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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 15, 2024 8:55:03 GMT -4
Yes but in terms of "public records" aka the provincial court system there's nothing there until he goes through arraignment court and enters a plea.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 15, 2024 8:57:23 GMT -4
The poster has been "unbanned". They will retain a bit of a warning level since they literally created an account just to post that. If they want to contribute they will be given a chance. Now that there is a source, the warning ought to be removed as well. Not 100% of it shouldn't. Thats a part of creating a new account. If your first post is potentially libelous you retain a warning for a little while. Keep posting and earn some trust and the warning goes away. Its always been that way here for people with new accounts. Any sort of percieved rule violations for new posters gets early attention.
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Post by coleminer on Mar 15, 2024 9:00:00 GMT -4
What will the kids think? They are the target market.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 15, 2024 9:03:18 GMT -4
What will the kids think? They are the target market. They will think a DUI comes with a pretty mediocre penalty considering by the time anything comes of it nobody will care about a suspended sentence or 1 year probation and this is what people will see as being taken away from him.
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Post by bois on Mar 15, 2024 9:03:31 GMT -4
The orchestration of this is what should have people insulted, on top of the stupid actions of the player. The fact that the team was able to handle its business before the legal system even had the guy enter a plea is a bad look to me. That means a pile of people worked quickly to come up with a penalty before all or hell any facts were really known and I say that because he's already penalized but still hasn't been charged. Had to make sure that DUI didn't negatively effect the QMJHL playoffs. They even had media in on it with the convenient "he'll be back for the playoffs" social media stuff last week when now the team says he's healthy enough to play. So to keep people like Portzline from reporting the truth they fed them the dirt and a different story to lead with. Very bad look. And I can't say i'll be surprised if these actions lead to some interesting fan interactions during the Q playoffs. There's no way Dumais isn't a target in every single market after this. It is an awful look Sadly its not the first time this type of thing has happened and been swept under tje rug
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Post by fabi1309 on Mar 15, 2024 9:12:36 GMT -4
As much as I want Dumais back for Playoffs, this is awful. Years of mothers against drunk driving and all the campaigns at Scotiabank Centre against drunk driving and then this "penalty"... We all know it's because the team wants him back for playoffs. What the actual hell?
Dumais knowingly entered a vehicle as a driver while intoxicated. As a star player and role model to a lot of kids he should have the mental capacity to figure that this is NOT a good decision. We all make mistakes yes, but driving drunk could have killed people. I'm glad it didn't.
I am pretty negative, I know, but I have heard enough awful stories from friends and family that were impacted by drunk drivers. JUST DON'T DO IT.
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Post by lirette on Mar 15, 2024 9:14:45 GMT -4
The orchestration of this is what should have people insulted, on top of the stupid actions of the player. The fact that the team was able to handle its business before the legal system even had the guy enter a plea is a bad look to me. That means a pile of people worked quickly to come up with a penalty before all or hell any facts were really known and I say that because he's already penalized but still hasn't been charged. Had to make sure that DUI didn't negatively effect the QMJHL playoffs. They even had media in on it with the convenient "he'll be back for the playoffs" social media stuff last week when now the team says he's healthy enough to play. So to keep people like Portzline from reporting the truth they fed them the dirt and a different story to lead with. Very bad look. And I can't say i'll be surprised if these actions lead to some interesting fan interactions during the Q playoffs. There's no way Dumais isn't a target in every single market after this. I dont know what the right punishment is but this amounts to essentially nothing at all. He misses 5 meaningless games which he was possibly going to miss anyways and 1 playoff game against a 7th seeded team. People blab on about cancel culture ruining society but time and time again when it comes to elite level athletes a teams performance will always take priority over someone facing appropriate consequences for their actions. If I was Columbus and I want to teach the kid a lesson I'd be on the phone with Halifax telling them the kids season is done, but at the same time I wouldn't even be surprised if they were involved in the decision and were fine with it. I don't want to assume too much here but he was caught in the heart of downtown Halifax after 2AM. Incredibly dangerous. We all know that if this was a 3rd or 4th liner the guys season would be done. DUI's are not something to be taken lightly. These situations always blow my mind even more when its from a prominent person. Take a cab, call someone in the halifax organization or your billets or one of your teammates. Uber is super easy to use in Halifax especially downtown on a Friday.
