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Post by ronal on Jan 12, 2024 13:51:29 GMT -4
I said little to nothing lol and i didnt say they couldnt make a shitty teams opening night roster once, which is exactly what will happen. why would you give a 2nd 3rd and a prospect for a guy who is getting cut from the team you are trading for. they will wait until they are FA if they make a team they will hold value Again you're back to why do Q teams trade for 4th best overagers, 3rd best imports vs picking them all off waivers. This whole point that teams will just wait to get all our extra guys for free on waivers is absurd. No non Contenders will pay jack for a 20 Moncton has theres and rimouski def wont so who pays the bill next season
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 12, 2024 13:51:45 GMT -4
More then all in teams need quality goaltending. Every team needs it, Ruccia with a solid finish to the season will be in high demand. Gatineau moved Olivier Boutin at the draft last year to the Titan for a 2nd and a 3rd because they had to many 20's. Cape gave up a 2nd / 6th for Cam MacDonald to the same Gatineau team who had too many overagers. Houde's value could extend beyond both of these guys with a strong finish. Whether its Houde, Schmitt, or Ruccia...to argue that if any are your odd man out that makes their value be nothing is just silly. You can argue its less. But to say its either he's among the best in the league and your #1 or he's on waivers...is really just pointless to argue against if someone refuses to use examples to prove the point or add any context.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 12, 2024 13:52:52 GMT -4
More then all in teams need quality goaltending. Every team needs it, Ruccia with a solid finish to the season will be in high demand. Gatineau moved Olivier Boutin at the draft last year to the Titan for a 2nd and a 3rd because they had to many 20's. Cape gave up a 2nd / 6th for Cam MacDonald to the same Gatineau team who had too many overagers. Houde's value could extend beyond both of these guys with a strong finish. Nah both of them would have made Gatineau thats why they got something. they wouldnt have been cut ur players are getting cut and they know that. what 20 does Gat have rn that is better than Boutin and Macdonald LOL and dont say Gendro he was in the plans at all No they're getting traded. You think they're getting cut. Not 1 poster here or QMJHL GM believes players like Houde or Ruccia will end up on waivers let alone saying both will if you don't decide they're in your plans.
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Post by ronal on Jan 12, 2024 13:54:25 GMT -4
Nah both of them would have made Gatineau thats why they got something. they wouldnt have been cut ur players are getting cut and they know that. what 20 does Gat have rn that is better than Boutin and Macdonald LOL and dont say Gendro he was in the plans at all No they're getting traded. You think they're getting cut. Not 1 poster here or QMJHL GM believes players like Houde or Ruccia will end up on waivers let alone saying both will if you don't decide they're in your plans. If they make the team than they have Value like i said lol but you will have to cut a 20 you will get little to nothing for regarldess
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 12, 2024 13:56:31 GMT -4
Again you're back to why do Q teams trade for 4th best overagers, 3rd best imports vs picking them all off waivers. This whole point that teams will just wait to get all our extra guys for free on waivers is absurd. No non Contenders will pay jack for a 20 Moncton has theres and rimouski def wont so who pays the bill next season Stop moving the goal posts. Nobody said contenders are coming after them. We are saying they're not ending up on waivers. That some team...maybe a middle of the pack team not named Moncton or Rimouski...may want a stabilizing force in goal for leadership to bring along a young backup. Or a ppg forward with leadership ability. And that teams will pay a reasonable value for that. You're on each end of extreme here and now changing the conversation. Your argument is now another one nobody is making a case against. We know Moncton isn't shopping here for their 20's. We know Rimouski has their goaltender....but in case you're unaware there are 15 other markets with 45 other overage spots that will pay something for our guys before they're both had for nothing.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 12, 2024 13:58:18 GMT -4
No they're getting traded. You think they're getting cut. Not 1 poster here or QMJHL GM believes players like Houde or Ruccia will end up on waivers let alone saying both will if you don't decide they're in your plans. If they make the team than they have Value like i said lol but you will have to cut a 20 you will get little to nothing for regarldess Ok this is just silly. You have to cut a 20 you will get little for. Why does any team have to cut a player someone is offering something for? Are you even reading this stuff?
