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Post by hfxfan09 on Apr 4, 2023 20:40:23 GMT -4
I'd love to hear your reason why you lost tonight? I'm pretty sure the tying goal Sat was not kicked in my friend was in Sec 4 and said it definitely was not kicked in. Also a few minutes before we won a goal should have counted, because I'm pretty sure a goal counts when the opposing player is pushed into the net by your own player, Fans behind me said the same thing. (Only factor could have been when the Whistle went).
You guys have given us a good battle, and I expect tomorrow night on the brink of elimination won't be any walk in the park.
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Post by sherwood1020 on Apr 4, 2023 20:42:23 GMT -4
That was fucking embarrassing
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Post by sherwood1020 on Apr 4, 2023 21:01:52 GMT -4
I'll try to hold back from any profanity going forward but it's pretty bad when Saint John can come home and knock off Gatineau to make it a 2-1 series but we come out and piss away leads in 2 straight games to go down 3-0. Just sickening.
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Post by hal on Apr 4, 2023 21:14:29 GMT -4
You go in The Box against these Guys and it's Goodnight Effy . Goyens doesn't show a lot of life back there does he ?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2023 22:09:44 GMT -4
I'd love to hear your reason why you lost tonight? I'm pretty sure the tying goal Sat was not kicked in my friend was in Sec 4 and said it definitely was not kicked in. Also a few minutes before we won a goal should have counted, because I'm pretty sure a goal counts when the opposing player is pushed into the net by your own player, Fans behind me said the same thing. (Only factor could have been when the Whistle went). You guys have given us a good battle, and I expect tomorrow night on the brink of elimination won't be any walk in the park. The other team scored more goals. So we lost. Thats how it works. Don't be an idiot. Do you really want us polluting your game threads with jabs at you if you lose in round 2 or 3?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2023 22:41:37 GMT -4
I was sitting there ahead of the game...scanning the crowd...thinking that coming off 2 hard fought losses this could really be the start of something with a big win. Finally the chance to see a big effort in front of a big crowd and maybe pull out a big win. A 2-1 series with another big and loud building tomorrow? Maybe we can put a scare into this contender we're up against I thought...then the game started.
The signs of implosion were there in the first but some puck luck and favorable officiating had us in a 1-0 lead after 1. Ruccia was solid and looked to have rebounded well from how game 2 ended.
And then the 2nd period happened. Completely outclassed. The contender had finally shown up and we had nothing to push back with. In a league with no physicality, its hard to find that spark to change momentum once an experienced team turns it up like Halifax did. 3 50 goal scorers means if you start taking penalties...you're done. And we were.
I don't want to pile on any of the players as I actually don't think the score was totally reflective of their effort but once a team Halifax has deep decides it's going to up its intensity we need to play perfect to compete and we certainly didn't do that. But that doesn't mean they all should get a free pass...at least 1 veteran looked like they were ready for the off season to start by the end of it from my perspective.
Great to see how some of the younger guys have played. But its still a tough loss to digest considering what the opposite could have meant and what 3-0 means against a team like that. But the Lavoie's and Squires are seeing what top end talent needs to do to win in this league.
I don't anticipate the token game 4 win tomorrow. I think we see another strong effort to start but the experience and talent end up being the difference again.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 4, 2023 22:59:57 GMT -4
The attendance number should be the clearest sign yet that in spite of all the losing and some of the questionable moves...there's still a fan base here that wants to support this team and product.
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Apr 5, 2023 7:44:20 GMT -4
Great to see how some of the younger guys have played. But its still a tough loss to digest considering what the opposite could have meant and what 3-0 means against a team like that. But the Lavoie's and Squires are seeing what top end talent needs to do to win in this league. The matchup is tough. And they have pushed Halifax more than people expected. This is about what the legacy of this will be. The players will learn what it takes (for that matter I think Halifax is getting a crash course reminder what it takes) but can this brand of Eagles hockey - the good part - become an identity? Teams needs an identity. If they play like they did most of the starts of this series and can refine that it's a good identity. Not an easy 2 points to play them. And they should get better for having gone through this.
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Post by emerz on Apr 5, 2023 7:52:23 GMT -4
Crowd was solid, thought we actually had a decent chance after the first 20, arguably outplayed the moose for long stretches but you literally can't take a penalty against them or they'll kill you on the powerplay every time.
Speaking of the penalty kill... the Eagles players don't even move they just kind of chill and wave their sticks at the Moose while they make plays, whoever is coaching that needs to reevaluate because it is just terrible against a team of highly skilled scorers, doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.
