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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 7, 2023 15:37:44 GMT -4
They've never been the quitting type. They're not gritty or going to scare anyone. But they're never out of a game. The issue is people still view not playing tough as not wanting it enough. They're not the same thing. I didn't see the game, but a big come back with Vasilevskiy out and with him there is not the same. Though he could have an off night. They beat Vasilevskiy in a playoff series last year. I guess those were his off nights. And nobody said beating them last night was the same as beating them with Vasilevskiy. Samsonov had an off night and Kucherov had a 4 point period and they still couldn't win. Its almost like they're both really strong teams with very little separating them most nights.
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Post by jordo999 on Nov 11, 2023 22:52:28 GMT -4
Idk if it's just me, and it's still early but why does this Leafs team feel like the worst one they've built in the last 3 or 4 years...I still think this team has holes that need filled if they expect to go far this year.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 15, 2023 10:45:10 GMT -4
Idk if it's just me, and it's still early but why does this Leafs team feel like the worst one they've built in the last 3 or 4 years...I still think this team has holes that need filled if they expect to go far this year. Because it is. The Treliving additions don't bring anything the team lacked. Klingberg is awful. Reaves is basically useless and should be protecting Marlies. In a lot of ways the best thing for the organization would be to take a step back and retool the edges of the roster a bit.
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Post by jordo999 on Nov 17, 2023 12:59:06 GMT -4
Idk if it's just me, and it's still early but why does this Leafs team feel like the worst one they've built in the last 3 or 4 years...I still think this team has holes that need filled if they expect to go far this year. Because it is. The Treliving additions don't bring anything the team lacked. Klingberg is awful. Reaves is basically useless and should be protecting Marlies. In a lot of ways the best thing for the organization would be to take a step back and retool the edges of the roster a bit. yeah I agree...both of those additions did nothing positive. Hard to see where they can go from here considering both guys cap is a combined like 5M? Outside of the top 6 I don't have much faith in this team...
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Post by Score on Nov 17, 2023 13:02:18 GMT -4
I feel their D needs a big upgrade ...and I am not confident with their goaltending tandem to go deep in the playoffs.
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Post by Score on Nov 23, 2023 16:13:51 GMT -4
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Post by jimmy on Nov 23, 2023 16:16:17 GMT -4
Interesting - what is wrong with him? Suddenly opens up some cap space ...
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Post by jordo999 on Nov 23, 2023 16:47:25 GMT -4
What would it take to pry Zadorov and/or Andersson out of Calgary if they decide to sell off? I think both guys could really push this blueline.
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Post by Score on Nov 30, 2023 15:46:22 GMT -4
So this is 3 of their 6 regular dman out injured..
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 30, 2023 16:00:21 GMT -4
So this is 3 of their 6 regular dman out injured.. Definitely need some reinforcements. The AHL guys aren't even playing terribly, they just can't be trusted in anything but a bottom 6 role. The Calgary rumors make almost too much sense. Treliving knows them. Calgary can use some younger pieces Toronto has and we know the Leafs will always throw draft picks at their depth issues. Make it a mega deal. 3 expiring contracts from Calgary with some cap retention (Lindholm, Tanev, Zadorov) for youth and picks from Toronto.
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Post by jimmy on Nov 30, 2023 16:36:25 GMT -4
So this is 3 of their 6 regular dman out injured.. Definitely need some reinforcements. The AHL guys aren't even playing terribly, they just can't be trusted in anything but a bottom 6 role. The Calgary rumors make almost too much sense. Treliving knows them. Calgary can use some younger pieces Toronto has and we know the Leafs will always throw draft picks at their depth issues. Make it a mega deal. 3 expiring contracts from Calgary with some cap retention (Lindholm, Tanev, Zadorov) for youth and picks from Toronto. I know you are joking, but I think one problem the Leafs face with any major trade is that many of the other teams who would covet the same players have far deeper prospect/pick pools than they do to offer.
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Post by Score on Nov 30, 2023 16:43:13 GMT -4
I think Conroy wants to wait until the deadline to see how close they are for a playoff spot.....and make a choice then.
No reason for him to sell right now.
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Post by bois on Nov 30, 2023 19:55:54 GMT -4
Zadorov to Vancouver for a 3rd and a 5th
lol so much for not wanting to sell right now or other teams having better prospects picks to offer
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Post by jordo999 on Nov 30, 2023 20:21:20 GMT -4
doesn't really make sense to me that the Leafs couldn't match that or better yet offer more lol.
Especially considering the trade is with a rival.
Maybe Tanev is next or they decide to re-sign him. I wouldn't be opposed to going after him either.
EDIT: I guess it likely comes down to the fact that Calgary didn't have to retain any salary or take anymore on from another contract.
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Post by scotiahockey on Nov 30, 2023 21:07:44 GMT -4
doesn't really make sense to me that the Leafs couldn't match that or better yet offer more lol. Especially considering the trade is with a rival. Maybe Tanev is next or they decide to re-sign him. I wouldn't be opposed to going after him either. EDIT: I guess it likely comes down to the fact that Calgary didn't have to retain any salary or take anymore on from another contract. Zadorov is big, he hits but he’s a 17-18 minute a night D at his best. He would probably improve the Toronto D but you can honestly get his skill set at the deadline for the same price and only have to pay a fraction of the cap hit. I don’t think Toronto missed out on anything here. If you’re Calgary though and that’s the return, I don’t understand why you make the move now. I know he asked for a trade but still. You do no worse at the deadline, you maybe do better if someone is in a panic for D and want physicality plus you could always retain. You run the risk of him getting hurt and losing the asset but for a 3rd and 5th… I don’t know that it’s such a return you need to make the deal now other then the fact he asked for it.
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