rookieq
Blue-Chip Prospect
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Post by rookieq on Oct 6, 2023 16:52:43 GMT -4
I really don’t know where that comment comes from as apparently he was skating with the game team in the morning and something changed mid-day today. To my knowledge he’s the only one standing with Luneau amongs all decent 19 year old Q players and I don’t thing that Columbus has any desire to send him back in the Q as it will be a lost year for him. We should be proud of him rather than say that he does not belong in the NHL. But, yes I agree with you, they have no choice and he will likely come back, but I do not expect him before 2-3 weeks and i would think that it could be after the Holidays. Any loophole they will find, they will take advantage of and i believe that they are not happy not getting the AHL waiver even if it was a lost cause. My only hope is that when he will come back, he will be very motivated and play like the best player of this league for his last stetch and hopefully we will witness a good go at it by the Moose. What a story he is. FWIW, CLB had an extra FW, D, and G in the game group, so it was likely just in case someone couldn't go. He was the 13th forward in line rushes. Dumais was not 13th forward on that B group. He never was the whole Camp and he had a great camp I heard. They were all AHL or waivers guy. I suppose that he was game-time decision and did not play, so we should find out soon...Dumais would be 1st line AHL if he had the waiver with that same group, not 13th forward. I agree with all recent posts above, he will come back as there are no room for him with all their contracts and he is still young. But I don't expect to see him over the next 2-3 weeks, we will see. I think that they will keep him for as long as it makes sense for them and when they will see that he is not playing, they will send him back. As a Moose fan, this is what I want anyways, but it is selfish On another note, Dumais missing 10-15 games in October and 1 month for World junior might be good for his game as he will not have to fight for the points leader of the league and he can focus on his all-around game and be the leader of that Moose team for a Championship run. As he has not been cut today, I will follow this very closely over the next 2-3 weeks, but the boys will be very happy to see him back when it happens.
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Post by Briwhel on Oct 7, 2023 9:53:17 GMT -4
FWIW, CLB had an extra FW, D, and G in the game group, so it was likely just in case someone couldn't go. He was the 13th forward in line rushes. Dumais was not 13th forward on that B group. He never was the whole Camp and he had a great camp I heard. They were all AHL or waivers guy. I suppose that he was game-time decision and did not play, so we should find out soon...Dumais would be 1st line AHL if he had the waiver with that same group, not 13th forward. I agree with all recent posts above, he will come back as there are no room for him with all their contracts and he is still young. But I don't expect to see him over the next 2-3 weeks, we will see. I think that they will keep him for as long as it makes sense for them and when they will see that he is not playing, they will send him back. As a Moose fan, this is what I want anyways, but it is selfish On another note, Dumais missing 10-15 games in October and 1 month for World junior might be good for his game as he will not have to fight for the points leader of the league and he can focus on his all-around game and be the leader of that Moose team for a Championship run. As he has not been cut today, I will follow this very closely over the next 2-3 weeks, but the boys will be very happy to see him back when it happens. I think you are misreading. Dumais was 13th fw in their game group. He didn't skate with the B group.
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Post by crash3 on Oct 9, 2023 7:59:03 GMT -4
NHL rosters have to be finalized by 5 pm (ET) today. We should learn what Columbus has in store for Dumais.
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Post by howitzer on Oct 9, 2023 14:13:11 GMT -4
Dumais placed on IR by Columbus. Upper body. Hopefully not serious.
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rookieq
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Post by rookieq on Oct 9, 2023 15:27:58 GMT -4
Dumais placed on IR by Columbus. Upper body. Hopefully not serious. That explains the fact that he has not been playing at least one game in the past week. Hopefully he is fine and back soon with either team, but yes maybe a conditioning week or two with CBJ and back here in due time and very hungry.
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Post by fabi1309 on Oct 9, 2023 15:32:34 GMT -4
Dumais placed on IR by Columbus. Upper body. Hopefully not serious. That explains the fact that he has not been playing at least one game in the past week. Hopefully he is fine and back soon with either team, but yes maybe a conditioning week or two with CBJ and back here in due time and very hungry. Could they use the injury/non-roster list to circumvent any of rules/restrictions? I am not very well informed about all the exact rules so any help would be appreciated! I am assuming that the 9 games only count if he is officially listed on the roster?