I was hoping for the young guys to get a few more playoff games in but I can't see this one heading back to Halifax 3-1.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 9:14:39 GMT -4
Crowd was solid, thought we actually had a decent chance after the first 20, arguably outplayed the moose for long stretches but you literally can't take a penalty against them or they'll kill you on the powerplay every time. Speaking of the penalty kill... the Eagles players don't even move they just kind of chill and wave their sticks at the Moose while they make plays, whoever is coaching that needs to reevaluate because it is just terrible against a team of highly skilled scorers, doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that. I was hoping for the young guys to get a few more playoff games in but I can't see this one heading back to Halifax 3-1. 100% agree, way to passive on the PK.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2023 9:35:51 GMT -4
Great to see how some of the younger guys have played. But its still a tough loss to digest considering what the opposite could have meant and what 3-0 means against a team like that. But the Lavoie's and Squires are seeing what top end talent needs to do to win in this league. The matchup is tough. And they have pushed Halifax more than people expected. This is about what the legacy of this will be. The players will learn what it takes (for that matter I think Halifax is getting a crash course reminder what it takes) but can this brand of Eagles hockey - the good part - become an identity? Teams needs an identity. If they play like they did most of the starts of this series and can refine that it's a good identity. Not an easy 2 points to play them. And they should get better for having gone through this. So what exactly would be the "identity" you are referring too? Effort, in your face, hard to play against? One the biggest cliches in hockey is a team playing to an identity. Every team at every level should have the same fundamental identity of effort, team work, skill and passion. The key differences should be in how the Coach uses these fundamental building blocks to win hockey games. I don't think you can look at 3 good periods and pin an identity on this group, the moment the going gets tough we sink into some sort of defensive trap that tries desperately to keep a very skilled team to the outside. Our identity changes as the game changes, it's a reflection of a coach who has no clear plan on how he wants to execute over a full 60 mins. Everything is purely reactionary to what the other team is doing. If you want to talk identity, then own it, don't change it the moment the score board changes. I think the resume of getting real close but never actually crossing the line speaks volumes about what we have seen on the ice this season.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 5, 2023 10:09:29 GMT -4
The matchup is tough. And they have pushed Halifax more than people expected. This is about what the legacy of this will be. The players will learn what it takes (for that matter I think Halifax is getting a crash course reminder what it takes) but can this brand of Eagles hockey - the good part - become an identity? Teams needs an identity. If they play like they did most of the starts of this series and can refine that it's a good identity. Not an easy 2 points to play them. And they should get better for having gone through this. So what exactly would be the "identity" you are referring too? Effort, in your face, hard to play against? One the biggest cliches in hockey is a team playing to an identity. Every team at every level should have the same fundamental identity of effort, team work, skill and passion. The key differences should be in how the Coach uses these fundamental building blocks to win hockey games. I don't think you can look at 3 good periods and pin an identity on this group, the moment the going gets tough we sink into some sort of defensive trap that tries desperately to keep a very skilled team to the outside. Our identity changes as the game changes, it's a reflection of a coach who has no clear plan on how he wants to execute over a full 60 mins. Everything is purely reactionary to what the other team is doing. If you want to talk identity, then own it, don't change it the moment the score board changes. I think the resume of getting real close but never actually crossing the line speaks volumes about what we have seen on the ice this season. I get his point but also mostly agree with you. Every small town in Canada wants their local hockey team to be this same cliche'd "hardest working bunch" that "represents our towns hard working attitude" as if its some unique trait only found in that region. But I also think there are certain traits you look to identify in the scouting and evaluation process that puts more of a focus on harder working kids or kids with great school habits...beyond just the goals and assists. And that if you do that...there's a higher chance you start to develop the kids who by 18 and 19 are leaders playing above where they were projected 2-3 years ago. But in a league with such rapid turnover like this I think it is more important to not waiver from that plan unless your results force it. We had a lot of turnover and some good and some bad. Some good and bad were in the same decisions in many ways as well. The team who looked incredible last night...has had perhaps the least turnover in the Q if not the entire CHL. You need to draft extremely well to build a contender that way so not saying its what we or anyone else should replicate to that same degree but we should get to a point of targeting certain roles vs swapping similarly aged players for the sake of change. I don't think this Eagles team has much to identify them beyond what at the end was a talented and inconsistent bunch who never seemed to get a system down that could be executed properly. You could look at 3 solid periods in this series and say the Eagles can compete with a Halifax. But the other periods were mostly Halifax making CB look young and inexperienced. But developing the Fullerton's along with the Patterson's and Houde's...the guys not picked in the top 30 or so yet we need to fill key roles in future years...can start to become an identity. This core buying into a 2 way system that employs a hard forecheck and smothers a neutral zone can become an identity. But stability and good development will be a big part of accomplishing it.
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Post by justathought on Apr 5, 2023 10:40:42 GMT -4
Obviously, the penalty killing was a concern last night after holding Halifax to 1 goal in 7 opportunities in the first two games. However, just as concerning after a very solid start this season, the Power Play has continued to struggle lately going 1 for 10 in these 3 games.
Unfortunately, players taking bad penalties; in the offensive zone, behind the play and in retaliation, that we saw in game one that gave Halifax 5 power plays, came back to haunt the Eagles again last night and this has been a repeated concern this season at times. That is a problem that should have been corrected during the season.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 5, 2023 10:51:34 GMT -4
Obviously, the penalty killing was a concern last night after holding Halifax to 1 goal in 7 opportunities in the first two games. However, just as concerning after a very solid start this season, the Power Play has continued to struggle lately going 1 for 10 in these 3 games. Unfortunately, players taking bad penalties; in the offensive zone, behind the play and in retaliation, that we saw in game one that gave Halifax 5 power plays, came back to haunt the Eagles again last night and this has been a repeated concern this season at times. That is a problem that should have been corrected during the season. I thought it was a well officiated game with some bad decision making. I don't think any of understand where Thurston's head goes during some of these moments where a veteran needs to know we need him on the ice. But you're bang on...thats the stuff you need to eliminate for the playoffs. Those 2nd period interference penalties are penalties at any level.
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Post by JEagle on Apr 5, 2023 16:30:50 GMT -4
Looks like they're giving Satny the start in what could be his final game in the Q.
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