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Post by Reesor on Apr 21, 2021 13:01:23 GMT -4
Might be a bit early to post, but Jeff Marek is a pretty good source, so I trust it.
Edit: Sounds official.
Honestly I was pissed reading that. Alberta had something like 2100+ Covid cases per day when the World Jrs happened from what I read. I can't be too upset about us being cautious, but with the Olympics next year (they typically don't hold the WWHC in a Winter Olympics year), it'll be two years before it comes back, and that'll be right when the Mooseheads are looking to contend again.
Would've been nice to showcase the fact that we can have an event of this caliber, with some fans, right now, and keep it safe. If it wasn't peak season for TFWs entering the province (properly even), the event probably takes place. Frustrating.
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Post by Reesor on Apr 21, 2021 13:19:09 GMT -4
Looks like they might try and move it.
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Post by Citris on Apr 21, 2021 15:16:35 GMT -4
Sucks to lose that event.... hopefully we can get it back at some point.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 21, 2021 15:37:23 GMT -4
Sucks to lose that event.... hopefully we can get it back at some point. Yeah hopefully the silver lining is this is something to look forward to in 2022 or 2023 hopefully with a jam packed 10,500 in Scotiabank Center to cheer on Team Canada. |
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Post by Smiley on Apr 21, 2021 16:13:19 GMT -4
Sucks to lose that event.... hopefully we can get it back at some point. Yeah hopefully the silver lining is this is something to look forward to in 2022 or 2023 hopefully with a jam packed 10,500 in Scotiabank Center to cheer on Team Canada. I don't think NS is going to be awarded this again in the near future. Pulling the plug this close to the event isn't going to leave a great impression with IIHF. I am not saying NS should have kept it on, but I thought they did have all the protocols in place. But Public Safety is more important than an ice hockey event. You just have to look at Ontario, out west or worse - India, just to see how this can still explode without proper vaccination levels. |
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Post by gtsoc on Apr 21, 2021 19:08:11 GMT -4
So what happened? As of yesterday, even with the new rules being put in to place this week, it was said the government was fine with the tournament moving ahead..now 24 hours and one day before the participants were to arrive..they pull the plug?
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Post by Reesor on Apr 21, 2021 20:09:38 GMT -4
Sucks to lose that event.... hopefully we can get it back at some point. Yeah hopefully the silver lining is this is something to look forward to in 2022 or 2023 hopefully with a jam packed 10,500 in Scotiabank Center to cheer on Team Canada. It actually sniffs of that. If I'm the HRM event committee and I'm looking at this from a financial perspective, why have the tournament now when you can wait until it comes back to Canada and then bid again? Rather have the tournament when it can make the maximum amount of tourist dollars and give the maximum amount of exposure, than have it now. Do you risk alienating yourself from hosting IIHF events in the future with this approach? Maybe.. but who's going to argue with "being cautious and putting the health and safety of the hockey players and public first"? I might be dreaming up stupid scenarios, but it seems like politics and leverage plays into every decision these days. |
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Post by mooseguy on Apr 22, 2021 7:12:09 GMT -4
From reading the various articles I get the impression the IIHF and Hockey Canada are pretty pissed off at NS. I wonder if this black lists us for any IIHF and Hockey Canada events for a long long time. The fact they said they are looking for a new location in Canada THIS summer speaks volumes.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 22, 2021 7:28:37 GMT -4
So what happened? As of yesterday, even with the new rules being put in to place this week, it was said the government was fine with the tournament moving ahead..now 24 hours and one day before the participants were to arrive..they pull the plug? The other teams hadnt boarded planes yet. That's what did/didnt happen. There were already people in the Premiers ear about the mixed messages of holding this event (in a bubble or not) when the Atlantic bubble was still closed. THEN.. they actually closed the border. Public health advised closing border but the premier has the political fallout from mixed messaging and he made that call before all the foreign participants got on planes to come. I get it. If even one positive case gets in the bubble he wears it. He is wearing it for cancelling. Every place is locking down now and the new India variant just arrived in two parts of Canada. That said. I'm not sure what real economic driver this was for NS thus year when visitors arent allowed. Bad for the hotels in the bubble. But the restaurants and bars today are more concerned of what might be coming down pipe in terms of another general lockdown. It would be better if Nova Scotians could take part in this tournament. Full attendance. But that wasnt happening anyway. I'm sure IIHF will pull it off somewhere else to appease sponsors. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 22, 2021 8:18:43 GMT -4
