Roscoe
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Post by Roscoe on May 21, 2023 23:21:44 GMT -4
I have to start by saying it’s not that they lost it’s how they lost. That sucked. Simply put it was awesome for almost a minute and then the wind just completely sucked out of the sails. I wish the Mooseheads had called a time out after the go-ahead goal with 3 minutes left. Calm everyone down, get a plan together...
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rookieq
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Post by rookieq on May 21, 2023 23:30:17 GMT -4
True and I guess we do have lots of forwards that are still good Vidicek, Cataford, etc plus I trust Cam to draft good, and I think we can do it for our apparent go for it year I'm sure there will be lots of perks for our 30th anniversary season. Hard to make progress through the draft when the pick cupboard is bare... I agree, the next two years drafts are irrelevant. They need to trade up or down or trade existing players to get better. I don’t think that this coming draft will be as exciting as the least three…obviously we would like players like Dumais, Vidicek, Furlong, Cataford, Mckinnon…but i think it will be though to draft those candidates in 2nd and 3rd rounds
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Post by Herd Fan on May 22, 2023 0:28:25 GMT -4
Faaaack!!!! What a way to lose. Soooooooo frustrating. Quebec seemed to be the better team based off shots on et and puck possession. Quebec is a great team no doubt, but IMO, we were out coached. Remparts are an older, stronger team, but we had enough skill on our team to out wit out grit them. Our 20's are unmatched. It will be tough to ever see that caliber of 20's back on this team. Halifax coaching staff were simply outcoached. Guys like Furlong as good as he is, ran out of steam and ended up turning it over and costing us the series. Perfect example of being out coached. We are too deep on D to have him on the ice as much as he is. It is what it is unfortunately. Something to build off next year I guess.
Million dollar question is.......How in the world do we replace what is leaving this team? Most high end forwards are gone. On top of that,......Limited draft picks, Euro draft picks are 50 and later. Yikes!!! Not much upside here. How do we get back in position to make a run? I feel like we are up shit creek.......Please help someone. Or do I need to phone a friend? Where does Cam go with this?
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Post by bedfordscout on May 22, 2023 5:58:31 GMT -4
I agree with Statsman. The healthier team won. Aside from Biasca and Moravec, L'Heureux and Dumais (even though both played well) were playing injured. The teams were quite evenly matched. I felt a little less optimistic during the Sherbrooke series but Rousseau stood on his head and the Moose moved on.
I feel bad for Furlong. I thought he played extremely well during the playoffs. The turnover is part of the learning curve. He will be a stud D next year.
I'm amazed at their run this year. A few key pick ups at Christmas (Lawrence and Doucette) without breaking the bank demonstrated Cam's masterful GM skills. He should have been named the GM of the year considering where Halifax started and where they finished.
I like Favreau. Seemed like he was doing a lot of tweaking during periods that enabled the Moose to adjust to Sherbrooke and Quebec. He seemed to get a lot out of every player. It's tough to win when you have so many injured bodies and are leaning heavily on two lines.
So....in my view, great GM and coach with a ton of high end talent returning next year (not to mention likely the best goalie in the league). We won't improve through the Q draft (how many 16 year olds can immediately improve your team?) but we still have some picks/assets to add some high quality 20 year olds. I'm bullish on 2023-24.
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Post by howitzer on May 22, 2023 7:41:44 GMT -4
I agree with Statsman. The healthier team won. Aside from Biasca and Moravec, L'Heureux and Dumais (even though both played well) were playing injured. The teams were quite evenly matched. I felt a little less optimistic during the Sherbrooke series but Rousseau stood on his head and the Moose moved on. I feel bad for Furlong. I thought he played extremely well during the playoffs. The turnover is part of the learning curve. He will be a stud D next year. I'm amazed at their run this year. A few key pick ups at Christmas (Lawrence and Doucette) without breaking the bank demonstrated Cam's masterful GM skills. He should have been named the GM of the year considering where Halifax started and where they finished. I like Favreau. Seemed like he was doing a lot of tweaking during periods that enabled the Moose to adjust to Sherbrooke and Quebec. He seemed to get a lot out of every player. It's tough to win when you have so many injured bodies and are leaning heavily on two lines. So....in my view, great GM and coach with a ton of high end talent returning next year (not to mention likely the best goalie in the league). We won't improve through the Q draft (how many 16 year olds can immediately improve your team?) but we still have some picks/assets to add some high quality 20 year olds. I'm bullish on 2023-24. Agree on Furlong. He was a stud all playoffs. He'll think about that turnover all off-season. But he will come back and be a top 1-2 dman, and help lead what will probably be the best D core in the Q.
