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Post by nsvees on May 6, 2023 13:03:03 GMT -4
So Halifax is picking 50th and 110 in the Euro draft. I kept saying around 50 didn’t know it was going to be 50 bang on. Now when the pick actually comes around my guess it will be more around 45. You have to think at least 5 teams pass. And there’s no way their second pick will actually be over 100. My guess is, if they use it I might add, it will be around 75 maybe. I deleted my post to start the other CHL thread, so the moderators can delete it completely if they so wish to.
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Post by canbeer on May 6, 2023 14:44:39 GMT -4
So from the sounds of it Biasca is moving on, is that what we're assuming? If Whynot wasn't returning I could see a path for Moravec as a 20 but I'm not sure how probable that is. He has more upside though, wouldn't mind him as a 20 but still think it's a bit unlikely.
So heading into what's probably going to be called a contending year the Moose could use two Euros and I imagine would prefer two forwards. Considering that, the makeup of the team and the picks I could see them inquiring about a guy like Repcik. Not big numbers but there's upside there, he's got size, plays two way and would be a solid middle six addition and I think the cost could be reasonable.
Wondering what others would like to see them do with the euro and 20s
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Post by statsman18 on May 6, 2023 16:54:23 GMT -4
So from the sounds of it Biasca is moving on, is that what we're assuming? If Whynot wasn't returning I could see a path for Moravec as a 20 but I'm not sure how probable that is. He has more upside though, wouldn't mind him as a 20 but still think it's a bit unlikely. So heading into what's probably going to be called a contending year the Moose could use two Euros and I imagine would prefer two forwards. Considering that, the makeup of the team and the picks I could see them inquiring about a guy like Repcik. Not big numbers but there's upside there, he's got size, plays two way and would be a solid middle six addition and I think the cost could be reasonable. Wondering what others would like to see them do with the euro and 20s I thought there was a chance Whynot could sign, but the broken foot and lack of playing in the playoffs pretty much guarantee’s he’ll be back. Moravec as a 20 if Whynot was not back would be a smart play. I think you let Moravec go maybe trade him because some team might be interested in him. Some might say trade Whynot but I’d rather have an open Eruo spot then using it on a 20 year old defender. The whole Biasca talk I wonder if there’s some Theo Rochette similarities. He signed with some euro team just before the season but still ended up back in Quebec. Someone can look up what happened there because I’m lazy and don’t remember exactly. I hope this is the case and they end up With Biasca and Whynot as 2 20’s. The 3rd 20 they could look at left overs from Gatineau, Quebec and even Sherbrooke. They could get a quality one from them for cheap. I think with pick 50 Cam goes after an 18 or 19yo euro forward. With the world Jr’s being here plus Cam being a GM for the U18 team he might be able to get someone no one thought he could. Who that is I have no clue. He might be able to find a second diamond in the ruff with the 110 because of his position. I still think the world Jr’s is a huge selling point for the Moose because how well it was received.
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Post by Herd Fan on May 6, 2023 22:57:38 GMT -4
I am not sure what way the Moose will sway on the Euros in this, but here are my thoughts which are not worth much. Whynot has thrown a wrench into the plan. There is zero chance he will be moving up to the next level based off the year he just had. Where does that leave him? He is in and out of the line up more then anybody I can think of in the Q. This leaves many doubts in most teams intel. I have heard in the rink from many different non credible sources that Biasca will not be back next year. He will stay in Europe and go pro? Accurate? I have no idea. So.........that leaves Moravec as a Euro and a 20. I think that Cam Russell wants to go for it again next year. Hmmm does Moravec fit into that scenario? I personally dont think so, but they may be left with no other options. The 20's no question will be crucial to Russell's plan for next year. He is so patient, that at xmas, he will play his hand again and he will no doubt come up with another gem to help the Moose sail deep into the playoffs. I cant leave this post without saying how crucial Rousseau has been in the playoffs. This Halifax Moosehead's team has left the hockey world scratching their heads given the first 2 games in this series. Rousseau has been unbelievable. Bailed our team out time and time and time again. MVP!!! Massive game tomorrow night. I really hope the Moose can dig deep and figure out a way to close this out now. Toughest game of them all tomorrow night. Phoenix will be playing in desperation. This is when the Moose have to be on their best behaviour. ZL'H, that means you too!!! Lets go Moose!!!