Yeah hopefully the silver lining is this is something to look forward to in 2022 or 2023 hopefully with a jam packed 10,500 in Scotiabank Center to cheer on Team Canada. I don't think NS is going to be awarded this again in the near future. Pulling the plug this close to the event isn't going to leave a great impression with IIHF. I am not saying NS should have kept it on, but I thought they did have all the protocols in place. But Public Safety is more important than an ice hockey event. You just have to look at Ontario, out west or worse - India, just to see how this can still explode without proper vaccination levels. I know that I wouldn’t give it to them again. You pull the pin, mere hours (2.5) after they get the go-ahead that it’s still on and according to Tom Renney, Dr. Strang and the medical people in the province were fine with it. I’d say the acting premier pulled rank and shut the event down. I personally don’t see any issue with this event taking place in a bubble, the risk to me is minimum, it clearly works as we’ve seen from multiple other bubbles in sports. I’d tell them thanks but no thanks the next time they come knocking for an event, they have a lot of other locations that will host and none of which pulled the pin hours after saying the event was a go-ahead, in a safe bubble environment. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 22, 2021 8:36:21 GMT -4
I don't think NS is going to be awarded this again in the near future. Pulling the plug this close to the event isn't going to leave a great impression with IIHF. I am not saying NS should have kept it on, but I thought they did have all the protocols in place. But Public Safety is more important than an ice hockey event. You just have to look at Ontario, out west or worse - India, just to see how this can still explode without proper vaccination levels. I know that I wouldn’t give it to them again. You pull the pin, mere hours (2.5) after they get the go-ahead that it’s still on and according to Tom Renney, Dr. Strang and the medical people in the province were fine with it. I’d say the acting premier pulled rank and shut the event down. I personally don’t see any issue with this event taking place in a bubble, the risk to me is minimum, it clearly works as we’ve seen from multiple other bubbles in sports. I’d tell them thanks but no thanks the next time they come knocking for an event, they have a lot of other locations that will host and none of which pulled the pin hours after saying the event was a go-ahead, in a safe bubble environment. They said that before they got a huge 1 day case increase. It's not like they went back on their word for no reason. Every single public decision has only existed in that moment for over a year now. Decisions change as the information changes. In this case it was awful timing of teams arriving today/tomorrow forcing their hand as there was a huge increase in cases. It's almost refreshing knowing the government didn't give into pressure from Hockey Canada/IIHF people who have zero interest in the health of Nova Scotians. But i'll also add the the fact bubbles are proven to work means the financial windfall was completely dismissed out of fear of variants as we continue to increases vaccinations. But the issue is that 1 bad outbreak at 1 nursing home makes all government officials look incompetent right now. The public has left no room for error on the public health side which is directly tied to the provincial government leadership. I'm sure common sense will reign and Nova Scotia won't have it held against them for cancelling an event during a public health crisis while the province is closing its borders during a state of emergency and the country itself is rushing to contain variants and discussing international flight bans. |
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 22, 2021 8:39:15 GMT -4
As with everything in this pandemic wait a week or two weeks before passing judgement on the govt. If things get out if control with no tournament and variants take hold people will say Rankin did the right thing.
Hockey Canada doesn't vote in the fall election. IIHF isn't his constituency. The old gal on the phone in show on News 95.7 is his constituency. Ever since the April 19 bubble opening was cancelled. I have seen 5 times as much push back against hosting this tournament on social media, in other media etc.
Optics is everything. He is taking a hit (a small one) on this to avoid a potentially worse one. The totality of events change every day in this pandemic. What was a good idea on Friday sometimes doesn't look as good on Wednesday. C'est la vie.
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Post by Mika on Apr 22, 2021 9:31:12 GMT -4
I can see why it would be cancelled, especially after the Covid scare in the World Men's Curling Championships. The virus got into their bubble late into the tournament and there's way less people involved in a curling tournament than a hockey tournament.
At this point cancelling to be on the safe side is far from a bad call to make.
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Post by mooseguy on Apr 22, 2021 22:05:25 GMT -4
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Post by Mika on Apr 23, 2021 7:59:53 GMT -4
Interesting. Didn't realize PEI was potentially in the running as a backup host. |
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