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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 2, 2023 11:04:26 GMT -4
Outside of Vasilevskiy who is a playoff goalie? The NHL has like 3 elite goaltenders and 25 guys of a similar calibre. If you have not drafted and developed a Vasileksiy or Shesterkin there is no way to add one during a season. If I was Toronto I would try and get Quick from CBJ and send Murray back. Might be expensive due to Murray's 23-24 cap hit. Why? Quick has been awful this year. Murray has been very good when healthy and is ready to return and isn't even relied on the be the #1. I get the argument in adding a depth guy but thats the Michael Hutchinsons of the NHL...not a past his prime Quick who would have been in the AHL if not for his legacy in LA.
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Post by bois on Mar 2, 2023 11:35:59 GMT -4
Quick as a backup would be far preferable to Murray IMO
But i doubt they bother doing that..... thought I read somewhere that a Western team has interest in Quick if they can make the deal work.... Vegas I believe
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 2, 2023 11:53:01 GMT -4
Quick as a backup would be far preferable to Murray IMO But i doubt they bother doing that..... thought I read somewhere that a Western team has interest in Quick if they can make the deal work.... Vegas I believe .876 save % and 3.50 GAA 11-13-4 on a 34-20-8 team. He was a franchise player for them and they tossed him aside because of how poorly he's been playing. How is that far preferable vs Murray who is at .911 and 2.76 11-5-2 this season. You have a much better idea of what to expect from Murray then you do Quick.
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Post by bois on Mar 2, 2023 11:58:06 GMT -4
Quick as a backup would be far preferable to Murray IMO But i doubt they bother doing that..... thought I read somewhere that a Western team has interest in Quick if they can make the deal work.... Vegas I believe .876 save % and 3.50 GAA 11-13-4 on a 34-20-8 team. He was a franchise player for them and they tossed him aside because of how poorly he's been playing. How is that far preferable vs Murray who is at .911 and 2.76 11-5-2 this season. You have a much better idea of what to expect from Murray then you do Quick. It's my opinion Quick isn't always goin on IR plus he's pissed off and has a stellar playoff track record like i said it wont matter likely as I doubt Toronto does that but my opinion is i'd rather a backup you can trust to not pull the chute ... Matt Murray is clearly a headcase
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Post by Score on Mar 6, 2023 15:06:21 GMT -4
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 6, 2023 15:40:32 GMT -4
I guess if your deadline acquisitions are going to get hurt the game after the deadline is when it should happen? I can already see him winning faceoffs then being unable to handle a pass in round 1...
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 8, 2023 10:23:30 GMT -4
Brutal west coast trip....travel all the way to NJ to play without Tavares and O'Rielly. Even Leaf homer O'Dogg had this as a NJ blowout as all the conditions lined up for NJ to dominate.
Leafs end up beating a contender who made the biggest deadline splash in regulation.
Probably the biggest win of the season.
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Post by jimmy on Apr 10, 2023 17:35:14 GMT -4
Leafs are playing a dangerous game with their goalies ... best case they are riding Samsonov hard down the stretch in a bunch of meaningless games. Worst case?? Panthers are desperate for a win, fighting for their playoff lives - knowing full well the Leafs are dressing an EBUG again tonight ... would it be a shock if their game plan involved lots of crashing the net? Wanna bet Tkachuk can find a way to get himself pushed on top of Samsonov??
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 13, 2023 12:24:31 GMT -4
Dubas using the EBUG's to his full advantage here to wrap it up...Samuel Richard from UNB backing up tonight in NY in the meaningless game 82 with Woll starting to give Samsonov a week off ahead of game 1.
This will either cause the league to look to relax the roster/cap stuff around goaltenders or completely try and come down on teams leaving themselves in this position because of the fact that they can which is basically what the Leafs have done the past 2 weeks.
Samsonov should have been forced to dress unless whatever he's dealing with is serious.
