd game in the league and under high pressure. "Why play him if they can't win the Cup?" the internet geniuses were asking 48 hours ago. Kid looks liks a stud.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Apr 18, 2019 8:53:19 GMT -4
Huge comeback win for the Avs in overtime last night; watched the replay this morning and does Makar ever look good for just playing his 2nd game in the league and under high pressure. "Why play him if they can't win the Cup?" the internet geniuses were asking 48 hours ago. Kid looks liks a stud. I wasn't in that group but I must say I do have some egg on my face for my feelings about him when the Avs drafted him in 2017 after getting bumped down from 1st to 4th- I was really unhappy about the pick but warmed up to him after the 2018 WJC. I think a lot of Avs fans were unhappy about playing him because I think that means he has to be protected now from Seattle in the expansion draft- I don't know if that is correct or not, I hope it isn't but the kid obviously belongs.
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Post by bois on Apr 18, 2019 9:07:53 GMT -4
Huge comeback win for the Avs in overtime last night; watched the replay this morning and does Makar ever look good for just playing his 2nd game in the league and under high pressure. "Why play him if they can't win the Cup?" the internet geniuses were asking 48 hours ago. Kid looks liks a stud. good for him but i do have a serious question here what's the purpose of a trade deadline/roster freeze if teams can simply bring players in in these situations ? I feel quite honestly he should not be eligible to play playoffs when you don't play a single regular season game same goes for Gusev in Vegas if he actually does play... to me shouldn't be allowed at this time of year either
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 18, 2019 9:16:43 GMT -4
"Why play him if they can't win the Cup?" the internet geniuses were asking 48 hours ago. Kid looks liks a stud. good for him but i do have a serious question here what's the purpose of a trade deadline/roster freeze if teams can simply bring players in in these situations ? I feel quite honestly he should not be eligible to play playoffs when you don't play a single regular season game same goes for Gusev in Vegas if he actually does play... to me shouldn't be allowed at this time of year either I agree with you. Makar was at least still an amateur. BUT I think there should be a rule that you need to play a regular season game to be eligible for playoffs if signing that late. Gusev played an entire pro season which makes that way worse. The fact he can sign in mid-April and walk into an NHL playoff game is laughable to me.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 18, 2019 9:50:43 GMT -4
good for him but i do have a serious question here what's the purpose of a trade deadline/roster freeze if teams can simply bring players in in these situations ? I feel quite honestly he should not be eligible to play playoffs when you don't play a single regular season game same goes for Gusev in Vegas if he actually does play... to me shouldn't be allowed at this time of year either I agree with you. Makar was at least still an amateur. BUT I think there should be a rule that you need to play a regular season game to be eligible for playoffs if signing that late. Gusev played an entire pro season which makes that way worse. The fact he can sign in mid-April and walk into an NHL playoff game is laughable to me. I guess the thinking is that these guys were on some sort of protected list and can thus be called up at any time similar to a guy that played in the AHL or junior (once their season is done). Re: NCAA guys, I don't really have a problem with drafted guys signing and reporting after their season, but perhaps free agents should be forced to adhere to a roster deadline of some sort. European pros, I am inclined to think should be subject to a roster deadline.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 18, 2019 10:45:06 GMT -4
I agree with you. Makar was at least still an amateur. BUT I think there should be a rule that you need to play a regular season game to be eligible for playoffs if signing that late. Gusev played an entire pro season which makes that way worse. The fact he can sign in mid-April and walk into an NHL playoff game is laughable to me. I guess the thinking is that these guys were on some sort of protected list and can thus be called up at any time similar to a guy that played in the AHL or junior (once their season is done). Re: NCAA guys, I don't really have a problem with drafted guys signing and reporting after their season, but perhaps free agents should be forced to adhere to a roster deadline of some sort. European pros, I am inclined to think should be subject to a roster deadline. I believe unsigned players have to pass waivers if signed after the trade deadline.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 18, 2019 11:46:54 GMT -4
I guess the thinking is that these guys were on some sort of protected list and can thus be called up at any time similar to a guy that played in the AHL or junior (once their season is done). Re: NCAA guys, I don't really have a problem with drafted guys signing and reporting after their season, but perhaps free agents should be forced to adhere to a roster deadline of some sort. European pros, I am inclined to think should be subject to a roster deadline. I believe unsigned players have to pass waivers if signed after the trade deadline. That musn't be a blanket rule ... no way the likes of Quinn Hughes, Poehling, Makar, Gusev clear waivers ...
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 18, 2019 13:55:15 GMT -4
Hmmm ... I think any drafted player should be eligible to be brought up at any point in the season ... if they are on the protected list. A free agent signing after the trade deadline, would be different and should not be eligible for post season play.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 18, 2019 13:59:14 GMT -4
I guess the thinking is that these guys were on some sort of protected list and can thus be called up at any time similar to a guy that played in the AHL or junior (once their season is done). Re: NCAA guys, I don't really have a problem with drafted guys signing and reporting after their season, but perhaps free agents should be forced to adhere to a roster deadline of some sort. European pros, I am inclined to think should be subject to a roster deadline. I believe unsigned players have to pass waivers if signed after the trade deadline. Only if they're not on your protected list at the beginning of the year I believe is the caveat here. That's why Ryan O'Rielly would have had to pass through waivers when Calgary offer sheeted him but he didn't for Colorado after they matched it because he was already their property.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 18, 2019 14:02:29 GMT -4
Hmmm ... I think any drafted player should be eligible to be brought up at any point in the season ... if they are on the protected list. A free agent signing after the trade deadline, would be different and should not be eligible for post season play. I think a player like Gusev playing his entire career in Russia who comes over at 26/27 should have to play a regular season game to be playoff eligible. Even if he's on an NHL teams reserve list. But he's an extreme case. Makar I view differently as he was still playing amateur/junior hockey and had not signed or played out a contract with anyone else professionally.
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Post by hal on Apr 20, 2019 6:02:42 GMT -4
Does Home Ice even mean anything anymore ?
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