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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 6, 2022 9:03:09 GMT -4
Nothing like Leafs click bait prior to free agency season.
You'd think there were only 4-6 teams in the league with how much certain "insiders" hyper focus on the same narratives whether they have any actual information or not.
Anyone who would believe Dubas will run with only the current internal options he has should get out and enjoy the weather.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 6, 2022 9:17:38 GMT -4
who still pays any attention to Nick Kypreos? He's had a ton of trade/inside info scoops. People crapped on him on the "Webber could be done" Tweet and Weber was done a year later...
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 6, 2022 9:45:36 GMT -4
who still pays any attention to Nick Kypreos? He's had a ton of trade/inside info scoops. People crapped on him on the "Webber could be done" Tweet and Weber was done a year later... You mean the tweet he apologized for? You realize he said Weber would be done pre-pandemic, right? Weber took them to the Cup Finals like 18 months after Kypreos apologized for the tweet. By the time Webers 20-21 season ended in the Cup Finals everyone knew he was extremely banged up and at minimum needing a year off which we see now is retirement. But if I say Sidney Crosby may have to retire because of X and he takes Pittsburgh to the finals the next season and then retires because of X with Y and Z added on top was I actually right or simply jumping the gun to try and get myself "out there" at a time when nobody is paying much attention to me?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 6, 2022 10:14:04 GMT -4
He's had a ton of trade/inside info scoops. People crapped on him on the "Webber could be done" Tweet and Weber was done a year later... You mean the tweet he apologized for? You realize he said Weber would be done pre-pandemic, right? Weber took them to the Cup Finals like 18 months after Kypreos apologized for the tweet. By the time Webers 20-21 season ended in the Cup Finals everyone knew he was extremely banged up and at minimum needing a year off which we see now is retirement. But if I say Sidney Crosby may have to retire because of X and he takes Pittsburgh to the finals the next season and then retires because of X with Y and Z added on top was I actually right or simply jumping the gun to try and get myself "out there" at a time when nobody is paying much attention to me? People shit all over him, but he was right, the foot injury WAS at risk of ending his career. Weber chose to play through a lot of pain, his teammates have said that they don't know how he was able to play so long and so much with what he was going through. in a similar situation, many guys would have quit much sooner...Hossa retired because his equipment gave him a rash for example...
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 6, 2022 10:16:30 GMT -4
You mean the tweet he apologized for? You realize he said Weber would be done pre-pandemic, right? Weber took them to the Cup Finals like 18 months after Kypreos apologized for the tweet. By the time Webers 20-21 season ended in the Cup Finals everyone knew he was extremely banged up and at minimum needing a year off which we see now is retirement. But if I say Sidney Crosby may have to retire because of X and he takes Pittsburgh to the finals the next season and then retires because of X with Y and Z added on top was I actually right or simply jumping the gun to try and get myself "out there" at a time when nobody is paying much attention to me? People shit all over him, but he was right, the foot injury WAS at risk of ending his career. Weber chose to play through a lot of pain, his teammates have said that they don't know how he was able to play so long and so much with what he was going through. in a similar situation, many guys would have quit much sooner...Hossa retired because his equipment gave him a rash for example... He said surgery was imminent and retirement ahead about 18 months before he played his last game. He literally apologized for the tweet because it wasn't accurate that he was on the verge of retirement in early 2020. He wasn't right. He put the info out there too early. All because he had no major employer at the time and was trying to be an "insider". If he was so right he would have never apologized for putting the info out there when he did.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 6, 2022 11:20:10 GMT -4