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 13, 2023 18:55:38 GMT -4
Dubas using the EBUG's to his full advantage here to wrap it up...Samuel Richard from UNB backing up tonight in NY in the meaningless game 82 with Woll starting to give Samsonov a week off ahead of game 1. This will either cause the league to look to relax the roster/cap stuff around goaltenders or completely try and come down on teams leaving themselves in this position because of the fact that they can which is basically what the Leafs have done the past 2 weeks. Samsonov should have been forced to dress unless whatever he's dealing with is serious. The rules are the rules, I have no problem with teams taking advantage of how a rule is written. The reality is that the flat cap has put a bunch of teams right against the cap and they can’t do anything about it because that’s how the CBA is written.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 13, 2023 23:08:26 GMT -4
Dubas using the EBUG's to his full advantage here to wrap it up...Samuel Richard from UNB backing up tonight in NY in the meaningless game 82 with Woll starting to give Samsonov a week off ahead of game 1. This will either cause the league to look to relax the roster/cap stuff around goaltenders or completely try and come down on teams leaving themselves in this position because of the fact that they can which is basically what the Leafs have done the past 2 weeks. Samsonov should have been forced to dress unless whatever he's dealing with is serious. The rules are the rules, I have no problem with teams taking advantage of how a rule is written. The reality is that the flat cap has put a bunch of teams right against the cap and they can’t do anything about it because that’s how the CBA is written. The next CBA they can force teams to keep a certain amount of cap room the last 5-10 games in cases like this...
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Post by scotiahockey on Apr 14, 2023 0:17:46 GMT -4
The rules are the rules, I have no problem with teams taking advantage of how a rule is written. The reality is that the flat cap has put a bunch of teams right against the cap and they can’t do anything about it because that’s how the CBA is written. The next CBA they can force teams to keep a certain amount of cap room the last 5-10 games in cases like this... What’s the problem though? They were never going to play Samsonov in these games, so instead of Kallgren or whatever goalie they have in the AHL available coming up to sit on the bench, they signed a few kids to amateur tryouts to sit on the bench. The results of the games weren’t impacted by these guys. Could they be? I suppose but the kid sitting on the end of the bench really isn’t a big deal. Plus it’s not like they were signing kids out of high school who never faced high levels of competition. They’re not NHL goalies but they’re not David Ayres either, these were kids in the OHL/CIS.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 14, 2023 6:17:01 GMT -4
The next CBA they can force teams to keep a certain amount of cap room the last 5-10 games in cases like this... What’s the problem though? They were never going to play Samsonov in these games, so instead of Kallgren or whatever goalie they have in the AHL available coming up to sit on the bench, they signed a few kids to amateur tryouts to sit on the bench. The results of the games weren’t impacted by these guys. Could they be? I suppose but the kid sitting on the end of the bench really isn’t a big deal. Plus it’s not like they were signing kids out of high school who never faced high levels of competition. They’re not NHL goalies but they’re not David Ayres either, these were kids in the OHL/CIS. In this case, no, but the concern is it becomes a trend and impacts important games.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 14, 2023 6:28:29 GMT -4
So it's Toronto vs TB...might be the most important series for TML in like 20 years...if they lose again, heads may roll and huge changes may happen on the ice as well with Matthews and Nylander 2024 UFA's and Tavares and Marner in 2025...
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 14, 2023 8:04:39 GMT -4
Dubas using the EBUG's to his full advantage here to wrap it up...Samuel Richard from UNB backing up tonight in NY in the meaningless game 82 with Woll starting to give Samsonov a week off ahead of game 1. This will either cause the league to look to relax the roster/cap stuff around goaltenders or completely try and come down on teams leaving themselves in this position because of the fact that they can which is basically what the Leafs have done the past 2 weeks. Samsonov should have been forced to dress unless whatever he's dealing with is serious. The rules are the rules, I have no problem with teams taking advantage of how a rule is written. The reality is that the flat cap has put a bunch of teams right against the cap and they can’t do anything about it because that’s how the CBA is written. I agree but it always seems like when certain teams use the rules like that as they are intended there's this closer scrutiny on whether it should be allowed to happen that way. The solution to this is a simple one for me especially with the cap taking a jump soon...just allow a cap exempt 3rd goaltender so NHL playoff spots are not decided by a Toronto with nothing to gain and nothing to lose ending up with an EBUG in net against a #8 seed in game 81.
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