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Post by bois on Mar 15, 2024 9:22:23 GMT -4
And the court system will drag the process on so his jailtime will be after hockey is done and before camp starts for columbus next year
He could have issues crossing the border however once hes officially charged and found guilty
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 15, 2024 9:22:50 GMT -4
The orchestration of this is what should have people insulted, on top of the stupid actions of the player. The fact that the team was able to handle its business before the legal system even had the guy enter a plea is a bad look to me. That means a pile of people worked quickly to come up with a penalty before all or hell any facts were really known and I say that because he's already penalized but still hasn't been charged. Had to make sure that DUI didn't negatively effect the QMJHL playoffs. They even had media in on it with the convenient "he'll be back for the playoffs" social media stuff last week when now the team says he's healthy enough to play. So to keep people like Portzline from reporting the truth they fed them the dirt and a different story to lead with. Very bad look. And I can't say i'll be surprised if these actions lead to some interesting fan interactions during the Q playoffs. There's no way Dumais isn't a target in every single market after this. I dont know what the right punishment is but this amounts to essentially nothing at all. He misses 5 meaningless games which he was possibly going to miss anyways and 1 playoff game against a 7th seeded team. People blab on about cancel culture ruining society but time and time again when it comes to elite level athletes a teams performance will always take priority over someone facing appropriate consequences for their actions. If I was Columbus and I want to teach the kid a lesson I'd be on the phone with Halifax telling them the kids season is done, but at the same time I wouldn't even be surprised if they were involved in the decision and were fine with it. I don't want to assume too much here but he was caught in the heart of downtown Halifax after 2AM. Incredibly dangerous. We all know that if this was a 3rd or 4th liner the guys season would be done. DUI's are not something to be taken lightly. These situations always blow my mind even more when its from a prominent person. Take a cab, call someone in the halifax organization or your billets or one of your teammates. Uber is super easy to use in Halifax especially downtown on a Friday. The timing of the press releases is disgusting. Just pure coincidence that the team got something out like 20 minutes ahead of the police? Just pure coincidence that after 10 days or so when it happened this gets the Friday headline? Coincidence that Portzline tweeted what he did when he did? Hockey culture is just absolutely fucking disgusting. Protect kids who put pucks in net. Make examples of the rest. Someone should be losing their job over this entire thing. Way too orchestrated for me. We're watching QMJHL theatre unfold. But new leadership of the league. New ownership of the team. Congratulations on helping to tarnish your legacies by agreeing to and enforcing this absolutely disgusting farce of a penalty.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 15, 2024 9:24:10 GMT -4
And the court system will drag the process on so his jailtime will be after hockey is done and before camp starts for columbus next year He could have issues crossing the border however once hes officially charged and found guilty I say this gets dragged into next Spring when his pro season is over so he can plead out and move on. But it will happen when hockey is the last things on anyone mind to continue making sure it gets shoved as far under the rug as it can go. "All time leading scorer" getting this has to embarrass everyone. Yet their reaction to it is what will be remembered.
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Post by falconz on Mar 15, 2024 9:26:35 GMT -4
It’s a tough look for moose heads and the league - 5 games is no where near enough punishment in my opinion
But hopefully it’s a lesson to be learnt - kid has incredible talent and made a mistake. I certainly wish him the best snd that he overcomes this set back.
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Post by rbchimp on Mar 15, 2024 9:26:59 GMT -4
Last game I was at, the Budweiser Designated Driver booth wasn't open.. coincidence? Been open the last few games?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 15, 2024 9:28:32 GMT -4
It’s a tough look for moose heads and the league - 5 games is no where near enough punishment in my opinion But hopefully it’s a lesson to be learnt - kid has incredible talent and made a mistake. I certainly wish him the best snd that he overcomes this set back. The lesson is for the next DUI and how to make sure you avoid real punishment. Just call the Moosehead brass.
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Post by Murph on Mar 15, 2024 9:35:01 GMT -4
As much as I want Dumais back for Playoffs, this is awful. Years of mothers against drunk driving and all the campaigns at Scotiabank Centre against drunk driving and then this "penalty"... We all know it's because the team wants him back for playoffs. What the actual hell? Dumais knowingly entered a vehicle as a driver while intoxicated. As a star player and role model to a lot of kids he should have the mental capacity to figure that this is NOT a good decision. We all make mistakes yes, but driving drunk could have killed people. I'm glad it didn't. I am pretty negative, I know, but I have heard enough awful stories from friends and family that were impacted by drunk drivers. JUST DON'T DO IT. The whole reason DUI is even a thing is because alcohol impairs your judgment. So saying that he needs to make better decisions and knew better etc etc applies to SOBER Jordan Dumais. Not the drunk version whose decision making is compromised. Liquor is new to the kids this age and you’re gonna see them make stupid decisions. It happens a lot but you don’t hear about it because they’re not a public figure. Kids are gonna screw up. He’s not the first and won’t be the last. Let him wear the consequences through the court system, same as any other teenager would and let those consequences spill into his “job” same as you or I. The big fuck up here in my opinion is the Mooseheads. 1- the 5 games seems light and looks tailored to the playoffs. Similar infractions in the OHL and WHL have fallen into the 10-12 game range. 2- the Mooseheads knew about the incident on March 1st. But did nothing publicly for two weeks. Had they suspended Dumas indefinitely pending an investigation, they could’ve given him the same 10-12 game suspension and still not affected the playoffs. Much better look. The way it’s perceived now is the team tried for two weeks to get the crown the squash the charges. 3- 99% of kids who become drinking age are going to experiment and test their limits when it comes to alcohol.The Mooseheads players hit those ages during their tenure and the team needs to be more proactive here to ensure player and public safety. There have been 3 public incidents in my recent memory but anybody who follows or is connected to junior hockey knows there’s a whole lot more incidents we never hear about. Property damage in hotels, damage to billet homes, drunk driving where nobody gets caught or perhaps a cop who’s a fan of the team escorts the player home (this has happened at least twice to my knowledge, once in 1999 and once in 2008). Like I said above, once the drinking starts, the players judgement no longer can be trusted. However if the Mooseheads had a program where the players can be up front of their plans, have team paid transportation arranged in advance so these situations are avoided seems like an easy step. This is super easy to do now with apps and ride shares. A bigger budget team like Halifax really has no excuse for implementing something like this.
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Post by itstime on Mar 15, 2024 9:35:24 GMT -4
I find it interisting that anyone that is not a Moosheads fan feels like this is not a strong enought suspension. I am not about to comment on the suspension because it is not my decision. I dont think it was swept under the rug as it really will hurt the guys legacy with the club and the league. Swept under the rug in my eyes we never hear about it and that is not the case.
Listen the kid messed up, and I would tell you I bet he is feeling pretty bad about the situation. Maybe for the wrong reason maybe not, but think about what the kid has been dealing with this year. I am not saying that what he has done is right or even justified it was 100% stupid.
I personally feel for the kid, he looks like a nice kid and I have never heard anything bad said about him. He made a mistake, I hope he is really sorry about it and learns from the mistake.
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