Roscoe
Blue-Chip Prospect
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Post by Roscoe on Aug 15, 2023 16:30:23 GMT -4
I'm comparing the early version of the training camp roster on the QMJHL site to the most recent one. Can someone confirm...
NOT IN CAMP: Brandon Abbass LW Chris Battanini C Matt Dabrowski C Will Doherty C Jackson Dorrington D Luke Dow RW Kyle Greene C Daniel Heroux G Camden MacKenzie D Patrick McNab C Michael Monroe LW Noah Razon D Ben Robertson D Mathieu Taillefer D
RECENT ADDITIONS: Aiden Bent LW Dominic Mackenzie D
Does this look about right?
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Post by Citris on Aug 15, 2023 17:37:23 GMT -4
I'm comparing the early version of the training camp roster on the QMJHL site to the most recent one. Can someone confirm... NOT IN CAMP: Brandon Abbass LW Chris Battanini C Matt Dabrowski C Will Doherty C Jackson Dorrington D Luke Dow RW Kyle Greene C Daniel Heroux G Camden MacKenzie D Patrick McNab C Michael Monroe LW Noah Razon D Ben Robertson D Mathieu Taillefer D RECENT ADDITIONS: Aiden Bent LW Dominic Mackenzie D Does this look about right? Techinically, Biasca, Whynot and L'Heureux are still listed on the website preseason roster, other than those obvious ones Carter Amico D Jake Beardsmore D add those 2 and you got it I think.
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Roscoe
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Post by Roscoe on Aug 15, 2023 18:31:18 GMT -4
There seems to be a 2004, 6'00" Camden Mackenzie and a 2006, 5'10" Dominic Mackenzie...
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Roscoe
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Post by Roscoe on Aug 15, 2023 18:32:55 GMT -4
I'm comparing the early version of the training camp roster on the QMJHL site to the most recent one. Can someone confirm... NOT IN CAMP: Brandon Abbass LW Chris Battanini C Matt Dabrowski C Will Doherty C Jackson Dorrington D Luke Dow RW Kyle Greene C Daniel Heroux G Camden MacKenzie D Patrick McNab C Michael Monroe LW Noah Razon D Ben Robertson D Mathieu Taillefer D RECENT ADDITIONS: Aiden Bent LW Dominic Mackenzie D Does this look about right? Techinically, Biasca, Whynot and L'Heureux are still listed on the website preseason roster, other than those obvious ones Carter Amico D Jake Beardsmore D add those 2 and you got it I think. I missed Amico - thanks!
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Post by Herd Fan on Aug 16, 2023 10:06:30 GMT -4
It is getting closer and closer to show time. I personally am really looking forward to seeing Kilfoil. I have heard so many great things about this kid, I cant wait to see what he brings to the table. Fontaine although small, I think he is going to light it up in camp. Wondering if we will see any surprises.
Mckenzie was mentioned above and yes there are two of them. I believe one Camden(2004) travelled with the team during playoffs last year. Not sure if that means he has a good chance at taking a D spot or if Hugo Boucher is still the front runner on that???
Still very curious about what will happen with the backup this year as well.
Also, will camp look any different this year with a new coach? Or is camp itinerary mainly run by Cam Russell?
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Post by hfxfan2002 on Aug 16, 2023 15:39:11 GMT -4
The 7th D Spot will definitely go to whomever shows up the best at camp and I don’t think age will play a factor, I see 2 likely scenarios.
One is Camden McKenzie makes the team in his 19 year old season, then that opens up a top 6 spot for Eddy Doyle next year, I don’t think he’ll be ready for the Q just yet. But I think McKenzie is more of a Dylan Chisholm move so this scenario isn’t as likely.
Or you run Hugo Boucher who I would arguably say had a decent camp last season, and his main asset is on the defensive side and not the offensive side which I think the team needs as you already have Schultz, Furlong, and Martin who play a more two-way, offensive game. If he doesn’t make the team in the 2nd time around then his chances would be pretty slim for a third swing.
The D could look like this 2024-25.
Jake Furlong (20) if he goes unsigned. Brady Schultz (20) Dylan MacKinnon (19) Jack Martin (19) Owen Phillips (18) Hugo Boucher (18) Eddy Doyle (17)
The Mooseheads would probably run Vidicek, Schultz, Rousseau anyways. But that’s way too far in the future to be talking about. Hopefully the Q implements a fourth 20 option for goaltenders by then.
We’ll have to see how the invite pool does for Defencemen, they definitely didn’t draft enough defence going into training camp.
As for forward depth I think it’s anyone’s game, Liam Welsh and Jake Todd will have to earn their spots, because they could go a younger route if they wanted too.
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Post by crash2 on Aug 16, 2023 18:19:57 GMT -4
Willy Palov has his first article of the new season out on Saltwire, but might be behind a pay wall for some.
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Post by sc74 on Aug 17, 2023 14:31:44 GMT -4
That pic brings me joy.
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Post by sc74 on Aug 17, 2023 15:14:32 GMT -4
It looks like Jordan Dumais' little bro Justin decided to play in the Q. He'll be in the Olympiques lineup tonight.
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Post by Citris on Aug 17, 2023 15:19:53 GMT -4
It looks like Jordan Dumais' little bro Justin decided to play in the Q. He'll be in the Olympiques lineup tonight. Haha, I guess if you're gonna try to guarantee yourself a roster spot, Gatineau is where to try.