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Post by coleminer on May 7, 2023 11:53:09 GMT -4
I have heard in the rink from many different non credible sources that Biasca will not be back next year...Cam Russell wants to go for it again next year. Don't listen to anyone until you hear from credible sources. I'm chalking it up as BS until official. Cam Russell likely doesn't decide the direction for next season, would assume that is ownership and they delegate the trades to him.
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on May 7, 2023 13:29:55 GMT -4
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Post by sc74 on May 7, 2023 13:49:23 GMT -4
According to Swiss sources Rochette was rumored to go play there for the past 3 seasons!
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Post by sc74 on May 7, 2023 14:48:24 GMT -4
So from the sounds of it Biasca is moving on, is that what we're assuming? If Whynot wasn't returning I could see a path for Moravec as a 20 but I'm not sure how probable that is. He has more upside though, wouldn't mind him as a 20 but still think it's a bit unlikely. So heading into what's probably going to be called a contending year the Moose could use two Euros and I imagine would prefer two forwards. Considering that, the makeup of the team and the picks I could see them inquiring about a guy like Repcik. Not big numbers but there's upside there, he's got size, plays two way and would be a solid middle six addition and I think the cost could be reasonable. Wondering what others would like to see them do with the euro and 20s I thought there was a chance Whynot could sign, but the broken foot and lack of playing in the playoffs pretty much guarantee’s he’ll be back. Moravec as a 20 if Whynot was not back would be a smart play. I think you let Moravec go maybe trade him because some team might be interested in him. Some might say trade Whynot but I’d rather have an open Eruo spot then using it on a 20 year old defender. The whole Biasca talk I wonder if there’s some Theo Rochette similarities. He signed with some euro team just before the season but still ended up back in Quebec. Someone can look up what happened there because I’m lazy and don’t remember exactly. I hope this is the case and they end up With Biasca and Whynot as 2 20’s. The 3rd 20 they could look at left overs from Gatineau, Quebec and even Sherbrooke. They could get a quality one from them for cheap. I think with pick 50 Cam goes after an 18 or 19yo euro forward. With the world Jr’s being here plus Cam being a GM for the U18 team he might be able to get someone no one thought he could. Who that is I have no clue. He might be able to find a second diamond in the ruff with the 110 because of his position. I still think the world Jr’s is a huge selling point for the Moose because how well it was received. Carolina still has not signed Robidas so he could be back as an OA. I think he'll be the top OA forward in the league. But his value won't be anything less than Lawrence's or Doucet's. It might even be higher.
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Post by statsman18 on May 7, 2023 20:26:31 GMT -4
According to Swiss sources Rochette was rumored to go play there for the past 3 seasons! This is exactly what I was talking about. This same thing has been talked about with Rochette and he’s got the C for Quebec. Also that article doesn’t say he has signed but he could look to go back. It’s just a rumour and until it not I think he’s the captain again next year.
