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Post by Penguins23® on Dec 11, 2023 11:26:49 GMT -4
Rimouski has been awarded the hosting rights of the 2025 Memorial Cup.
Pretty crappy rink when compared to Avenir Centre and Slush Puppy.
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Post by Reesor on Dec 11, 2023 11:33:38 GMT -4
Absolutely nothing against Rimouski and its fans. This is an exciting opportunity for them. But Moncton should've hosted this tournament and it's a shame the province Moncton happens to be in cost them that chance. Moncton checks all the boxes and they haven't hosted in 18 years. If Gatineau hosts in 2028 and Shawinigan hosts in 2031, when it's Quebec City's turn in 2034 I'm sure the league isn't going to say "Well that was three straight in Quebec it should probably go to the Maritimes".
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 11, 2023 11:40:19 GMT -4
Absolutely nothing against Rimouski and its fans. This is an exciting opportunity for them. But Moncton should've hosted this tournament and it's a shame the province Moncton happens to be in cost them that chance. Moncton checks all the boxes and they haven't hosted in 18 years. If Gatineau hosts in 2028 and Shawinigan hosts in 2031, when it's Quebec City's turn in 2034 I'm sure the league isn't going to say "Well that was three straight in Quebec it should probably go to the Maritimes". I'm just sick of the Maritime teams bending over and taking it with no push back. Call out this bullshit. Threaten to leave the league. As silly as it sounds, the QMJHL needs the Maritimes teams and players for any survival at this point. Either call this shit out and demand a more level playing field...its almost insanely unbalanced coming out of covid with the Quebec based teams getting money from their provincial government and our teams getting nothing...add in this stuff where we constantly need to bend in order for the province of Quebec to continue with its superiority complex and endless spending of federal transfers on the social fabric of Quebec while our cities and towns are more concerned with the tent cities surrounding our city halls. You can't control what the provincial government spend on its rinks and people but you can absolutely demand equality when our provinces spend and our communities build new things but suddenly its not "our time" or some other garbage comment that makes sure we're put in queue so we only get exactly what we deserve and nothing more while every single handout and exception to any rule enforced on us happens for all these Quebec based teams.
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Dec 11, 2023 11:55:45 GMT -4
On the plus side , this should make angus booth and tourigny available
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Post by lirette on Dec 11, 2023 12:04:37 GMT -4
I don't have much else to say besides Moncton would have made tremendous hosts on everything from roster, rink quality, proven track record of event hosting & surrounding amenities. Any remaining credibility to this being some sort of fair "selection process" is completely gone.
Hard to not imagine Moncton not going into next season with a chip on their shoulder to beat both Rimouski in the playoffs and in the Memorial Cup.
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Post by Mika on Dec 11, 2023 12:50:25 GMT -4
Rimouski just hosted not that long ago.
I wish the Maritime teams would push back on the garbage the league has pulled. And a protest would work because they can't afford to lose the likes of Halifax, Moncton, Saint John, and to a lesser extent the smaller markets like Charlottetown.
From my understanding too the new fighting rules stem from a bribe from the Quebec government where Québec teams got $2M during COVID under the condition they implement a fighting ban. Maritime teams don't get a penny of that money yet were supposed to abide by the new rules.
Moncton was a great host for the World Juniors last year, and it was another great opportunity for the league to show off one of its shiny new toys with the Avenir Centre.
I assume they did, but did QC host with the new Videotron arena? I'm pretty sure they did, memory is just a bit fuzzy there.
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Post by Penguins23® on Dec 11, 2023 13:12:03 GMT -4
I assume they did, but did QC host with the new Videotron arena? I'm pretty sure they did, memory is just a bit fuzzy there. Nope. Videotron opened the same year as Memorial Cup but in September. The last game ever at the old rink was the Memorial Cup final.
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Post by Mika on Dec 11, 2023 13:17:02 GMT -4
I assume they did, but did QC host with the new Videotron arena? I'm pretty sure they did, memory is just a bit fuzzy there. Nope. Videotron opened the same year as Memorial Cup but in September. The last game ever at the old rink was the Memorial Cup final. Ok, thank you for clearing that up
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Post by Citris on Dec 11, 2023 13:48:20 GMT -4
My question is why is this the QMJHLs decision? Shouldn't it be up to the CHL as a whole who hosts?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 11, 2023 13:54:02 GMT -4
I don't have much else to say besides Moncton would have made tremendous hosts on everything from roster, rink quality, proven track record of event hosting & surrounding amenities. Any remaining credibility to this being some sort of fair "selection process" is completely gone. Hard to not imagine Moncton not going into next season with a chip on their shoulder to beat both Rimouski in the playoffs and in the Memorial Cup. Its disgusting decision that should unite the other Maritime teams but when only 3 of them fall under the eligibility requirements that must play a part in the other 3 teams not giving a shit. I hear nothing but how shitty my newer and larger rink is vs Rimouski's including new sky boxes and a video screen a decade ago with a new one coming with audio upgrades soon and we're being told not to even bother bidding. I'd say to boycott but I already refusing to pay $22 to support this product. I'm disappointed enough watching free streams in my living room and garage.
