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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 4, 2022 8:33:47 GMT -4
I'm a bit surprised TB got next to nothing for McDonagh. That will leave a sizeable hole to be filled.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 4, 2022 8:55:27 GMT -4
The rest of the league is trying to figure out what blackmail TB has on Poile.
He's 33 with 4 more years paying him $6.75 with a full NTC. If he was playing on certain big market teams he'd be considered an unmovable anchor.
TB dumped him without even needing to include any picks or anything.
Now TB can probably afford to keep Palat and others. Not sure what you expected that contract to be worth but to most it had negative value until the deal was announced.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 4, 2022 9:15:02 GMT -4
The rest of the league is trying to figure out what blackmail TB has on Poile. He's 33 with 4 more years paying him $6.75 with a full NTC. If he was playing on certain big market teams he'd be considered an unmovable anchor. TB dumped him without even needing to include any picks or anything. Now TB can probably afford to keep Palat and others. Not sure what you expected that contract to be worth but to most it had negative value until the deal was announced. The AAV for 4 years is not ideal but if he was a UFA, somebody would end up giving him that. For TB it leaves a big hole on defense for a team looking to win now.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 4, 2022 9:22:08 GMT -4
The rest of the league is trying to figure out what blackmail TB has on Poile. He's 33 with 4 more years paying him $6.75 with a full NTC. If he was playing on certain big market teams he'd be considered an unmovable anchor. TB dumped him without even needing to include any picks or anything. Now TB can probably afford to keep Palat and others. Not sure what you expected that contract to be worth but to most it had negative value until the deal was announced. The AAV for 4 years is not ideal but if he was a UFA, somebody would end up giving him that. For TB it leaves a big hole on defense for a team looking to win now. I don't know if too many teams would have given him $27 million for the next 4 years at his age with the miles on his body from the past 3 playoff runs. TB was going to have holes on matter what. Thats what the salary cap does. If was let Palat and others leave or move McDonough. They chose to move what they view as the asset going to drop off the quickest it would appear and I doubt they're wrong on that. I think Nashville grows to hate that contract and views it as an anchor by the 2023 trade deadline.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 4, 2022 9:32:04 GMT -4
The AAV for 4 years is not ideal but if he was a UFA, somebody would end up giving him that. For TB it leaves a big hole on defense for a team looking to win now. I don't know if too many teams would have given him $27 million for the next 4 years at his age with the miles on his body from the past 3 playoff runs. TB was going to have holes on matter what. Thats what the salary cap does. If was let Palat and others leave or move McDonough. They chose to move what they view as the asset going to drop off the quickest it would appear and I doubt they're wrong on that. I think Nashville grows to hate that contract and views it as an anchor by the 2023 trade deadline. I think Nashville did it because 1-they want to win now 2-they see the cap going up 8-10M over the next 2-3 years post Covid and 3-they want to show Forsberg they are serious about winning.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 4, 2022 9:53:42 GMT -4
I don't know if too many teams would have given him $27 million for the next 4 years at his age with the miles on his body from the past 3 playoff runs. TB was going to have holes on matter what. Thats what the salary cap does. If was let Palat and others leave or move McDonough. They chose to move what they view as the asset going to drop off the quickest it would appear and I doubt they're wrong on that. I think Nashville grows to hate that contract and views it as an anchor by the 2023 trade deadline. I think Nashville did it because 1-they want to win now 2-they see the cap going up 8-10M over the next 2-3 years post Covid and 3-they want to show Forsberg they are serious about winning. They've been $1mil apart with Forsberg. Acquiring McDonough doesn't change their negotiations with him they're either paying him or they're not. I don't see how McDonough changes much for them. They're a team thats made a lot of bad decisions in who to build around up front in my opinion. Johansen has been brutal for what they expected. I don't see how they're any more than a bubble team after adding McDonough without some serious upgrades up front. And thats assuming they keep Forsberg and give him close to half of their remaining cap space.
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Post by bois on Jul 4, 2022 10:36:51 GMT -4
I think Captain Obvious thinks Ryan McDonaagh is the same player he was 3 years ago
he's not
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 4, 2022 11:20:00 GMT -4
I think Captain Obvious thinks Ryan McDonaagh is the same player he was 3 years ago he's not He is used more in a shutdown role than he was in NY, but he's still a 22 minute a game guy on the best team in a generation.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 4, 2022 11:22:35 GMT -4
The most interesting file this summer in what will happen in Winnipeg, Wheeler, Scheifele and Dubois are all options to move and the team isn't looking for a rebuild...I wonder if a Dubois-Debrincat could make sense?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 4, 2022 22:53:23 GMT -4
Apparently TB told McDonough since he had a NTC and not an NMC he could go to Nashville via trade or go on waivers and go to Columbus.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Jul 5, 2022 7:59:41 GMT -4
Apparently TB told McDonough since he had a NTC and not an NMC he could go to Nashville via trade or go on waivers and go to Columbus. A NTC or NMC have their pitfalls. The only reason a team agrees to these is to buy a concession in salary and term. Player signs for a little less in exchange for the security he wont be moved. Because it ties the team up. Like a locked in mortgage with a better rate but you would usually pay a penalty to get out. (Kelly Hrudey always said if they ask you to waive a NTC later on they should owe you the money that was left on table for agreeing to that) That said an agent that allows a player to have a NTC without a NMC is just not doing his job. Unless it's a very limited NMC.
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Post by Score on Jul 5, 2022 12:28:12 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 6, 2022 8:07:33 GMT -4
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Post by jimmy on Jul 6, 2022 8:48:05 GMT -4
Well, in a literal sense … I am sure they have considered it … now if they actually end up choosing it from among the options, then yes, not a wise decision.
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Post by bois on Jul 6, 2022 9:02:55 GMT -4
who still pays any attention to Nick Kypreos?
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