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Post by hockeydad on May 22, 2023 7:58:10 GMT -4
I feel more optimistic next year than what other posters are suggesting we will have a strong returning cast of d men and a top first line Cataford /Dumais /Vidicek a third line Crosby , Fourier and MacPhee a forth line of some studs on the farm Fontaine not to mention the best goalie in the league Rousseau . If Cam goes out and gets a second line made up of another 2 stud 20 year olds and + overager euro plus or top US player or Ontario junior pick we should be in a good place to vie for another championship run . It certainly doesn’t seem that far fetched as some might suggest !
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Post by justwinbaby on May 22, 2023 9:07:57 GMT -4
Dust has settled and that was a tough one but give Quebec credit they never panicked after we took the lead and IMO they dominated the third period they were there last year and learned and that’s what a veteran team can do!! You could not ask for more from our 20’s and L’heueux. Well done, thanks for all and best of luck in the future!! Furlong was a stud in the playoff and things happen, he proved he was one of the top D in the league thru the playoffs and you have to remember he is still in his 18 year old season!! What I did notice after the game was IMO two leaders of next years team staying and watching Quebec celebrate!! Furlong and Dumais stood together and watched!! You know they were hurting especially Furlong but they watched what it was like to celebrate!! That is tough to do but now they know and I believe they will come back more determined and better for it!!
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Post by statsman18 on May 22, 2023 9:33:45 GMT -4
I feel more optimistic next year than what other posters are suggesting we will have a strong returning cast of d men and a top first line Cataford /Dumais /Vidicek a third line Crosby , Fourier and MacPhee a forth line of some studs on the farm Fontaine not to mention the best goalie in the league Rousseau . If Cam goes out and gets a second line made up of another 2 stud 20 year olds and + overager euro plus or top US player or Ontario junior pick we should be in a good place to vie for another championship run . It certainly doesn’t seem that far fetched as some might suggest ! First off your optimistic view has Fournier as a 3rd line 20yo. That alone is not a good start. I agree with goaltending, defence and a top 3 of Dumais, Cataford and Vidicek. That’s a great start but with what they have up to bring in Doucet and Lawrence they left themselves a little light to get the extras they need. If this team is going to be good Fournier as a 20 shouldn’t make this team. This off season has a lot of unknowns. There’s a lot of talk about Biasca not coming back. He would be key player needed to contend. A guarantee overages who is a point per game guy would be huge. If he doesn’t come back what kind of player are we going to get at pick 50? Historically the players that come from that pick aren’t big time contributors right away. Then add if we have to use the 2nd pick at 115 I think it was. Not often those players become anything at all. So no Biasca my optimism lessens a bit on this team. Next Crosby, Peitzsche, have got to improve drastically this year for them to be good. They need to go from they have talent to they are a talented. If they finally find an American in the American draft that will report and is an actual contributor that would be a big add but it’s has yet to happen. Here’s the problem there’s more unknowns with the 23/24 team than there were with the 22/23 team. Last year it was who will be the 20s other than Boucher. Who’s the other euro going to be? That’s only 3 players we needed to worry about we now have L’Heureux, Lawrence, Doucet, Boucher, maybe Biasca to replace. All of whom scored 20 plus goals each as a Moosehead. That’s not a light task. Especially without a 1st rounder Nader till 2025.
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Post by howitzer on May 22, 2023 10:40:47 GMT -4
I'd look to move Whynot at the draft. Either for a pick or a player you could slot in your top 9 (prob 3rd line). Whynot was essentially a non factor down the stretch and throughout the playoff. Obviously he was injured, but it proved the team is deep enough and talented enough without him.
Schultz-Phillips Furlong-MacKinnon
That's your top 4. You're going to have a 20 yr old play #5? Or push Phillips/MacKinnon down? Those two need to play and deserve to play. Whynot would be a quality 20. But just not in Halifax.