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Post by Mika on Dec 11, 2023 14:07:30 GMT -4
I don't have much else to say besides Moncton would have made tremendous hosts on everything from roster, rink quality, proven track record of event hosting & surrounding amenities. Any remaining credibility to this being some sort of fair "selection process" is completely gone. Hard to not imagine Moncton not going into next season with a chip on their shoulder to beat both Rimouski in the playoffs and in the Memorial Cup. Its disgusting decision that should unite the other Maritime teams but when only 3 of them fall under the eligibility requirements that must play a part in the other 3 teams not giving a shit.I hear nothing but how shitty my newer and larger rink is vs Rimouski's including new sky boxes and a video screen a decade ago with a new one coming with audio upgrades soon and we're being told not to even bother bidding. I'd say to boycott but I already refusing to pay $22 to support this product. I'm disappointed enough watching free streams in my living room and garage. I can't speak for others but I love when the Maritimes host. It gives me a better and easier chance to go to a game or two being from Charlottetown. I wish they'd ditch those requirements though and allow any team to bid on hosting, especially when there are very few drinks across the CHL that can bid on it. At the very least lessen the requirements to allow some of the smaller markets a chance to show off their town, rink, and team. Plus how awesome would it be to have a big tournament in some of the old rinks? All aspects of the CHL should be enjoyed by all fans, that includes Memorial Cup hosting, prospect games, Canada/Russia should that ever come back. Just my opinion on the matter, it just sucks seeing a select few benefiting simply because they're bigger.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 11, 2023 14:28:49 GMT -4
Its disgusting decision that should unite the other Maritime teams but when only 3 of them fall under the eligibility requirements that must play a part in the other 3 teams not giving a shit.I hear nothing but how shitty my newer and larger rink is vs Rimouski's including new sky boxes and a video screen a decade ago with a new one coming with audio upgrades soon and we're being told not to even bother bidding. I'd say to boycott but I already refusing to pay $22 to support this product. I'm disappointed enough watching free streams in my living room and garage. I can't speak for others but I love when the Maritimes host. It gives me a better and easier chance to go to a game or two being from Charlottetown. I wish they'd ditch those requirements though and allow any team to bid on hosting, especially when there are very few drinks across the CHL that can bid on it. At the very least lessen the requirements to allow some of the smaller markets a chance to show off their town, rink, and team. Plus how awesome would it be to have a big tournament in some of the old rinks? All aspects of the CHL should be enjoyed by all fans, that includes Memorial Cup hosting, prospect games, Canada/Russia should that ever come back. Just my opinion on the matter, it just sucks seeing a select few benefiting simply because they're bigger. Makes no sense to say the rink matters and the team matters but forget having a great team if you don't have the rink. If Rimouski and under 4300 can host...why can't Charlottetown or Sydney? They couldn't do more to make certain markets feel like second class markets compared to the bigger ones so it should be no wonder when the fans in a market like CB hear the bullshit from ownership around hosting and combine it with the countries worst on ice product and say "fuck this shit" when it comes to any type of regular support. The goalposts move endlessly for us on this. The minute something is upgraded...there's something else bad enough that we're told to not even bid. How bad could the audio be in an arena to not allow the 5000 seats to somehow make up for it? We're talking about the Memorial Cup and 6 hockey games not a Guns N Roses concert. Add in that our building management doesn't even realize they need to bid or lift a phone to inquire about things like World Junior exhibition games when the tournament is in the province and I give credit to any person regularly spending money to support the local team and one day have something to cheer for because I just can't do it when this is the mess I should be supporting.