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Post by canbeer on May 7, 2023 22:16:31 GMT -4
So from the sounds of it Biasca is moving on, is that what we're assuming? If Whynot wasn't returning I could see a path for Moravec as a 20 but I'm not sure how probable that is. He has more upside though, wouldn't mind him as a 20 but still think it's a bit unlikely. So heading into what's probably going to be called a contending year the Moose could use two Euros and I imagine would prefer two forwards. Considering that, the makeup of the team and the picks I could see them inquiring about a guy like Repcik. Not big numbers but there's upside there, he's got size, plays two way and would be a solid middle six addition and I think the cost could be reasonable. Wondering what others would like to see them do with the euro and 20s I thought there was a chance Whynot could sign, but the broken foot and lack of playing in the playoffs pretty much guarantee’s he’ll be back. Moravec as a 20 if Whynot was not back would be a smart play. I think you let Moravec go maybe trade him because some team might be interested in him. Some might say trade Whynot but I’d rather have an open Eruo spot then using it on a 20 year old defender. The whole Biasca talk I wonder if there’s some Theo Rochette similarities. He signed with some euro team just before the season but still ended up back in Quebec. Someone can look up what happened there because I’m lazy and don’t remember exactly. I hope this is the case and they end up With Biasca and Whynot as 2 20’s. The 3rd 20 they could look at left overs from Gatineau, Quebec and even Sherbrooke. They could get a quality one from them for cheap. I think with pick 50 Cam goes after an 18 or 19yo euro forward. With the world Jr’s being here plus Cam being a GM for the U18 team he might be able to get someone no one thought he could. Who that is I have no clue. He might be able to find a second diamond in the ruff with the 110 because of his position. I still think the world Jr’s is a huge selling point for the Moose because how well it was received. I actually quite like the idea of Moravec if both Whynot and Biasca don’t return, but again it just seems unlikely. I expect Whynot back but can’t help but wonder if they don’t feel a little gun shy with him considering all the time missed. How the finals go may play a role in that conversation. If Biasca is back, great. If not I’d inquire about a guy like Repcik and a 20 like Mianscum. Pick 50, like you said, 18 or 19 year old forward. And they would left with a 3rd 20 year old slot to upgrade later, my thought is probably a higher end centre.
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Post by statsman18 on May 8, 2023 8:25:45 GMT -4
I thought there was a chance Whynot could sign, but the broken foot and lack of playing in the playoffs pretty much guarantee’s he’ll be back. Moravec as a 20 if Whynot was not back would be a smart play. I think you let Moravec go maybe trade him because some team might be interested in him. Some might say trade Whynot but I’d rather have an open Eruo spot then using it on a 20 year old defender. The whole Biasca talk I wonder if there’s some Theo Rochette similarities. He signed with some euro team just before the season but still ended up back in Quebec. Someone can look up what happened there because I’m lazy and don’t remember exactly. I hope this is the case and they end up With Biasca and Whynot as 2 20’s. The 3rd 20 they could look at left overs from Gatineau, Quebec and even Sherbrooke. They could get a quality one from them for cheap. I think with pick 50 Cam goes after an 18 or 19yo euro forward. With the world Jr’s being here plus Cam being a GM for the U18 team he might be able to get someone no one thought he could. Who that is I have no clue. He might be able to find a second diamond in the ruff with the 110 because of his position. I still think the world Jr’s is a huge selling point for the Moose because how well it was received. I actually quite like the idea of Moravec if both Whynot and Biasca don’t return, but again it just seems unlikely. I expect Whynot back but can’t help but wonder if they don’t feel a little gun shy with him considering all the time missed. How the finals go may play a role in that conversation. If Biasca is back, great. If not I’d inquire about a guy like Repcik and a 20 like Mianscum. Pick 50, like you said, 18 or 19 year old forward. And they would left with a 3rd 20 year old slot to upgrade later, my thought is probably a higher end centre. Here’s my thinking with Moravec. He served his purpose. I know that sounds pretty harsh and almost like he’s just an object but the expectation weren’t really high with him right. He came in and was a middle pairing shut down guy. The problem is now we have Schultz who has quietly become the top guy. We have Furlong, MacKinnon, Martin, Phillips and if Whynots back him too. When you just look at Moravec yeah you go he could/should be a 20yo euro in this league. But does he fit in Halifax? Looking at all the other names that will be back I’m going to say no we could use a 20yo spot and a euro spot more effectively especially if they want to try and run it back. Which I think this new ownership might want to do. I think they are loving this. The Repcik thought I just don’t think he works. He’s only been for a space filler in this league. The teams that he’s played for had a spot and why not try him, and he hasn’t really shown he’s more than that. Halifax is in a very interesting position when it comes to this euro draft. They just hosted the world Jr’s and the city showed up and showed what an amazing place it is to play hockey. Along with that we had an absolutely uncharacteristic Christmas time and it was mild that I’m sure players and teams were spoiled and seen the city and thought this is what winter in Canada is like. Next Cam is with the U18 team and gets to see the best U18 players in the world first hand. To the point he can easily talk as well. I know our 2nd pick is really 110 but I think they use it. With both of the guys we have being 20 I’m not 💯% on this but I thought they go on a protective list and we can pick 2 new guys too. If this is the case I think Cam grabs a guy from the U18 with 50 and a 19yo that might have been a 3rd liner at the World Jr’s.
