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Post by Jacques Strap on Mar 14, 2022 20:27:55 GMT -4
Lots of chatter on Twitter that the Jays are close to signing Freeman So I wonder how that would work with Guerrero? They would take turns playing 1st and DHing?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 15, 2022 9:50:17 GMT -4
Lots of chatter on Twitter that the Jays are close to signing Freeman At least 5 teams in the mix. TB is surprising. Jon Heyman @jonheyman · 1h Red Sox have joined the Freddie Freeman sweepstakes as things get more interesting. Teams known to be in now: the Dodgers plus 4 from AL East: Yankees, Rays and Jays, too
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 15, 2022 9:51:48 GMT -4
Lots of chatter on Twitter that the Jays are close to signing Freeman So I wonder how that would work with Guerrero? They would take turns playing 1st and DHing? Would be a very weird fit. Guerrero can play 3B in an emergency but not day in and day out. Not sure he would be happy being DH 5 days a week either. A guy like Bryant or Schwarber would fit better.
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Post by Penguins23® on Mar 16, 2022 8:06:18 GMT -4
Jays rumored to have traded for Matt Chapman. Not a big fan of adding someone who batted .210 last season but hopefully he can rebound now that he'll be 2 seasons post surgery.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Mar 16, 2022 8:17:27 GMT -4
Jays rumored to have traded for Matt Chapman. Not a big fan of adding someone who batted .210 last season but hopefully he can rebound now that he'll be 2 seasons post surgery. That means very little. He is an excellent fielder at 3B and will likely hit 30 +- homeruns. He will be a huge addition/improvement to the Jays imo. He doesn't fill the Jays need for a lefty impact bat, but they may not be done.
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Post by jimmy on Mar 16, 2022 9:11:34 GMT -4
Jays rumored to have traded for Matt Chapman. Not a big fan of adding someone who batted .210 last season but hopefully he can rebound now that he'll be 2 seasons post surgery. That means very little. He is an excellent fielder at 3B and will likely hit 30 +- homeruns. He will be a huge addition/improvement to the Jays imo. He doesn't fill the Jays need for a lefty impact bat, but they may not be done. Likely means the Jays are out on Freeman ... but Schwarber could still be an option as a lefty bat to play LF, which would make Gurriel expendable?? This is a big addition - apparently Chapman had been playing hurt the last couple of seasons and there is a theory that it contributed to his offensive decline. Defensively, he is considered one of the top defenders in all of baseball (former platinum glove winner) ... This lineup is starting to look scary!
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Post by lirette on Mar 16, 2022 9:16:32 GMT -4
That means very little. He is an excellent fielder at 3B and will likely hit 30 +- homeruns. He will be a huge addition/improvement to the Jays imo. He doesn't fill the Jays need for a lefty impact bat, but they may not be done. Likely means the Jays are out on Freeman ... but Schwarber could still be an option as a lefty bat to play LF, which would make Gurriel expendable?? This is a big addition - apparently Chapman had been playing hurt the last couple of seasons and there is a theory that it contributed to his offensive decline. Defensively, he is considered one of the top defenders in all of baseball (former platinum glove winner) ... This lineup is starting to look scary! Best defensive WAR in baseball in 2018 and 2019 There is also another element I've seen explored which is that the majority of RYU's ground balls go to the third baseman. Adding Chapman should also improve Ryu, and the pitching staff as a whole. While his BA isnt great, he's OBP is very similar to Gurriels last year.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 16, 2022 9:24:53 GMT -4
Solid 3B defensively. Lots of K's but should slot well into the lineup.
The bottom 1/3 of the order needed an upgrade. This starts to accomplish that. Huge upgrade defensively and lots of pop in his bat and joining a team where he doesn't need to hit 3rd or 4th necessarily.
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Post by jimmy on Mar 16, 2022 9:31:56 GMT -4
Will be anxious to see what the cost was ... MLB Trade Rumors (actually quoting Jon Morosi) is suggesting no roster players ... so based on what the Braves gave up for Olson, prospect cost is likely to be steep. I would be surprised if one of Groshans or Orelvis Martinez isn't going the other way ...
