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Post by statsman18 on Jul 27, 2020 12:13:27 GMT -4
The broadcast didn't help my feelings. They pumped up Gaviglio as if he had 40 saves last year when he was good but not great. Then he got rocked. They told us repeatedly that Yamguchi can't throw his best pitch due to not liking the MLB baseball. Then he got rocked. And yeah starters aren't stretched out yet and guys like Snell are nowhere near their best stuff but relievers shouldn't be in mid Spring form right now. They should at least have their pitches down. I can't understand how Yamaguchi is on the roster if he can't throw his splitter and everyone is well aware of it. Can I get 1/4 of the guys salary back if he can't throw 1 of his 4 pitches?  Buck and the other guy, whatshisname said this is a better pitching staff then last year. Lord help them. 1st it’s Dan Shulman who was calling games with Buck back when they won the World Series! He just got a beauty of a gig with ESPN and he took it. He’s one of the best play by play guys there is. 2nd this is better then last years pitching staff. That how bad it was last year. I know this is one of the old stats and people don’t give it much weight anymore but when a teams leader in pitching wins only has 6 wins, that says a lot. |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Jul 29, 2020 9:51:29 GMT -4
They were one inning away from taking two of three as road team against one of the pre-season favourites ... it is too soon to panic. Without having had much in the way of pre-season, they are still figuring out roles for relievers ... there are plenty of options, and some will step up and earn bigger roles, others will falter and see their roles fade. I know it is a condensed season, but I still think it will take a couple of weeks for Montoyo and company to figure out who they can count on out of the pen. Complaining about depth after 1 game that was a pretty standard opener was an eye opener for me. Is it cause to panic? I'm not sure. I just know i've never heard a manager complain about the depth of his pitching staff in the first series of a season. There were some positives (Shoemaker, Hatch, Romano) but they were outweighed by Gaviglio and Yamaguchi looking awful. And in a short season where you're playing the AL/NL East there's little room for error. I'm not panicking necessarily. I am saying that the overall interest after a series like that will hurt when NBA/NHL start later this week and the Jays home opener is in Washington. Add the COVID factor and MLB might become part time viewing for even hardcore MLB fans within the week. Where did you hear the manager complaining about pitching depth? Buck/Dan keep bringing up that Montoya feels they have great depth in pitching this year, especially compared to last. As of right now it looks pretty good, as they rank 6th in team ERA. If not for a Giles forearm strain, they'd be 4-1. After today, they are 10% of the way through the season lol. Crazy. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 29, 2020 10:23:20 GMT -4
Complaining about depth after 1 game that was a pretty standard opener was an eye opener for me. Is it cause to panic? I'm not sure. I just know i've never heard a manager complain about the depth of his pitching staff in the first series of a season. There were some positives (Shoemaker, Hatch, Romano) but they were outweighed by Gaviglio and Yamaguchi looking awful. And in a short season where you're playing the AL/NL East there's little room for error. I'm not panicking necessarily. I am saying that the overall interest after a series like that will hurt when NBA/NHL start later this week and the Jays home opener is in Washington. Add the COVID factor and MLB might become part time viewing for even hardcore MLB fans within the week. Where did you hear the manager complaining about pitching depth? Buck/Dan keep bringing up that Montoya feels they have great depth in pitching this year, especially compared to last. As of right now it looks pretty good, as they rank 6th in team ERA. If not for a Giles forearm strain, they'd be 4-1. After today, they are 10% of the way through the season lol. Crazy. Before Saturdays game Montoyo said he was concerned about the depth in the bullpen after Friday. But you have to think that his logic was looking at Shoemaker on Saturday and an opener on Sunday so after using 4-5 guys on Friday his concern was basically exactly what played out in the rest of that series. Forced to use guys who weren't ready who ended up blowing leads late in the games. And even after Giles threw his arm out they had the lead in Sundays game and brought in Yamamguchi. But based on everything they're saying about him he shouldn't even be on the roster as he isn't or won't throw his splitter due to not liking the MLB baseball. I'll give Gaviglio a free pass as he wasn't used in an ideal situation for him and should be more of a long guy. But Yamaguchi was brought in to be an 8th inning guy or even close if needed and he clearly isn't able to handle that if he can't throw all his pitches. Thankfully the starters keep giving them quality innings and guys like Romano and Bass have done well. If they can iron out the bullpen kinks there's no reason they can't compete for the playoffs in an expanded field as long as the starters keep giving them good innings. We know the hitters are going to put up some runs. Some discipline is all the youngsters are lacking at the plate. |
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Post by Score on Jul 29, 2020 19:57:06 GMT -4
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Post by Score on Jul 29, 2020 19:58:15 GMT -4
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Post by switchback on Jul 29, 2020 21:47:09 GMT -4
Montoyo lost them this game. All he had to do was start fisher in the bottom of the 9th from first and it would have broken up the double play you had Alford with great sped at third. If the catcher Suzuki who has a terrible arm threw down to second when fisher was advancing it could’ve created so many options but instead they keep fisher at first and let Hernandez it into a couple play.