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Post by Fryar on May 9, 2023 9:00:28 GMT -4
I actually quite like the idea of Moravec if both Whynot and Biasca don’t return, but again it just seems unlikely. I expect Whynot back but can’t help but wonder if they don’t feel a little gun shy with him considering all the time missed. How the finals go may play a role in that conversation. If Biasca is back, great. If not I’d inquire about a guy like Repcik and a 20 like Mianscum. Pick 50, like you said, 18 or 19 year old forward. And they would left with a 3rd 20 year old slot to upgrade later, my thought is probably a higher end centre. Here’s my thinking with Moravec. He served his purpose. I know that sounds pretty harsh and almost like he’s just an object but the expectation weren’t really high with him right. He came in and was a middle pairing shut down guy. The problem is now we have Schultz who has quietly become the top guy. We have Furlong, MacKinnon, Martin, Phillips and if Whynots back him too. When you just look at Moravec yeah you go he could/should be a 20yo euro in this league. But does he fit in Halifax? Looking at all the other names that will be back I’m going to say no we could use a 20yo spot and a euro spot more effectively especially if they want to try and run it back. Which I think this new ownership might want to do. I think they are loving this. The Repcik thought I just don’t think he works. He’s only been for a space filler in this league. The teams that he’s played for had a spot and why not try him, and he hasn’t really shown he’s more than that. Halifax is in a very interesting position when it comes to this euro draft. They just hosted the world Jr’s and the city showed up and showed what an amazing place it is to play hockey. Along with that we had an absolutely uncharacteristic Christmas time and it was mild that I’m sure players and teams were spoiled and seen the city and thought this is what winter in Canada is like. Next Cam is with the U18 team and gets to see the best U18 players in the world first hand. To the point he can easily talk as well. I know our 2nd pick is really 110 but I think they use it. With both of the guys we have being 20 I’m not 💯% on this but I thought they go on a protective list and we can pick 2 new guys too. If this is the case I think Cam grabs a guy from the U18 with 50 and a 19yo that might have been a 3rd liner at the World Jr’s. If Wynot comes back then that top 6, without Moravec, would rival any in the league next year.
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Post by statsman18 on May 9, 2023 10:59:23 GMT -4
I thought there was a chance Whynot could sign, but the broken foot and lack of playing in the playoffs pretty much guarantee’s he’ll be back. Moravec as a 20 if Whynot was not back would be a smart play. I think you let Moravec go maybe trade him because some team might be interested in him. Some might say trade Whynot but I’d rather have an open Eruo spot then using it on a 20 year old defender. The whole Biasca talk I wonder if there’s some Theo Rochette similarities. He signed with some euro team just before the season but still ended up back in Quebec. Someone can look up what happened there because I’m lazy and don’t remember exactly. I hope this is the case and they end up With Biasca and Whynot as 2 20’s. The 3rd 20 they could look at left overs from Gatineau, Quebec and even Sherbrooke. They could get a quality one from them for cheap. I think with pick 50 Cam goes after an 18 or 19yo euro forward. With the world Jr’s being here plus Cam being a GM for the U18 team he might be able to get someone no one thought he could. Who that is I have no clue. He might be able to find a second diamond in the ruff with the 110 because of his position. I still think the world Jr’s is a huge selling point for the Moose because how well it was received. Carolina still has not signed Robidas so he could be back as an OA. I think he'll be the top OA forward in the league. But his value won't be anything less than Lawrence's or Doucet's. It might even be higher. A Robidas move I don’t see happening till Christmas if it involves the Mooseheads. Cam wouldn’t even do a place holder style trade like Quebec did this year for him. He’d be the final piece type trade for him. After playing them I think Sherbrooke is a better fit to shop with. After watching them for 6 games straight I really think Roelens would be a great fit. Huge body and is good at face offs, and was around a point per game this year. Depending on Biasca and if he doesn’t come back I’d like to see Cam try and get him at the draft. If we do t have Biasca going into next year with Roelens and Whynot as the 20’s would be a good start. If they are a contender I could see Cam going after either Gill or Robidas then. A lot has to play out first. What does the euro draft look like? How does Peitzsche and Crosby progress? If they’re only slightly better this team isn’t a contender. They both need to be 2nd line guys that are 20 to 25 goal scorers for this team to be a serious contender. We also need to see the progression of Todd, Welsh and Fontaine all progress too. They don’t need to be anything special but all good 3rd liners is key. Also the New euro is he around a point per game guy too, or is he a dud? Also a small thing we need to find a backup goalie. My guess is we draft him in. In saying all the unkowns we do know we will have the top offensive line in Cataford, Vidicek and Dumais. Great defence with minimum 5 returnees from the current playoff lineup. And then there Rousseau.