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Post by Jacques Strap on Oct 9, 2023 16:44:21 GMT -4
That explains the fact that he has not been playing at least one game in the past week. Hopefully he is fine and back soon with either team, but yes maybe a conditioning week or two with CBJ and back here in due time and very hungry. Could they use the injury/non-roster list to circumvent any of rules/restrictions? I am not very well informed about all the exact rules so any help would be appreciated! I am assuming that the 9 games only count if he is officially listed on the roster? Sounds kind of fishy to me.
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Post by MikeC on Oct 9, 2023 16:54:29 GMT -4
That explains the fact that he has not been playing at least one game in the past week. Hopefully he is fine and back soon with either team, but yes maybe a conditioning week or two with CBJ and back here in due time and very hungry. Could they use the injury/non-roster list to circumvent any of rules/restrictions? I am not very well informed about all the exact rules so any help would be appreciated! I am assuming that the 9 games only count if he is officially listed on the roster? The games he misses while injured would count against the number used to accrue seasons when determining UFA status (40 games), but not against the 9 games to start the contract. The injury would probably let them send him to the AHL for a conditioning stint once he's healthy.
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Post by Murph on Oct 10, 2023 7:20:41 GMT -4
Columbus doesn’t put him on IR if he’s not in their plans of some sort. Otherwise they return him to junior for the “injury” or they keep him to rehab the injury in Columbus but not have him on the roster (this has happened lots).
I’m guessing he’s there till the world juniors. More practice time now working with the club. Then two weeks in the AHL (likely times when they have a lot of games). A few scattered NHL games but keeping it under 9.
Dumais returning to junior in January is my guess.
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Post by canbeer on Oct 10, 2023 8:02:24 GMT -4
Columbus doesn’t put him on IR if he’s not in their plans of some sort. Otherwise they return him to junior for the “injury” or they keep him to rehab the injury in Columbus but not have him on the roster (this has happened lots). I’m guessing he’s there till the world juniors. More practice time now working with the club. Then two weeks in the AHL (likely times when they have a lot of games). A few scattered NHL games but keeping it under 9. Dumais returning to junior in January is my guess. This whole thing comes across to me as a way to get him AHL games.
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Post by Reesor on Oct 10, 2023 8:14:02 GMT -4
Could they use the injury/non-roster list to circumvent any of rules/restrictions? I am not very well informed about all the exact rules so any help would be appreciated! I am assuming that the 9 games only count if he is officially listed on the roster? Sounds kind of fishy to me. I would say more annoying (as a junior hockey fan) than fishy. If it was determined that they faked or exaggerated an injury to circumvent a rule they would probably get in a bit of trouble. I'd say the Blue Jackets are using every option available to get Dumais as much experience as possible. As much as I'd like to see him play in Halifax now, getting him back in January with loads of pro experience and probably world junior experience is better for him, and better for Halifax overall. Halifax gets to get their young players some experience. No rush to improve the roster right now unless the right move comes along. If Dumais somehow sticks in Columbus for the whole year, the Moose have options.
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Post by howitzer on Oct 10, 2023 9:02:31 GMT -4
Columbus doesn’t put him on IR if he’s not in their plans of some sort. Otherwise they return him to junior for the “injury” or they keep him to rehab the injury in Columbus but not have him on the roster (this has happened lots). I’m guessing he’s there till the world juniors. More practice time now working with the club. Then two weeks in the AHL (likely times when they have a lot of games). A few scattered NHL games but keeping it under 9. Dumais returning to junior in January is my guess. This whole thing comes across to me as a way to get him AHL games. Yep. Why not keep him around and send him on an AHL conditioning stint. It's legal. I think all parties (Mooseheads, Jackets and Dumais himself) know his eventual destination will be Halifax. Just a matter of when.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 10, 2023 10:10:35 GMT -4
This whole thing comes across to me as a way to get him AHL games. Yep. Why not keep him around and send him on an AHL conditioning stint. It's legal. I think all parties (Mooseheads, Jackets and Dumais himself) know his eventual destination will be Halifax. Just a matter of when. There's enough of a sample size to see that there really is no right or wrong. It 100% is about whats going to work for that player. I see the logic to keeping him practicing at the NHL level before a short AHL stint. Maybe some NHL injuries open up a roster spot for a few games. Or their hand is forced and early-mid November he's back in Halifax before the WJHC.
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Post by statsman18 on Oct 10, 2023 11:36:43 GMT -4
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Post by Score on Oct 10, 2023 12:35:40 GMT -4
Halifax sits at #2 in the CHL rankings.
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