Huard Jr would have been perfect for this team next year. A pt per game 20yr old caught in a numbers game. Paid an 8th rounder for him. Huard was a top 6 forward on most teams in the Q. Fingers crossed Cam can grab a guy like that this off-season.
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Post by bois on May 22, 2023 11:01:04 GMT -4
great season disappointing ending for sure
at least my team can say they lost to the league champions for like 4th season in a row now haha
i think you will see a big push to make next year your year...... i dunno how yet as that is something your fans can elaborate on much better but with the goaltending and defnse a virtual lock to all return and the leagues top scorer it simply makes sense to push ahead and go for it again
one think i would like to point out that nobody has mentioned that i saw yet tho was L'Heureux...... he calmed himself down all playoffs and was the impact player he was supposed to be until the very end..... did none of you see that slash he laid on Gaucher i think it was? a full baseball swing that if the Rempart player hadnt jumped to avoid best he could would have had a very bad outcome
I don't care if he consoled all his teammates and kissed the ice goodbye.... he went out a sore loser again
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Post by sc74 on May 22, 2023 11:07:54 GMT -4
great season disappointing ending for sure at least my team can say they lost to the league champions for like 4th season in a row now haha i think you will see a big push to make next year your year...... i dunno how yet as that is something your fans can elaborate on much better but with the goaltending and defnse a virtual lock to all return and the leagues top scorer it simply makes sense to push ahead and go for it again one think i would like to point out that nobody has mentioned that i saw yet tho was L'Heureux...... he calmed himself down all playoffs and was the impact player he was supposed to be until the very end..... did none of you see that slash he laid on Gaucher i think it was? a full baseball swing that if the Rempart player hadnt jumped to avoid best he could would have had a very bad outcome I don't care if he consoled all his teammates and kissed the ice goodbye.... he went out a sore loser again The slash was on Bolduc. L'Heureux ended his QMJHL career the same way he conducted himself during his 4 years. Glimpses of greatness with his talent (scoring what looked like the GWG) but couldn't control his temper and acted like the selfish piece of garbage he is on the ice. He got to experience the biggest high to low you'll ever see in hockey. Good riddance.
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Post by bois on May 22, 2023 11:13:20 GMT -4
yes sorry you are right it was Bolduc my mistake.. rest of the point remains tho
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Post by sc74 on May 22, 2023 11:19:19 GMT -4
First, congrats to the Mooseheads for a hard fought series! They never gave up and made it a real close final since game 2. I really think the best team won but Halifax has nothing to be ashamed of, they showed everybody were wrong about them all season and even in the playoffs. Both Quebec and Halifax defied the odds winning against the two favorites Gatineau and Sherbrooke. Both teams showed resilience.
You'll have the best defense-goalie combo in the league next year. I'm quite sure your GM will be able to add depth on offense with some overagers.
I read that Quebec was healthier, maybe, but they weren't healthy that's for sure. Nico Savoie couldn't even walk properly after the series against Gatineau. Truchon probably separated his shoulder after Sam Savoie's hit at the end of the semifinal and Komarov is playing through a leg injury. He couldn't even finish games 1 and 5 against Halifax. Gaucher is clearly gassed after all the hockey he played over the past year with the two WJC, the NHL and everything else. He didn't have the same jump he usually has.
I'm proud of this team that meant business right from day 1 at camp. I really think losing before winning made them the champions they are today. I wish you the same for next year!
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Roscoe
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Post by Roscoe on May 22, 2023 12:23:11 GMT -4
third line Crosby , Fourier and MacPhee <etc> Fornier is finished with the Mooseheads, same as James... This is a no brainer, sadly.
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Roscoe
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Post by Roscoe on May 22, 2023 12:26:24 GMT -4
one think i would like to point out that nobody has mentioned that i saw yet tho was L'Heureux...... he calmed himself down all playoffs and was the impact player he was supposed to be until the very end..... did none of you see that slash he laid on Gaucher i think it was? a full baseball swing that if the Rempart player hadnt jumped to avoid best he could would have had a very bad outcome Well, L'Heureux wasn't even sent to the pentaly box, so how bad could it really have been?
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