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Post by statsman18 on May 9, 2023 11:01:25 GMT -4
Here’s my thinking with Moravec. He served his purpose. I know that sounds pretty harsh and almost like he’s just an object but the expectation weren’t really high with him right. He came in and was a middle pairing shut down guy. The problem is now we have Schultz who has quietly become the top guy. We have Furlong, MacKinnon, Martin, Phillips and if Whynots back him too. When you just look at Moravec yeah you go he could/should be a 20yo euro in this league. But does he fit in Halifax? Looking at all the other names that will be back I’m going to say no we could use a 20yo spot and a euro spot more effectively especially if they want to try and run it back. Which I think this new ownership might want to do. I think they are loving this. The Repcik thought I just don’t think he works. He’s only been for a space filler in this league. The teams that he’s played for had a spot and why not try him, and he hasn’t really shown he’s more than that. Halifax is in a very interesting position when it comes to this euro draft. They just hosted the world Jr’s and the city showed up and showed what an amazing place it is to play hockey. Along with that we had an absolutely uncharacteristic Christmas time and it was mild that I’m sure players and teams were spoiled and seen the city and thought this is what winter in Canada is like. Next Cam is with the U18 team and gets to see the best U18 players in the world first hand. To the point he can easily talk as well. I know our 2nd pick is really 110 but I think they use it. With both of the guys we have being 20 I’m not 💯% on this but I thought they go on a protective list and we can pick 2 new guys too. If this is the case I think Cam grabs a guy from the U18 with 50 and a 19yo that might have been a 3rd liner at the World Jr’s. If Wynot comes back then that top 6, without Moravec, would rival any in the league next year. Rival I don’t think is the word. I think “better” or “best” especially when you add the goalie that would be returning.
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Post by sc74 on May 9, 2023 11:04:57 GMT -4
Carolina still has not signed Robidas so he could be back as an OA. I think he'll be the top OA forward in the league. But his value won't be anything less than Lawrence's or Doucet's. It might even be higher. A Robidas move I don’t see happening till Christmas if it involves the Mooseheads. Cam wouldn’t even do a place holder style trade like Quebec did this year for him. He’d be the final piece type trade for him. After playing them I think Sherbrooke is a better fit to shop with. After watching them for 6 games straight I really think Roelens would be a great fit. Huge body and is good at face offs, and was around a point per game this year. Depending on Biasca and if he doesn’t come back I’d like to see Cam try and get him at the draft. If we do t have Biasca going into next year with Roelens and Whynot as the 20’s would be a good start. If they are a contender I could see Cam going after either Gill or Robidas then. A lot has to play out first. What does the euro draft look like? How does Peitzsche and Crosby progress? If they’re only slightly better this team isn’t a contender. They both need to be 2nd line guys that are 20 to 25 goal scorers for this team to be a serious contender. We also need to see the progression of Todd, Welsh and Fontaine all progress too. They don’t need to be anything special but all good 3rd liners is key. Also the New euro is he around a point per game guy too, or is he a dud? Also a small thing we need to find a backup goalie. My guess is we draft him in. In saying all the unkowns we do know we will have the top offensive line in Cataford, Vidicek and Dumais. Great defence with minimum 5 returnees from the current playoff lineup. And then there Rousseau. Rumour has hit. Both Gill and Roelens are already futures in other trades.
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