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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2022 7:40:56 GMT -4
Sticking with original thought and taking Poirier at #1.
Up front I am making room for 2 new 17's and a new 16. There will be at least 1 new 20 added, maybe 2.
On the back end I am adding a new 17 and a new 16.
Net stays the same until x-mas, unless a deal comes at the draft that you can't refuse.
So who goes? Is there any trade value amongst our forwards? Langlois is a huge poker chip on the back end.
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Post by JEagle on Jun 6, 2022 16:11:52 GMT -4
Truthfully they have a real chance to rebuild properly as long as they're willing to stick to it patiently, just one look at the roster and you can see a young core developing coming into the 22-23 season.
F - Cam Squires 17yo F - Matis Ouellet 17yo F - Luke Patterson 17yo D - Emile Perron 17yo D - Xavier Daigle 17yo
If they decide to draft two new euros instead of just the one to replace Ivan you could potentially start next season with as many as seven 17-year olds on the roster.
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Post by classiccaper on Jun 6, 2022 18:40:47 GMT -4
Truthfully they have a real chance to rebuild properly as long as they're willing to stick to it patiently, just one look at the roster and you can see a young core developing coming into the 22-23 season. F - Cam Squires 17yo F - Matis Ouellet 17yo F - Luke Patterson 17yo D - Emile Perron 17yo D - Xavier Daigle 17yo If they decide to draft two new euros instead of just the one to replace Ivan you could potentially start next season with as many as seven 17-year olds on the roster. i agree. Plus a few top end 16s in this draft with #1, 11, 19, 26. On top of that im sure we will be moving a goalie plus langlois to continue to add to the core. Personally i would like to see then keep repcik. I thought he played well in the 1/2 season here. Then can always draft a new euro the following season.
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Post by eagle23 on Jun 6, 2022 20:12:48 GMT -4
Your also getting Josh Lawrence from Saint John and he is a 20 year old part of the Trenholm or Francis trade. The teams weakness is really with the 19 years old. I would trade them and go young. Build off your 17 year olds and build for 2 years. Players like Camp, unless they are amazing leader in the room likely need to go. Canning should be traded and given a fresh start he isn’t playing Q caliber hockey right now.
The team needs a total rebuild. Start this draft and your 17 year olds. Grab a few new players to help guys like Lawrence and finish likely still bottom but not far from the bottom and positive signs ahead.
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Post by classiccaper on Jun 6, 2022 20:48:55 GMT -4
Your also getting Josh Lawrence from Saint John and he is a 20 year old part of the Trenholm or Francis trade. The teams weakness is really with the 19 years old. I would trade them and go young. Build off your 17 year olds and build for 2 years. Players like Camp, unless they are amazing leader in the room likely need to go. Canning should be traded and given a fresh start he isn’t playing Q caliber hockey right now. The team needs a total rebuild. Start this draft and your 17 year olds. Grab a few new players to help guys like Lawrence and finish likely still bottom but not far from the bottom and positive signs ahead. i agree. Move a goalie at the draft, move langlois at the draft or xmas, gather mr young assets/picks. I like drafting d'aigle 1st and having him play behind ruccia or dela, then trade that other goalie next xmas and give d'aigle the reins. Wouldnt hate moving pick 26 plus a goalie to move up in the 1st round to give us 3 1sts.
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Post by Score on Jun 7, 2022 8:02:41 GMT -4
Not Eagles chat.....but I see the Isles moving players like Guay, Roy, Lepenna, Trudeau, possibly Brabenec.....sometime from draft day and the deadline. For high picks and young talented players.
With those moves, the rebuild will still take time.....but it will definitely speed up the process .
