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Post by Murph on Mar 15, 2024 9:36:53 GMT -4
And the court system will drag the process on so his jailtime will be after hockey is done and before camp starts for columbus next year He could have issues crossing the border however once hes officially charged and found guilty Americans can’t cross into Canada with a DUI conviction but Canadians can cross into the states with a DUI. And where there wasn’t any victim involved and Dumais has no record, he’s not going to jail. He’ll get a licence suspension and probation. That’ll be it. That applies to any of us. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 15, 2024 9:46:05 GMT -4
I find it interisting that anyone that is not a Moosheads fan feels like this is not a strong enought suspension. I am not about to comment on the suspension because it is not my decision. I dont think it was swept under the rug as it really will hurt the guys legacy with the club and the league. Swept under the rug in my eyes we never hear about it and that is not the case. Listen the kid messed up, and I would tell you I bet he is feeling pretty bad about the situation. Maybe for the wrong reason maybe not, but think about what the kid has been dealing with this year. I am not saying that what he has done is right or even justified it was 100% stupid. I personally feel for the kid, he looks like a nice kid and I have never heard anything bad said about him. He made a mistake, I hope he is really sorry about it and learns from the mistake. Its not strong enough based on the strength of other suspensions for the exact same thing. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 15, 2024 9:46:49 GMT -4
Not implying anything - but I do wonder why the Global story would contain the following sentence? In Nova Scotia, drivers caught with a blood alcohol content of .05 to .08 can lose their license for seven days on a first offence.I think thats just a standard line they put in any DUI stories. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 15, 2024 9:49:11 GMT -4
Like I said above, once the drinking starts, the players judgement no longer can be trusted. However if the Mooseheads had a program where the players can be up front of their plans, have team paid transportation arranged in advance so these situations are avoided seems like an easy step. This is super easy to do now with apps and ride shares. A bigger budget team like Halifax really has no excuse for implementing something like this. This x1000. A veteran team full of 19 and 20yr olds is going to drink. Create the scenario to remove decision making for them before the drinking even starts. Call X for your ride home. Whether thats Uber, a taxi, Cam Russell, or whoever it seems like a rather easy system to put in place. |
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Post by Smiley on Mar 15, 2024 9:49:58 GMT -4
I find it interisting that anyone that is not a Moosheads fan feels like this is not a strong enought suspension. I am not about to comment on the suspension because it is not my decision. I dont think it was swept under the rug as it really will hurt the guys legacy with the club and the league. Swept under the rug in my eyes we never hear about it and that is not the case. Listen the kid messed up, and I would tell you I bet he is feeling pretty bad about the situation. Maybe for the wrong reason maybe not, but think about what the kid has been dealing with this year. I am not saying that what he has done is right or even justified it was 100% stupid. I personally feel for the kid, he looks like a nice kid and I have never heard anything bad said about him. He made a mistake, I hope he is really sorry about it and learns from the mistake. Ummm - what a fucking horrible take. There are a lot of Moose fans here posting that this bull shit and a 5 game suspension is very weak. |
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Post by Smiley on Mar 15, 2024 9:53:49 GMT -4
Not implying anything - but I do wonder why the Global story would contain the following sentence? In Nova Scotia, drivers caught with a blood alcohol content of .05 to .08 can lose their license for seven days on a first offence.Because he was above .08 - meaning this is on the serious side of the dui and the penalty is most likely more severe. They are kindly pointing out that this wasn’t “a beer or two.” So they are ahead of any narratives of “the kid had a beer excuse.” |
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Post by itstime on Mar 15, 2024 9:55:36 GMT -4
I find it interisting that anyone that is not a Moosheads fan feels like this is not a strong enought suspension. I am not about to comment on the suspension because it is not my decision. I dont think it was swept under the rug as it really will hurt the guys legacy with the club and the league. Swept under the rug in my eyes we never hear about it and that is not the case. Listen the kid messed up, and I would tell you I bet he is feeling pretty bad about the situation. Maybe for the wrong reason maybe not, but think about what the kid has been dealing with this year. I am not saying that what he has done is right or even justified it was 100% stupid. I personally feel for the kid, he looks like a nice kid and I have never heard anything bad said about him. He made a mistake, I hope he is really sorry about it and learns from the mistake. Its not strong enough based on the strength of other suspensions for the exact same thing. Do you have an example that happened in the QMJHL? Just wondering? I am in no way saying you are wrong, just asking. |
