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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 8, 2023 18:44:28 GMT -4
There is a rumor that PLD wants 9M AAV...not sure I would trade two A assets for a guy then give him 9M AAV...his vale is around 7.75-8M on a long term deal IMO based on comparables.
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Post by Score on Jun 8, 2023 19:14:27 GMT -4
There is a rumor that PLD wants 9M AAV...not sure I would trade two A assets for a guy then give him 9M AAV...his vale is around 7.75-8M on a long term deal IMO based on comparables. I wouldn't pay him 9M....IMO, he's not worth that much. He's not going to come in and make more then Suzuki....maybe 7.5
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Post by scotiahockey on Jun 8, 2023 20:20:37 GMT -4
There is a rumor that PLD wants 9M AAV...not sure I would trade two A assets for a guy then give him 9M AAV...his vale is around 7.75-8M on a long term deal IMO based on comparables. I wouldn't pay him 9M....IMO, he's not worth that much. He's not going to come in and make more then Suzuki....maybe 7.5 6 years into his career, the guys asked for 2 trades already. Never scored 30 goals in a season or reached 65 points. Not strong on draws or great defensively. There’s a lot to like about him though, he’s big and he’s physical while playing a premium position and there’s no doubt in my mind, he’s going to get paid. I just wouldn’t want to be the team paying him like a #1 C when he’s never proven that he’s anything more then an inconsistent #2… you add in the 2 trade requests, 6 seasons into his career and if I’m a GM, I wouldn’t want to touch him at the price he likely wants and the way he’s conducted himself this far into his career.
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Post by jordo999 on Jun 8, 2023 21:03:54 GMT -4
I wouldn't pay him 9M....IMO, he's not worth that much. He's not going to come in and make more then Suzuki....maybe 7.5 6 years into his career, the guys asked for 2 trades already. Never scored 30 goals in a season or reached 65 points. Not strong on draws or great defensively. There’s a lot to like about him though, he’s big and he’s physical while playing a premium position and there’s no doubt in my mind, he’s going to get paid. I just wouldn’t want to be the team paying him like a #1 C when he’s never proven that he’s anything more then an inconsistent #2… you add in the 2 trade requests, 6 seasons into his career and if I’m a GM, I wouldn’t want to touch him at the price he likely wants and the way he’s conducted himself this far into his career. this^ as passionate as he is about Montreal and would maybe play his heart out for once if he ended up there, I think paying him 9m would be a mistake. 7-7.5 makes the most sense to me anyways.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 9, 2023 7:44:48 GMT -4
I wouldn't pay him 9M....IMO, he's not worth that much. He's not going to come in and make more then Suzuki....maybe 7.5 6 years into his career, the guys asked for 2 trades already. Never scored 30 goals in a season or reached 65 points. Not strong on draws or great defensively. There’s a lot to like about him though, he’s big and he’s physical while playing a premium position and there’s no doubt in my mind, he’s going to get paid. I just wouldn’t want to be the team paying him like a #1 C when he’s never proven that he’s anything more then an inconsistent #2… you add in the 2 trade requests, 6 seasons into his career and if I’m a GM, I wouldn’t want to touch him at the price he likely wants and the way he’s conducted himself this far into his career. I think you nailed it, he's a guy I would like to add to the current group but not at any cost. The defense and inconsistency should improve with maturity. He was on a 30G 70 point pace this season and faceoffs have improved to 49% during the season and 58% in the playoffs. The fact that he wants out and the cap is flat so many teams don't really have much room limits his trade value a bit. If he wants to play in Mtl he likely signs for less than as a UFA or a guy who would rather be elsewhere. I think the only logical conclusion is he gets traded and signs long term. Don't think he stays in Wpg unless offers are crap and they forced into a 1 year deal. Any team trading 2-3 quality assets will want a long term deal, not 1 year. The fact that Wpg doesn't want a rebuild means they will want an NHLer(s) plus NHL ready young players plus maybe a pick as sweetener.
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Post by bois on Jun 9, 2023 7:55:12 GMT -4
this is why i say stay away from the guy
to me he's not someone i want in my room with a bunch of kids..... character seems to be severely lacking
and no he aint worth anywhere close to 9 million
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Post by Score on Jun 13, 2023 18:20:21 GMT -4
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 13, 2023 19:29:35 GMT -4
With the injuries they have had the last 3 years they need new direction. Guys keep coming back and still be hurt or make things worse.
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Post by Score on Jun 15, 2023 6:10:30 GMT -4
Multiple reports have surfaced that suggest the Canadiens have reached out to San Jose Sharks about moving up to #4 in the draft & they've reached out to the Anaheim Ducks about trading up to the 2 spot.
Hughes also wants Smith..IMO. He knows him well (former coach of Smith) and his family.
Hughes also had a media presser last evening that's worth the watch.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 15, 2023 7:27:49 GMT -4
Multiple reports have surfaced that suggest the Canadiens have reached out to San Jose Sharks about moving up to #4 in the draft & they've reached out to the Anaheim Ducks about trading up to the 2 spot. Hughes also wants Smith..IMO. He knows him well (former coach of Smith) and his family. Hughes also had a media presser last evening that's worth the watch. I think at #3-4 he wants Smith but at 2 no way would they pass on Fantilli. Usually the cost to move up is too high. I could see them dangling the Fla 1st plus maybe a sweetener but not much more.
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Post by Score on Jun 16, 2023 13:53:26 GMT -4
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Post by Score on Jun 16, 2023 13:54:29 GMT -4
I know Lafrenière underachieved in NY.....for a couple reasons.
But if the Habs could snap him up at a low AVV and a 3yr deal, I wouldn't be upset.
Let him play left wing on the 2nd/3rd line to see what he can do.
Who knows. Maybe he would flourish in Quebec City.
He's also the age group that they would be looking for.
Dach has been much better playing under MSL, maybe Lafrenière will too.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 16, 2023 14:02:20 GMT -4
In a rebuild I would not do any buyouts... trade guys with retention, send them to Laval or trade them for a player in a similar situation.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 16, 2023 14:03:12 GMT -4
I know Lafrenière underachieved in NY.....for a couple reasons. But if the Habs could snap him up at a low AVV and a 3yr deal, I wouldn't be upset. Let him play left wing on the 2nd/3rd line to see what he can do. Who knows. Maybe he would flourish in Quebec City. He's also the age group that they would be looking for. Dach has been much better playing under MSL, maybe Lafrenière will too. I don't think the Habs are willing to pay what it would cost, NY probably still wants an early/mid 1st rounder.
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Post by scotiahockey on Jun 16, 2023 15:18:17 GMT -4
I know Lafrenière underachieved in NY.....for a couple reasons. But if the Habs could snap him up at a low AVV and a 3yr deal, I wouldn't be upset. Let him play left wing on the 2nd/3rd line to see what he can do. Who knows. Maybe he would flourish in Quebec City. He's also the age group that they would be looking for. Dach has been much better playing under MSL, maybe Lafrenière will too. I don't think the Habs are willing to pay what it would cost, NY probably still wants an early/mid 1st rounder. If the cost was a mid-first, I think I’d do that. He’s only 3 years into his NHL career, he’s proven he’s a capable NHLer. I wouldn’t do it if I’m Montreal though. I think the expectations would be way too high for Lafreniere from the media/fan base. I don’t think it’d be a good situation to send a kid trying to take the next step into that situation. I’d predict it’d be Drouin all over again from that perspective, just a young Quebecois kid that can’t live up to the expectations.
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