People shit all over him, but he was right, the foot injury WAS at risk of ending his career. Weber chose to play through a lot of pain, his teammates have said that they don't know how he was able to play so long and so much with what he was going through. in a similar situation, many guys would have quit much sooner...Hossa retired because his equipment gave him a rash for example... He said surgery was imminent and retirement ahead about 18 months before he played his last game. He literally apologized for the tweet because it wasn't accurate that he was on the verge of retirement in early 2020. He wasn't right. He put the info out there too early. All because he had no major employer at the time and was trying to be an "insider". If he was so right he would have never apologized for putting the info out there when he did. He apologized to Weber for putting out the info, but he wasn't wrong... Nick Kypreos @realkyper Sources say Shea Weber injury has his season likely over and his future in question. Told injury is related to foot that was surgically repaired in 2018. While waiting for swelling to alleviate and further confirmation, surgery seemed unavoidable going into this week. @nhl #weber 1:52 PM · Feb 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone Weber decided to keep playing with the pain and recurring swelling, and it ended his career a year+ later.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 6, 2022 11:24:35 GMT -4
He said surgery was imminent and retirement ahead about 18 months before he played his last game. He literally apologized for the tweet because it wasn't accurate that he was on the verge of retirement in early 2020. He wasn't right. He put the info out there too early. All because he had no major employer at the time and was trying to be an "insider". If he was so right he would have never apologized for putting the info out there when he did. He apologized to Weber for putting out the info, but he wasn't wrong... Nick Kypreos @realkyper Sources say Shea Weber injury has his season likely over and his future in question. Told injury is related to foot that was surgically repaired in 2018. While waiting for swelling to alleviate and further confirmation, surgery seemed unavoidable going into this week. @nhl #weber 1:52 PM · Feb 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone Weber decided to keep playing with the pain and recurring swelling, and it ended his career a year+ later. His season was not likely over. Surgery was avoidable. The source was partially correct with hindsight but it took 18 months and an entire full next season and 4 playoff rounds for it to unfold that way. His career ending after the 2020 bubble would have leant more credibility to the "his future is in question report" but he played a full season and 4 more playoff rounds after that report which was put out there as a "Shea Weber needs to have surgery and retire right now" in the winter of 2020 which was 100% false.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 6, 2022 11:34:13 GMT -4
He apologized to Weber for putting out the info, but he wasn't wrong... Nick Kypreos @realkyper Sources say Shea Weber injury has his season likely over and his future in question. Told injury is related to foot that was surgically repaired in 2018. While waiting for swelling to alleviate and further confirmation, surgery seemed unavoidable going into this week. @nhl #weber 1:52 PM · Feb 12, 2020·Twitter for iPhone Weber decided to keep playing with the pain and recurring swelling, and it ended his career a year+ later. His season was not likely over. Surgery was avoidable. The source was partially correct with hindsight but it took 18 months and an entire full next season and 4 playoff rounds for it to unfold that way. His career ending after the 2020 bubble would have leant more credibility to the "his future is in question report" but he played a full season and 4 more playoff rounds after that report which was put out there as a "Shea Weber needs to have surgery and retire right now" in the winter of 2020 which was 100% false. It was a career threatening injury, Weber decided to play through it instead of surgery.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 6, 2022 12:26:46 GMT -4
His season was not likely over. Surgery was avoidable. The source was partially correct with hindsight but it took 18 months and an entire full next season and 4 playoff rounds for it to unfold that way. His career ending after the 2020 bubble would have leant more credibility to the "his future is in question report" but he played a full season and 4 more playoff rounds after that report which was put out there as a "Shea Weber needs to have surgery and retire right now" in the winter of 2020 which was 100% false. It was a career threatening injury, Weber decided to play through it instead of surgery. Meaning the source and report were wrong. Surgery wasn't imminent if he was able to play through it for 18 months. Was it possible? Sure. But thats not what was reported. His 19-20 season wasn't likely over at all he not only finished it but played a full 20-21. Everyone knew by the end of the 2021 run that he was on his last legs because of the injury and past surgery and issues he was having but Kypreos didn't say it may end his career after NEXT season...he went for the clickbait tweet of he's essentially done right now which was 18 months too soon and therefore not accurate.