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Post by sc74 on Aug 17, 2023 15:26:58 GMT -4
It looks like Jordan Dumais' little bro Justin decided to play in the Q. He'll be in the Olympiques lineup tonight. Haha, I guess if you're gonna try to guarantee yourself a roster spot, Gatineau is where to try. Gatineau, Quebec and Sherbrooke... same struggle!
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Post by Citris on Aug 17, 2023 15:41:03 GMT -4
Haha, I guess if you're gonna try to guarantee yourself a roster spot, Gatineau is where to try. Gatineau, Quebec and Sherbrooke... same struggle! Halifax is barely better, up front anyway. Actually, I say that, but like, Halifax has plenty of quality options up front... but none of them fit the cycle. Peitzsche, Kilfoil, Ponzetto, Fontaine, these guys are probably going to be very good players at 18 and 19, they're just.. not good enough right now. It's not like the 2019 camp where the Mooseheads had Groulx, Lavoie and Trepanier ontop of a bunch of guys who shouldn't even be playing major junior.
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Post by moosefan1994 on Aug 17, 2023 19:22:24 GMT -4
Gatineau, Quebec and Sherbrooke... same struggle! Halifax is barely better, up front anyway. Actually, I say that, but like, Halifax has plenty of quality options up front... but none of them fit the cycle. Peitzsche, Kilfoil, Ponzetto, Fontaine, these guys are probably going to be very good players at 18 and 19, they're just.. not good enough right now. It's not like the 2019 camp where the Mooseheads had Groulx, Lavoie and Trepanier ontop of a bunch of guys who shouldn't even be playing major junior. That is why the Mooseheads should be trading Dumais and Furlong this season- they are going to have Vidicek, Rousseau and Schultz as OAs in 2024-2025. Get a boatload of assets to add to the 2024-2025 team and win the Q and the Memorial Cup.
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Post by Citris on Aug 17, 2023 20:53:52 GMT -4
Halifax is barely better, up front anyway. Actually, I say that, but like, Halifax has plenty of quality options up front... but none of them fit the cycle. Peitzsche, Kilfoil, Ponzetto, Fontaine, these guys are probably going to be very good players at 18 and 19, they're just.. not good enough right now. It's not like the 2019 camp where the Mooseheads had Groulx, Lavoie and Trepanier ontop of a bunch of guys who shouldn't even be playing major junior. That is why the Mooseheads should be trading Dumais and Furlong this season- they are going to have Vidicek, Rousseau and Schultz as OAs in 2024-2025. Get a boatload of assets to add to the 2024-2025 team and win the Q and the Memorial Cup. With respect - I don't like that plan for a few reasons. Whoever you add is not going to be better than Dumais or Furlong. You have the best player in the league on your team right now, moving back from that doesn't increase your chances of winning, it drastically decreases them. The BEST you could hope for is Gauthier and Peddle as futures from Drummondville, which would rule, except that everyone else also has this plan. Moncton, Chicoutimi, Cape Breton, Shawinigan, all of these teams (at least) are ahead of us in the push for 2024-25. Minus Furlong and Moravec, our defense suddenly doesn't look THAT deep, especially when you consider the core we'd be counting on to contend consists of 3 very good 20's, which comes with it's own risks. What if one has a breakout season and gets signed pro? Also, having your 3 20 year old spots filled means you can't upgrade at 20, you'll have to upgrade at more expensive positions in a host year when it's a sellers market. Which brings me to another point - it's going to be a sellers market next year, so why not make a push this year when all the Mooseheads really need to do is bring in 20 quality 20's and maybe another player or 2. Unless I'm missing something... Gatineau, Quebec, Sherbrooke, Saint John are at like, the very bottom stages of rebuilds. Bathurst, Charlottetown, Blainville-Brosbiand and Val-d'Or are all going to probably be mid-pack sellers. Moncton, Cape Breton, Shawinigan, Chicoutimi, Baie-Comeau, and Rimouski are all going to be the upper-mid pack teams, but I imagine almost all of them will be trying to build assets for next season. That leaves Drummondville and Rouyn-Noranda, who have both already shown that they're leaning towards going all-in this season (and have already spent a ton of assets), and maybe Victoriaville as Halifax's main competition going into this season. Things can change, one of the teams I mentioned in the upper-mid pack can catch fire and decide this is the year, but... My personal opinion, keep Fournier on the team, bring in another 20F before the home opener (or around then). Let things play out until Christmas with the current roster, let the cream rise to the top, maybe Crosby or Peitzsche step up as legit top 6 forwards. By Christmas you should have had plenty of time to evaluate the needs of the team. Let Fontaine show he can play at the Q level, and if he's not ready to push for a championship, flip him for someone who is. Without trying to sound cocky, with the right moves this team should march to at least the semi-finals again. Rousseau, Vidicek, Schutlz, they'll all be worth at least a 1st at the draft or next Christmas to kick-start the rebuild. Cataford and MacKinnon will be probably the most 2 sought-after players in trades. You might have to sacrifice one or two of those names as futures, but certainly not all 5. Even 3 of those guys turns a rebuild into a quick re-load, and the team would still have guys like Martin, Phillips, Peitzche, Crosby, Killfoil and Ponzetto to lean on during the rebuild. The tl;dr, I see a path for the Mooseheads to compete for a championship without completely bottoming out I think if the Mooseheads push for next year, not only do we decrease our chances of actually winning anything significantly, but we also run the risk of completely bottoming out like the Sea Dogs.
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Post by robichaud on Aug 17, 2023 22:10:51 GMT -4
Exactly my thoughts Citris! Thanks for putting it out so well!
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