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Post by statsman18 on Jun 7, 2022 9:24:42 GMT -4
Your also getting Josh Lawrence from Saint John and he is a 20 year old part of the Trenholm or Francis trade. This statement seemed to slip through the cracks here. I haven’t seen this Future talked about anywhere before so I have to ask where’s this coming from? Next it’s definitely not from Francis deal that was 2021 trade deadline year, a future doesn’t go 2 years from the trade especially after the Boomerang trade. So it’s definitely if true part of the Trenholm deal. If this is true he’s definitely a flip at Christmas because he’d arguably be the top 20yo on the market. I say arguably because I think it’s a coin flip between him and Guay from PEI. Might come down to wanting a Center or a winger who you think is the top 20yo next year. So again I have to ask where did this rumour come from?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 7, 2022 10:28:27 GMT -4
Your also getting Josh Lawrence from Saint John and he is a 20 year old part of the Trenholm or Francis trade. This statement seemed to slip through the cracks here. I haven’t seen this Future talked about anywhere before so I have to ask where’s this coming from? Next it’s definitely not from Francis deal that was 2021 trade deadline year, a future doesn’t go 2 years from the trade especially after the Boomerang trade. So it’s definitely if true part of the Trenholm deal. If this is true he’s definitely a flip at Christmas because he’d arguably be the top 20yo on the market. I say arguably because I think it’s a coin flip between him and Guay from PEI. Might come down to wanting a Center or a winger who you think is the top 20yo next year. So again I have to ask where did this rumour come from? We've been talking about it for weeks. The biggest question is at what cost. Rumors say an overager is also coming from PEI. Asking where rumors come from is just silly at this point. Some of them come from people who want the info out there. Some are exactly that - rumors with no substance. We'll see at the draft what is true or not but nobody is about to start telling you where it came from.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 7, 2022 10:31:51 GMT -4
Your also getting Josh Lawrence from Saint John and he is a 20 year old part of the Trenholm or Francis trade. The teams weakness is really with the 19 years old. I would trade them and go young. Build off your 17 year olds and build for 2 years. Players like Camp, unless they are amazing leader in the room likely need to go. Canning should be traded and given a fresh start he isn’t playing Q caliber hockey right now. The team needs a total rebuild. Start this draft and your 17 year olds. Grab a few new players to help guys like Lawrence and finish likely still bottom but not far from the bottom and positive signs ahead. i agree. Move a goalie at the draft, move langlois at the draft or xmas, gather mr young assets/picks. I like drafting d'aigle 1st and having him play behind ruccia or dela, then trade that other goalie next xmas and give d'aigle the reins. Wouldnt hate moving pick 26 plus a goalie to move up in the 1st round to give us 3 1sts. Agree. Thats the kind of thinking I hope we're putting in place. Love the idea of moving up and having 3 1sts as well. We havent done enough of that stuff over time. But thats how you build strong organizations - with the key being having the kids wanting to play here. Langlois to the highest bidder should add 2-3 more key assets as well and you really start to see a core formed from these 2 age groups.
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Post by classiccaper on Jun 7, 2022 11:48:38 GMT -4
i agree. Move a goalie at the draft, move langlois at the draft or xmas, gather mr young assets/picks. I like drafting d'aigle 1st and having him play behind ruccia or dela, then trade that other goalie next xmas and give d'aigle the reins. Wouldnt hate moving pick 26 plus a goalie to move up in the 1st round to give us 3 1sts. Agree. Thats the kind of thinking I hope we're putting in place. Love the idea of moving up and having 3 1sts as well. We havent done enough of that stuff over time. But thats how you build strong organizations - with the key being having the kids wanting to play here. Langlois to the highest bidder should add 2-3 more key assets as well and you really start to see a core formed from these 2 age groups. gotta think say ruccia goes, he should get atleast a 1st rounder based on his work over his time, this league also seems to go by where they were drafted as well. So ruccia and a 3rd or dela and mid 2nd seems to me like it should be enough to get a mid round 1st. Langlois definately should get 2-3 assets i agree. Good assets as well. Just not sure who might be in line for his services. Only teams that really comes to mind might be halifax and gatineau.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 12:20:21 GMT -4
Titan have mid round pick and could use a solid 18 year old goalie. Wonder if Sly and Clarke would ever do a deal...or does that relationship need time to heal. Drum, Gat, RN, SJ, CHI all you could use an upgrade in net. If we in fact take D'Aigle first overall, CHIC has picks to move and they need goaltending.