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Post by bois on Jul 6, 2022 13:01:17 GMT -4
instead of arguing about his Weber stuff
answer the question... who pays any attention to Nick Kypreos these days?
also i'm considering not buying groceries this week and running with my current supply of rice, pasta and canned goods..... i'm also considering buying steak..... both will turn out to be right in the future
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 7, 2022 9:51:38 GMT -4
Would be a big piece for Ottawa...as much for experience as for skill...
Pierre LeBrun @pierrevlebrun · 3m Still lots to play out over the next 6-7 days obviously, but I do believe the Ottawa Senators will emerge has a legitimate option, among other teams, for Claude Giroux when the market opens next Wednesday. I think the Sens will put their best foot forward in trying to sign him.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jul 7, 2022 10:13:52 GMT -4
Would be a big piece for Ottawa...as much for experience as for skill... Pierre LeBrun @pierrevlebrun · 3m Still lots to play out over the next 6-7 days obviously, but I do believe the Ottawa Senators will emerge has a legitimate option, among other teams, for Claude Giroux when the market opens next Wednesday. I think the Sens will put their best foot forward in trying to sign him. Hard to not question where Giroux's head is. Took a deal to Florida over Colorado. Now he's going to sign in Ottawa? Basically has made a ton of money and can pick where he wants to go and he's taking a retirement package from perhaps the most mediocre franchise in the league? Maybe i'm one of the only ones who don't exactly think their rebuild is all the media drums it up to be but how do you not take the chance to try and win right now? Give me McDavids wing at a discount for a season or 2...or shotgun to MacKinnon as a Kadri replacement at a lower cost...or 3-4 other obviously better opportunities.
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Post by JEagle on Jul 7, 2022 10:29:52 GMT -4
Would be a big piece for Ottawa...as much for experience as for skill... Pierre LeBrun @pierrevlebrun · 3m Still lots to play out over the next 6-7 days obviously, but I do believe the Ottawa Senators will emerge has a legitimate option, among other teams, for Claude Giroux when the market opens next Wednesday. I think the Sens will put their best foot forward in trying to sign him. Hard to not question where Giroux's head is. Took a deal to Florida over Colorado. Now he's going to sign in Ottawa? Basically has made a ton of money and can pick where he wants to go and he's taking a retirement package from perhaps the most mediocre franchise in the league? Maybe i'm one of the only ones who don't exactly think their rebuild is all the media drums it up to be but how do you not take the chance to try and win right now? Give me McDavids wing at a discount for a season or 2...or shotgun to MacKinnon as a Kadri replacement at a lower cost...or 3-4 other obviously better opportunities. While I agree apparently he chose Florida over Colorado last season cause he wanted to stay in the Eastern Conference for family reasons now as a free agent he probably wants to do the same.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 7, 2022 10:36:20 GMT -4
Would be a big piece for Ottawa...as much for experience as for skill... Pierre LeBrun @pierrevlebrun · 3m Still lots to play out over the next 6-7 days obviously, but I do believe the Ottawa Senators will emerge has a legitimate option, among other teams, for Claude Giroux when the market opens next Wednesday. I think the Sens will put their best foot forward in trying to sign him. Hard to not question where Giroux's head is. Took a deal to Florida over Colorado. Now he's going to sign in Ottawa? Basically has made a ton of money and can pick where he wants to go and he's taking a retirement package from perhaps the most mediocre franchise in the league? Maybe i'm one of the only ones who don't exactly think their rebuild is all the media drums it up to be but how do you not take the chance to try and win right now? Give me McDavids wing at a discount for a season or 2...or shotgun to MacKinnon as a Kadri replacement at a lower cost...or 3-4 other obviously better opportunities. Very few contenders can afford to pay a guy like that 5-7M a year.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 7, 2022 10:48:58 GMT -4
Pierre LeBrun @pierrevlebrun · 53s Minnesota, Toronto, Colorado (if Kuemper doesn’t sign), Washington and perhaps Pittsburgh all possibilities for Marc-Andre Fleury ahead of next Wednesday’s market opening. Obviously the Wild hope to re-sign him before that happens.
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