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Post by jimmy on Mar 16, 2022 10:15:07 GMT -4
Will be anxious to see what the cost was ... MLB Trade Rumors (actually quoting Jon Morosi) is suggesting no roster players ... so based on what the Braves gave up for Olson, prospect cost is likely to be steep. I would be surprised if one of Groshans or Orelvis Martinez isn't going the other way ... Looks like I was wrong - Sportsnet is saying 2021 1st rounder Gunnar Hoglund (P, expected to miss most of 2022 after TJ surgery that caused him to slide in the draft), IF Kevin Smith, along with Ps Zach Logue and Kirby Snead.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 16, 2022 10:29:07 GMT -4
Will be anxious to see what the cost was ... MLB Trade Rumors (actually quoting Jon Morosi) is suggesting no roster players ... so based on what the Braves gave up for Olson, prospect cost is likely to be steep. I would be surprised if one of Groshans or Orelvis Martinez isn't going the other way ... Looks like I was wrong - Sportsnet is saying 2021 1st rounder Gunnar Hoglund (P, expected to miss most of 2022 after TJ surgery that caused him to slide in the draft), IF Kevin Smith, along with Ps Zach Logue and Kirby Snead. Fair price. Especially with compensation picks for Semien and Ray coming. Short term the pool takes a hit but long term 2 of the 4 bodies leaving should be replenished.
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Post by Murph on Mar 16, 2022 10:37:40 GMT -4
Looks like I was wrong - Sportsnet is saying 2021 1st rounder Gunnar Hoglund (P, expected to miss most of 2022 after TJ surgery that caused him to slide in the draft), IF Kevin Smith, along with Ps Zach Logue and Kirby Snead. Fair price. Especially with compensation picks for Semien and Ray coming. Short term the pool takes a hit but long term 2 of the 4 bodies leaving should be replenished. Subtract Hoglund and the Gausman pick. Add comp picks for Semien and Ray and it’s essentially a net zero loss. They also clear two spots on the 40 man. Chapman, statistically is a better defender than Scott Rolen. We’re talking all time defence at 3B here. He struggled with the bat last year but his walk rate improved and he had BABIP bad luck. The fact he goes from a 3 hitter to likely 6 in the Jays lineup and I think offensively last year is the worst you can expect. LHB still should be a priority. Conforto as a FA would push Teo to DH which is a defensive upgrade. And since Cincy is giving guys away who make money, they’ve got a major OB% LHB as well.
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Post by jimmy on Mar 16, 2022 10:40:24 GMT -4
Looks like I was wrong - Sportsnet is saying 2021 1st rounder Gunnar Hoglund (P, expected to miss most of 2022 after TJ surgery that caused him to slide in the draft), IF Kevin Smith, along with Ps Zach Logue and Kirby Snead. Fair price. Especially with compensation picks for Semien and Ray coming. Short term the pool takes a hit but long term 2 of the 4 bodies leaving should be replenished. I think so - Hoglund is a lottery ticket, he could develop into a front line MLB starter, but for every guy that COULD and DOES, 5 fail to amount to much - so many things could happen, especially with pitchers. Smith is a guy who I can see becoming a big league regular, but was blocked in Toronto, Logue and Snead are organizational depth pitchers - they come and they go - would not be surprised to see either or both get some big league innings with the A's as soon as this year, but who knows what they will amount to - at this point they appear to be the kind of guys that ride the MLB/AAA shuttle until they run out of options and get passed around on waivers, but they could end up being more.
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Post by Murph on Mar 16, 2022 10:41:39 GMT -4
Fair price. Especially with compensation picks for Semien and Ray coming. Short term the pool takes a hit but long term 2 of the 4 bodies leaving should be replenished. I think so - Hoglund is a lottery ticket, he could develop into a front line MLB starter, but for every guy that COULD and DOES, 5 fail to amount to much - so many things could happen, especially with pitchers. Smith is a guy who I can see becoming a big league regular, but was blocked in Toronto, Logue and Snead are organizational depth pitchers - they come and they go - would not be surprised to see either or both get some big league innings with the A's as soon as this year, but who knows what they will amount to - at this point they appear to be the kind of guys that ride the MLB/AAA shuttle until they run out of options and get passed around on waivers, but they could end up being more. Snead wasn’t gonna get innings with Toronto as an unvaccinated player unless the mandate rules change as well.
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Post by Murph on Mar 16, 2022 10:46:12 GMT -4
Also I remember guys on this board a few years ago talking about “Shatkins” not having a clue how to build a team. Please, show yourselves!! Lol
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