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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 20, 2019 7:03:30 GMT -4
I believe unsigned players have to pass waivers if signed after the trade deadline. That musn't be a blanket rule ... no way the likes of Quinn Hughes, Poehling, Makar, Gusev clear waivers ... Those guys were signing their ELC's. I think it applies if you have an NHL veteran playing in Europe. Markov for example, had he signed after his KHL season would have had to pass waivers. Radulov when he went back to Nashville did not because he still had a valid NHL contract.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 20, 2019 7:10:11 GMT -4
Does Home Ice even mean anything anymore ? Same for being a favorite... The only favorites leading or who won... NYI(3 points ahead) If Washington and Nashville lose, plus Jets Sharks Bruins don't come back, there would only be 1 of 8 favorite winning...and I bet most people would have bet on Pittsburgh.
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 20, 2019 12:30:42 GMT -4
Does Home Ice even mean anything anymore ? Same for being a favorite... The only favorites leading or who won... NYI(3 points ahead) If Washington and Nashville lose, plus Jets Sharks Bruins don't come back, there would only be 1 of 8 favorite winning...and I bet most people would have bet on Pittsburgh. There wasn’t 8 favourites though. The only favourites were Tampa Bay, Washington, and Calgary. The rest of the series were all coin flips. Finishing with more points doesn’t mean you’re the favourite, it just means you have home ice.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 20, 2019 19:18:57 GMT -4
Last years SC champions won 10 road games on the way to the cup.
Playing on the road is not a bad thing for a good team. It may even be an advantage because the pressure is on the home team. The home guys have the advantage of last change and crowd but were splitting hairs with really good teams. They are good because they are used to winning even in uncomfortable situations.
I am not suggesting it but if they really want to make higher position in standing benefit a team in playoffs is make the first round a best of 6 rather than a best of 7. First to 4 wins but the advantage is the higher seed starts up 1-0. I really enjoy the way it is with the new season simply being that as a fresh start for everyone. Teams do have to build to face their likely opponents though. I think that's where some of these first round victims failed. They may have great teams but they matched up against their kryptonite in the very first round.
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Post by hal on Apr 20, 2019 21:33:34 GMT -4
Looks like The Leafs are the Last Canadian Team Standing ......never saw that coming .
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Post by bois on Apr 23, 2019 10:40:04 GMT -4
the craziness continues... Nashville, Winnipeg hit the skids
Carolina stretches defending champs to the max ... game 7 .... Carolina finds a way to win that somehow we have all 4 wild cards moving onto round two
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Post by hal on Apr 23, 2019 21:33:26 GMT -4
Gary Bettman is smiling .....Not a Canadian Team left in his Playoffs .
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 24, 2019 1:29:37 GMT -4
One of the worst calls I’ve ever seen in a hockey game tonight between Vegas and San Jose. That call completely changed the momentum of the game and never happens if the referees make the right call instead of reacting to what happened. There was no call on the initial play, until well after Pavelski got hurt. An absolute joke of a penalty and the referees will see they got it wrong but there’s no undoing what they did.
It’s up to Vegas to kill that penalty and they still had a chance to win it after they tied it up late but it should never have gotten to that.. the NHL should release a statement about it but we know they won’t because that’d undermine their refs.
The refs didn’t see whatever they thought they saw, they reacted to the result instead of what actually happened and in the process, completely changed the trajectory of the game. We’ll never know what would have happened had they not called that penalty, maybe Vegas loses anyways but it doesn’t change that they made a terrible call.
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Post by juliansteed on Apr 24, 2019 1:45:37 GMT -4
The Sharks were both good and lucky in the final 10 minutes of regulation to be able to win that game. Terrible call but gotta give them credit for scoring 4 on the PP without their captain.
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 24, 2019 1:57:43 GMT -4
The Sharks were both good and lucky in the final 10 minutes of regulation to be able to win that game. Terrible call but gotta give them credit for scoring 4 on the PP without their captain. Full credit to the Sharks for taking what was given to them and getting the job done, they earned that victory, as they still had to actually go out there and score the goals and Vegas couldn’t get it done. I think what bothers me about it (not them coming back and winning, as it was a hell of a game) is that the refs clearly didn’t actually see what happened but yet they made the call anyways and for all the things the NHL reviews, I don’t see why this shouldn’t be reviewable or at the very least allow the refs to take a look at it to determine what the call should be. You have all the technology there, if you’ll allow for some things and the refs have determined they want to call a penalty on the play, then why not let them look at it and decide whether it’s going to be a 2 or a 5. You’re protecting the refs in the end and we’ve already seen a couple of examples in these playoffs where a penalty was called and the wrong determination was made on its severity. The refs won’t always have the perfect angle to make these calls in real time with 1 chance at it and by looking at them, on big decisions like this, you can make sure you have the right angle and look to make the best call possible. It just seems too easy, you have all the technology and access there, why not use it to make sure you’ve gotten it right? Also on a side note, Kevin Labanc had probably the best 3 minute stretch he will ever have in his career and was buzzing all night. They did a hell of a job drafting and developing that kid.