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Post by Mika on Dec 11, 2023 14:45:16 GMT -4
I can't speak for others but I love when the Maritimes host. It gives me a better and easier chance to go to a game or two being from Charlottetown. I wish they'd ditch those requirements though and allow any team to bid on hosting, especially when there are very few drinks across the CHL that can bid on it. At the very least lessen the requirements to allow some of the smaller markets a chance to show off their town, rink, and team. Plus how awesome would it be to have a big tournament in some of the old rinks? All aspects of the CHL should be enjoyed by all fans, that includes Memorial Cup hosting, prospect games, Canada/Russia should that ever come back. Just my opinion on the matter, it just sucks seeing a select few benefiting simply because they're bigger. Makes no sense to say the rink matters and the team matters but forget having a great team if you don't have the rink. If Rimouski and under 4300 can host...why can't Charlottetown or Sydney? They couldn't do more to make certain markets feel like second class markets compared to the bigger ones so it should be no wonder when the fans in a market like CB hear the bullshit from ownership around hosting and combine it with the countries worst on ice product and say "fuck this shit" when it comes to any type of regular support. The goalposts move endlessly for us on this. The minute something is upgraded...there's something else bad enough that we're told to not even bid. How bad could the audio be in an arena to not allow the 5000 seats to somehow make up for it? We're talking about the Memorial Cup and 6 hockey games not a Guns N Roses concert. Add in that our building management doesn't even realize they need to bid or lift a phone to inquire about things like World Junior exhibition games when the tournament is in the province and I give credit to any person regularly spending money to support the local team and one day have something to cheer for because I just can't do it when this is the mess I should be supporting. Even just the financial boost it would give the smaller market teams. Like what the Eastlink Centre got for the Canada Games helped us get a really nice scoreboard. We could definitely address more issues if the league actually let a place like us host. But as much as people don't want to admit it, the Q has shown many times to be very anti-Atlantic. It shows in the decision making and even the reffing which can be very one-sided at times. (And this isn't even the terrible Hicks call in the finals, every Maritime team has been screwed at some point by the league. But it really does explain a lot.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 11, 2023 14:54:07 GMT -4
Makes no sense to say the rink matters and the team matters but forget having a great team if you don't have the rink. If Rimouski and under 4300 can host...why can't Charlottetown or Sydney? They couldn't do more to make certain markets feel like second class markets compared to the bigger ones so it should be no wonder when the fans in a market like CB hear the bullshit from ownership around hosting and combine it with the countries worst on ice product and say "fuck this shit" when it comes to any type of regular support. The goalposts move endlessly for us on this. The minute something is upgraded...there's something else bad enough that we're told to not even bid. How bad could the audio be in an arena to not allow the 5000 seats to somehow make up for it? We're talking about the Memorial Cup and 6 hockey games not a Guns N Roses concert. Add in that our building management doesn't even realize they need to bid or lift a phone to inquire about things like World Junior exhibition games when the tournament is in the province and I give credit to any person regularly spending money to support the local team and one day have something to cheer for because I just can't do it when this is the mess I should be supporting. Even just the financial boost it would give the smaller market teams. Like what the Eastlink Centre got for the Canada Games helped us get a really nice scoreboard. We could definitely address more issues if the league actually let a place like us host. But as much as people don't want to admit it, the Q has shown many times to be very anti-Atlantic. It shows in the decision making and even the reffing which can be very one-sided at times. (And this isn't even the terrible Hicks call in the finals, every Maritime team has been screwed at some point by the league. But it really does explain a lot. Everyone knows I don't buy the conspiracy stuff most of the time but this is the only league i've ever seen take an appeal and add games to it because you appealed it. And things like that never happen to teams inside the province of Quebec. Boomerang trade instantly caused a rule change....until enough teams begged for some forgiveness...but when the Morrisette's were trading used cars and duffle bags of cash for 100 point scorers in the 80's and 90's that was just the "good old days".
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Post by Mika on Dec 11, 2023 14:58:41 GMT -4
Even just the financial boost it would give the smaller market teams. Like what the Eastlink Centre got for the Canada Games helped us get a really nice scoreboard. We could definitely address more issues if the league actually let a place like us host. But as much as people don't want to admit it, the Q has shown many times to be very anti-Atlantic. It shows in the decision making and even the reffing which can be very one-sided at times. (And this isn't even the terrible Hicks call in the finals, every Maritime team has been screwed at some point by the league. But it really does explain a lot. Everyone knows I don't buy the conspiracy stuff most of the time but this is the only league i've ever seen take an appeal and add games to it because you appealed it. And things like that never happen to teams inside the province of Quebec. Boomerang trade instantly caused a rule change....until enough teams begged for some forgiveness...but when the Morrisette's were trading used cars and duffle bags of cash for 100 point scorers in the 80's and 90's that was just the "good old days". The only thing that really makes me iffy on the conspiracies is the Remparts always go through a rebuild cycle when a team that rich would just always be a contender like London is in the OHL. And maybe I'm just salty because any time we've had a chance at winning, we lost to a Québec team. I'll never know lol
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