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Post by ronal on Jan 12, 2024 13:58:52 GMT -4
No non contnder will pay that for 20s is wht im saying so who will pay the bill you say im not giving examples but thats one lol it will take a contender to pay for the 20s who wont make capes team (which no one will buy when they are free) what team wil pay for 20s that wont make the team they are n rn.
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Post by fanofthegame on Jan 12, 2024 14:02:21 GMT -4
I can't believe we are entertaining this conversation. Les Titan are probably already calling Sly asking about our overagers as potential upgrades. There is a perfect example of a team that will have to open up their wallet to upgrade on 20's and they are not a contender.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 12, 2024 14:08:49 GMT -4
No non contnder will pay that for 20s is wht im saying so who will pay the bill you say im not giving examples but thats one lol it will take a contender to pay for the 20s who wont make capes team (which no one will buy when they are free) what team wil pay for 20s that wont make the team they are n rn. Just because contenders pay the highest prices for the best available doesn't mean everyone else is had for free. Charles Boutin is an example. Not among our best 3 overagers. Traded to a non-contending rebuilder also moving 20's. Not only did a team trade for him but a team knowing we wanted to replace him with someone better still traded for him. If they knew we wanted MacDonald and were shopping Boutin why the hell did they ever give up anything for Boutin?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 12, 2024 14:10:12 GMT -4
I can't believe we are entertaining this conversation. Les Titan are probably already calling Sly asking about our overagers as potential upgrades. There is a perfect example of a team that will have to open up their wallet to upgrade on 20's and they are not a contender. Yeah its almost like bad trolling at this point. Zero proof or examples being used to even try and make the point look true. Just look at the trades around the draft and you'll see many non contenders moving picks and/or younger players for overage options.
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Post by ronal on Jan 12, 2024 14:10:42 GMT -4
No non contnder will pay that for 20s is wht im saying so who will pay the bill you say im not giving examples but thats one lol it will take a contender to pay for the 20s who wont make capes team (which no one will buy when they are free) what team wil pay for 20s that wont make the team they are n rn. Just because contenders pay the highest prices for the best available doesn't mean everyone else is had for free. Charles Boutin is an example. Not among our best 3 overagers. Traded to a non-contending rebuilder also moving 20's. Not only did a team trade for him but a team knowing we wanted to replace him with someone better still traded for him. If they knew we wanted MacDonald and were shopping Boutin why the hell did they ever give up anything for Boutin? won't happen Jacky Boy
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Post by emerz on Jan 12, 2024 14:20:14 GMT -4
Just because contenders pay the highest prices for the best available doesn't mean everyone else is had for free. Charles Boutin is an example. Not among our best 3 overagers. Traded to a non-contending rebuilder also moving 20's. Not only did a team trade for him but a team knowing we wanted to replace him with someone better still traded for him. If they knew we wanted MacDonald and were shopping Boutin why the hell did they ever give up anything for Boutin? won't happen Jacky Boy Are you alright? I guarantee you that our excess 20s get traded for assets and aren't just cut lol. Must be your first year following the league eh? You'll learn in time, for now just take the L and go lick your wounds.
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Post by ronal on Jan 12, 2024 14:22:44 GMT -4
Are you alright? I guarantee you that our excess 20s get traded for assets and aren't just cut lol. Must be your first year following the league eh? You'll learn in time, for now just take the L and go lick your wounds. No believe me it isn't you'll get little to nothing like I said
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Post by ronal on Jan 12, 2024 14:24:00 GMT -4
Are you alright? I guarantee you that our excess 20s get traded for assets and aren't just cut lol. Must be your first year following the league eh? You'll learn in time, for now just take the L and go lick your wounds. What L did I we gotta wait 6 months for the outcome of this argument you moron
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 12, 2024 14:24:08 GMT -4
Just because contenders pay the highest prices for the best available doesn't mean everyone else is had for free. Charles Boutin is an example. Not among our best 3 overagers. Traded to a non-contending rebuilder also moving 20's. Not only did a team trade for him but a team knowing we wanted to replace him with someone better still traded for him. If they knew we wanted MacDonald and were shopping Boutin why the hell did they ever give up anything for Boutin? won't happen Jacky Boy It literally has happened every year the Eagles have been in this league. Grow up.
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