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Post by trueblue on Mar 15, 2024 9:55:48 GMT -4
I personally feel for the kid, he looks like a nice kid and I have never heard anything bad said about him. He made a mistake, I hope he is really sorry about it and learns from the mistake. Don't interpret this IN ANY WAY as an excuse for his behaviour, but: this last 3 months cannot have been easy for him - hockey is his entire life and he hasn't played a single game since the WJHC quarterfinals. |
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Post by bois on Mar 15, 2024 9:57:02 GMT -4
And the court system will drag the process on so his jailtime will be after hockey is done and before camp starts for columbus next year He could have issues crossing the border however once hes officially charged and found guilty Americans can’t cross into Canada with a DUI conviction but Canadians can cross into the states with a DUI. And where there wasn’t any victim involved and Dumais has no record, he’s not going to jail. He’ll get a licence suspension and probation. That’ll be it. That applies to any of us. Not true he 100% will be going to jail if convicted unless of course he was tossed in there the night he was convicted and gets the minumum senrence Aggravating circumstances such as his actual readings how cooperative he was etc will factor in |
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Post by Smiley on Mar 15, 2024 9:57:15 GMT -4
I personally feel for the kid, he looks like a nice kid and I have never heard anything bad said about him. He made a mistake, I hope he is really sorry about it and learns from the mistake. Don't interpret this IN ANY WAY as an excuse for his behaviour, but: this last 3 months cannot have been easy for him - hockey is his entire life and he hasn't played a single game since the WJHC quarterfinals. “I am not making excuses, but here are some excuses for the player” |
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Post by sc74 on Mar 15, 2024 9:58:50 GMT -4
Remparts captain Simon Courcelles crashed his car in January 2006 with another person seated beside him. Fortunately, they weren't injured seriously but his blood alcohol level was twice over the limit. He wasn't suspended by the league or the team. He was acquitted three years later on technicalities. His lawyer argued that he couldn't have been drunk after drinking only 6 Coors Light and witnesses said he didn't look impaired when he got out of the car.
Just saying... these were different times! What they both did is wrong and should have led to consequences for Courcelles but it never did. Hopefully justice does work with Dumais.
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Post by trueblue on Mar 15, 2024 10:02:46 GMT -4
Don't interpret this IN ANY WAY as an excuse for his behaviour, but: this last 3 months cannot have been easy for him - hockey is his entire life and he hasn't played a single game since the WJHC quarterfinals. “I am not making excuses, but here are some excuses for the player” As I stated earlier in the thread: Straight up can't happen. |
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Post by gtsoc on Mar 15, 2024 10:04:46 GMT -4
Its not strong enough based on the strength of other suspensions for the exact same thing. Do you have an example that happened in the QMJHL? Just wondering? I am in no way saying you are wrong, just asking. Travis Fullerton was released by Lewiston for getting a DUI during training camp in 2006. Jonathan Laberge was given a 7 day suspension and 200 hours of community service by Saint John in 2006. |
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Post by sc74 on Mar 15, 2024 10:06:23 GMT -4
My parents' friend got a DUI 15 years ago and got a pardon but still can't enter the US. He was turned over at the border last year.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Mar 15, 2024 10:09:30 GMT -4
Americans can’t cross into Canada with a DUI conviction but Canadians can cross into the states with a DUI. And where there wasn’t any victim involved and Dumais has no record, he’s not going to jail. He’ll get a licence suspension and probation. That’ll be it. That applies to any of us. Not true he 100% will be going to jail if convicted unless of course he was tossed in there the night he was convicted and gets the minumum senrence Aggravating circumstances such as his actual readings how cooperative he was etc will factor in He won't go to jail for this. He will be penalized after pleading guilty but likely just with some probation and community service stuff and he may even get the charge wiped from his record for completing that. He'll plead and get a light sentence is my prediction even with the high bac rating. Definitely no jail time. |
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