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Post by statsman18 on Jun 7, 2022 13:53:08 GMT -4
Titan have mid round pick and could use a solid 18 year old goalie. Wonder if Sly and Clarke would ever do a deal...or does that relationship need time to heal. Drum, Gat, RN, SJ, CHI all you could use an upgrade in net. If we in fact take D'Aigle first overall, CHIC has picks to move and they need goaltending. I seen someone saying Poirier as a probable target. IMO this fits and makes a lot of sense. He might not be BPA but his brother playing in the Maritimes I don’t think reporting would be a problem. With CB it BPA that will report. And by the sounds of it he will still be one hell of a player. Add on the Lawrence rumours his brother could probably say he’d be a good player to play with. Now looking into it a bit and I missed the talk earlier on Lawrence I looked at the original trade. Here’s how I see it. The 24 1st round is no doubt going back. The 2nd part people keep saying it might be the 11th pick. I think that’s safe. The 2nd round pick that was also in the original trade to CB I think is going back too. That pick would have been a big selling piece for trades at the deadline instead they sent it to you guys. The trade was basically a do us a favour trade because SJ needed more pick to finish other trades. The Lawrence part is you guys getting a discount on the trade for helping out SJ to get the Moncton and BC trades done. So I think you will see it being SJ’s 1st in 24 and 2nd in 23. As for the Rumour on the PEI 20yo player if it’s a future on the Stairs trade you only got a 6th rounder as a holder. If that’s the case look at Maynard or LeBlanc as the 20yo. If it’s a futures trade it can’t be Roy because the Roy trade was after the Stairs trade so it would be a separate trade and if that’s the case then that Halifax pick could be at play but I doubt it. Roy you could probably give PEI back their 2nd rounder for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2022 14:14:49 GMT -4
Agree on Poirier and I think he is in fact the BPA. Goal scoring is so hard to find, you can't pass up the possibility of this guy lighting the lamp at an incredible rate when he is 18-19.
Great break down BTW on the possible futures and past trades!
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Post by classiccaper on Jun 7, 2022 14:17:18 GMT -4
Titan have mid round pick and could use a solid 18 year old goalie. Wonder if Sly and Clarke would ever do a deal...or does that relationship need time to heal. Drum, Gat, RN, SJ, CHI all you could use an upgrade in net. If we in fact take D'Aigle first overall, CHIC has picks to move and they need goaltending. if they wanted d'aigle, i wouldnt mind trading with chicoutimi to get say #3, #12 +
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Post by classiccaper on Jun 7, 2022 14:19:25 GMT -4
Titan have mid round pick and could use a solid 18 year old goalie. Wonder if Sly and Clarke would ever do a deal...or does that relationship need time to heal. Drum, Gat, RN, SJ, CHI all you could use an upgrade in net. If we in fact take D'Aigle first overall, CHIC has picks to move and they need goaltending. I seen someone saying Poirier as a probable target. IMO this fits and makes a lot of sense. He might not be BPA but his brother playing in the Maritimes I don’t think reporting would be a problem. With CB it BPA that will report. And by the sounds of it he will still be one hell of a player. Add on the Lawrence rumours his brother could probably say he’d be a good player to play with. Now looking into it a bit and I missed the talk earlier on Lawrence I looked at the original trade. Here’s how I see it. The 24 1st round is no doubt going back. The 2nd part people keep saying it might be the 11th pick. I think that’s safe. The 2nd round pick that was also in the original trade to CB I think is going back too. That pick would have been a big selling piece for trades at the deadline instead they sent it to you guys. The trade was basically a do us a favour trade because SJ needed more pick to finish other trades. The Lawrence part is you guys getting a discount on the trade for helping out SJ to get the Moncton and BC trades done. So I think you will see it being SJ’s 1st in 24 and 2nd in 23. As for the Rumour on the PEI 20yo player if it’s a future on the Stairs trade you only got a 6th rounder as a holder. If that’s the case look at Maynard or LeBlanc as the 20yo. If it’s a futures trade it can’t be Roy because the Roy trade was after the Stairs trade so it would be a separate trade and if that’s the case then that Halifax pick could be at play but I doubt it. Roy you could probably give PEI back their 2nd rounder for him. i remember carriere saying that 2024 st john pick was ours and wasnt going back. I could see st john 2nd and another pick like a 3rd goimg for lawrence. And the rumour of a 20 from charlottetown could be similar as we got a 2nd in the stairs deal
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