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Post by juliansteed on Apr 24, 2019 2:17:56 GMT -4
The Sharks were both good and lucky in the final 10 minutes of regulation to be able to win that game. Terrible call but gotta give them credit for scoring 4 on the PP without their captain. Full credit to the Sharks for taking what was given to them and getting the job done, they earned that victory, as they still had to actually go out there and score the goals and Vegas couldn’t get it done. I think what bothers me about it (not them coming back and winning, as it was a hell of a game) is that the refs clearly didn’t actually see what happened but yet they made the call anyways and for all the things the NHL reviews, I don’t see why this shouldn’t be reviewable or at the very least allow the refs to take a look at it to determine what the call should be. You have all the technology there, if you’ll allow for some things and the refs have determined they want to call a penalty on the play, then why not let them look at it and decide whether it’s going to be a 2 or a 5. You’re protecting the refs in the end and we’ve already seen a couple of examples in these playoffs where a penalty was called and the wrong determination was made on its severity. The refs won’t always have the perfect angle to make these calls in real time with 1 chance at it and by looking at them, on big decisions like this, you can make sure you have the right angle and look to make the best call possible. It just seems too easy, you have all the technology and access there, why not use it to make sure you’ve gotten it right? Also on a side note, Kevin Labanc had probably the best 3 minute stretch he will ever have in his career and was buzzing all night. They did a hell of a job drafting and developing that kid. Agreed. Especially if they are going to change the initial call (or lack thereof) on the ice. That should only be able to happen after a video review. And yes what a display by Kevin Labanc among others. I hope Pavelski's season is not over.
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Post by juliansteed on Apr 24, 2019 2:19:17 GMT -4
I can't help but wonder if the game was tied or if it was the Sharks that were up by 3, if the same call would have been made.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 24, 2019 6:24:21 GMT -4
It’s up to Vegas to kill that penalty and they still had a chance to win it after they tied it up late but it should never have gotten to that.. the NHL should release a statement about it but we know they won’t because that’d undermine their refs. ------
Teams sometimes get unglued by adversity. They fixate on how they were wronged and take their eye off the ball. (Hapoened to Washington the day b4 on the no goal and rather than calm team down and focus on getting a goal they played with a bee in the bonnet and lost)
Vegas allowed 4 goals on that PP. 4 ? Well someone isnt focused on their job. You will get calls that dont go your way and even 5 min majors that are deserved at the worst time like in a tie game or late in a period.
This is the NHL you dont let 4 in on one 5 min PP. I have seen better responses down 2 men.
IF one goal had tipped the scale we could argue all week about the ref over penalizing on the play. But this was extraordinary the suckiest PK I have ever seen by Vegas. There also was no need to cross check on that play that was called so you need to wonder if the Knights really understood what their jobs were for that final 15 minutes or so when skating around playing keep away would have won them a series.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 24, 2019 8:25:14 GMT -4
The Sharks were both good and lucky in the final 10 minutes of regulation to be able to win that game. Terrible call but gotta give them credit for scoring 4 on the PP without their captain. Full credit to the Sharks for taking what was given to them and getting the job done, they earned that victory, as they still had to actually go out there and score the goals and Vegas couldn’t get it done. I think what bothers me about it (not them coming back and winning, as it was a hell of a game) is that the refs clearly didn’t actually see what happened but yet they made the call anyways and for all the things the NHL reviews, I don’t see why this shouldn’t be reviewable or at the very least allow the refs to take a look at it to determine what the call should be. You have all the technology there, if you’ll allow for some things and the refs have determined they want to call a penalty on the play, then why not let them look at it and decide whether it’s going to be a 2 or a 5. You’re protecting the refs in the end and we’ve already seen a couple of examples in these playoffs where a penalty was called and the wrong determination was made on its severity. The refs won’t always have the perfect angle to make these calls in real time with 1 chance at it and by looking at them, on big decisions like this, you can make sure you have the right angle and look to make the best call possible. It just seems too easy, you have all the technology and access there, why not use it to make sure you’ve gotten it right? Also on a side note, Kevin Labanc had probably the best 3 minute stretch he will ever have in his career and was buzzing all night. They did a hell of a job drafting and developing that kid. Right or wrong, it's what they do consistently...the call reflects an injury or non injury. Oshie penalty notwithstanding, they usually call 5 minutes when guys are hurt. If a guy get shoved headfirst 10 5 feet from the boards, unless it's an injury it's a 2 minute minor. Bottom line LVK gave up FOUR goals on one penalty, that alone means you deserve to lose. Block a few shots and stop a few pucks.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 24, 2019 8:38:12 GMT -4
Full credit to the Sharks for taking what was given to them and getting the job done, they earned that victory, as they still had to actually go out there and score the goals and Vegas couldn’t get it done. I think what bothers me about it (not them coming back and winning, as it was a hell of a game) is that the refs clearly didn’t actually see what happened but yet they made the call anyways and for all the things the NHL reviews, I don’t see why this shouldn’t be reviewable or at the very least allow the refs to take a look at it to determine what the call should be. You have all the technology there, if you’ll allow for some things and the refs have determined they want to call a penalty on the play, then why not let them look at it and decide whether it’s going to be a 2 or a 5. You’re protecting the refs in the end and we’ve already seen a couple of examples in these playoffs where a penalty was called and the wrong determination was made on its severity. The refs won’t always have the perfect angle to make these calls in real time with 1 chance at it and by looking at them, on big decisions like this, you can make sure you have the right angle and look to make the best call possible. It just seems too easy, you have all the technology and access there, why not use it to make sure you’ve gotten it right? Also on a side note, Kevin Labanc had probably the best 3 minute stretch he will ever have in his career and was buzzing all night. They did a hell of a job drafting and developing that kid. Right or wrong, it's what they do consistently...the call reflects an injury or non injury. Oshie penalty notwithstanding, they usually call 5 minutes when guys are hurt. If a guy get shoved headfirst 10 5 feet from the boards, unless it's an injury it's a 2 minute minor. Bottom line LVK gave up FOUR goals on one penalty, that alone means you deserve to lose. Block a few shots and stop a few pucks. and then they gave up the winner in OT. They still had a chance. Bad night for their best penalty killer MAF. No way anyone should lay that on the feet of the refs. And the way Vegas lost game 6 in 2OT a shorthanded goal against that the goalie should of had...probably the Vegas logo can go in the dictionary next to the word "squander"
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