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Post by statsman18 on Jul 30, 2020 7:53:23 GMT -4
Montoyo lost them this game. All he had to do was start fisher in the bottom of the 9th from first and it would have broken up the double play you had Alford with great sped at third. If the catcher Suzuki who has a terrible arm threw down to second when fisher was advancing it could’ve created so many options but instead they keep fisher at first and let Hernandez it into a couple play. I see what your saying but when Hernandez hit that ball I thought it was going to be a base hit anyways. He hit that hard. The only problem was it was right at the short stop. Here’s the other way to look at how it played out. How hard Hernandez did hit that if Fisher did steal the base maybe defence is positioned differently, but if Short was in the same spot I think they might have had a play at the plate on Alford. I know he’s fast but The ball was hit so hard I think short got the ball before Hernandez took his second stride. I was hard on Charlie in game 3 of the TBay series but I don’t think him not giving the green light on Fisher cost that game. It’s hard to tell if that out come really changes much in that inning. |
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Post by jimmy on Jul 30, 2020 8:49:30 GMT -4
That went pretty well ... Pearson is going to be an ace sooner rather than later. |
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Post by Score on Aug 11, 2020 20:32:05 GMT -4
Former Blue Jays pitcher Marcus Stroman opted out of the 2020 season due to COVID-19 concerns.
Stroman, scheduled to become a free agent after the season.
The Blue Jays acquired pitchers Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods Richardson in exchange for Stroman last season.
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Post by jimmy on Aug 12, 2020 7:33:44 GMT -4
Former Blue Jays pitcher Marcus Stroman opted out of the 2020 season due to COVID-19 concerns. Stroman, scheduled to become a free agent after the season. The Blue Jays acquired pitchers Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods Richardson in exchange for Stroman last season. Yep - saw that yesterday - Stroman pitched something like 10 games for the Mets, they missed the playoffs (and didn't come very close in my memory) - meanwhile Kay is already looking like a servicable MLB pitcher with several years of team control and Woods Richardson is considered a top prospect ... not looking like a great trade for the Mets ... |
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Post by statsman18 on Aug 12, 2020 8:43:01 GMT -4
Former Blue Jays pitcher Marcus Stroman opted out of the 2020 season due to COVID-19 concerns. Stroman, scheduled to become a free agent after the season. The Blue Jays acquired pitchers Anthony Kay and Simeon Woods Richardson in exchange for Stroman last season. Yep - saw that yesterday - Stroman pitched something like 10 games for the Mets, they missed the playoffs (and didn't come very close in my memory) - meanwhile Kay is already looking like a servicable MLB pitcher with several years of team control and Woods Richardson is considered a top prospect ... not looking like a great trade for the Mets ... That’s just payback for the Dickie trade a few years ago. |
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Post by jimmy on Aug 25, 2020 12:46:45 GMT -4
Jays are apparently in the market for a starting pitcher ... Mike Clevinger and Zach Plesac are rumoured to be on the block in Cleveland following their screw up re: COVID protocols ... factor in Shatkins connections' to the Tribe ... could be a fit? Clevinger has two more years' control after this season, Plesac five more ... Obviously you need to figure out whether they are good guys who made a mistake, or knuckleheads who will cause problems going forward - but Shatkins would likely know better than most on that ...
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Nov 27, 2020 9:47:45 GMT -4
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