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Post by moosefan1994 on Apr 18, 2024 15:39:34 GMT -4
I have no problem with the Simons talking about wanting good character.
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Post by Joe Burrow on Apr 18, 2024 15:58:04 GMT -4
The G.O.A.T moosehead Marcel Barinka
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Post by coleminer on Apr 18, 2024 18:32:25 GMT -4
I don't see the big deal. Bobby Smith was quite hands on. The part of them hanging out with the players in the dressing room is a bit much though.
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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 18, 2024 18:39:11 GMT -4
Yeah Bobby Smith was basically running every little thing. He probably ordered the food for the concessions stands. I don't thing the Simon's can do worse then that. The Simon's will be leaning on Cam Russell's experience and knowledge a lot more than Bobby Smith did.
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Post by mooseguy on Apr 18, 2024 19:31:49 GMT -4
I'm glad there wasn't a knee jerk reaction to letting the coaches go. It seems after reviewing the situation 2 people had to go not just the head coach. Easily could have had a problem left over for the new guy if the blame was all just placed on Midgley. Cam doesn't come out of this with clean hands either. He has a problem either doing due diligence prior to hiring people or is not a good people manager after he hires them. If he thought he was doing Midgley a favour hiring him back he has probably done the opposite with a second firing after a single season.
I can't tell if Simon was questioning the character of certain players or the coaches or both. But there was an undertone of having the wrong personnel/leadership on the team this year.
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Post by Citris on Apr 18, 2024 23:02:49 GMT -4
Yea.
You have to think it was something to do with morale and coaching staff. I don't wanna focus all the blame on one guy but you now have 2 teams 6 years apart that just didn't look like they gave a shit and nobody wanted to be here under the same guy. LFD and Reynolds were both described as high character guys and neither of them really delivered that to the degree that was expected of them once they got here.
Idk. You can't blame it all on the coach, but... at the same time you can't expect me to ignore the evidence of our eyes and ears.
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Post by coleminer on Apr 19, 2024 7:41:18 GMT -4
Yea. You have to think it was something to do with morale and coaching staff. I don't wanna focus all the blame on one guy but you now have 2 teams 6 years apart that just didn't look like they gave a shit and nobody wanted to be here under the same guy. LFD and Reynolds were both described as high character guys and neither of them really delivered that to the degree that was expected of them once they got here. Idk. You can't blame it all on the coach, but... at the same time you can't expect me to ignore the evidence of our eyes and ears. Midgley obviously has good hockey acumen but something happens when he becomes the head coach. Is he a pushover to the point it becomes a circus? Like a grade school teacher that loses control of the class? Does he do something that loses the players respect? Is he toxic? There is something in his personality that is stopping him from breaking through as a head coach.
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Post by trueblue on Apr 19, 2024 8:30:22 GMT -4
Yea. You have to think it was something to do with morale and coaching staff. I don't wanna focus all the blame on one guy but you now have 2 teams 6 years apart that just didn't look like they gave a shit and nobody wanted to be here under the same guy. LFD and Reynolds were both described as high character guys and neither of them really delivered that to the degree that was expected of them once they got here. Idk. You can't blame it all on the coach, but... at the same time you can't expect me to ignore the evidence of our eyes and ears. Midgley obviously has good hockey acumen but something happens when he becomes the head coach. Is he a pushover to the point it becomes a circus? Like a grade school teacher that loses control of the class? Does he do something that loses the players respect? Is he toxic? There is something in his personality that is stopping him from breaking through as a head coach. Things were okay to start out the year but from what I've been able to gather second hand the trust/mood in the room deteriorated pretty quickly. It was a bit of everything... a bit authoritarian and cold in terms of overall approach, a bad system that didn't really match the makeup of the roster, an unwillingness to make important personnel changes when needed, and some incidents/moments throughout the year that really turned some players off. There was a clip from Moose Tracks at the beginning of the year where he said something to the effect of: While it sounds good in theory, he clearly wasn't able to make this approach work.
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Post by hockeydad on Apr 19, 2024 11:57:13 GMT -4
I am not sure the Moose have addressed the problem when you have a problem in a organization it generally starts at the top and firing the coach and assistant doesn’t seem like they have addressed the bigger issue but rather did the soft fire for now !
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Post by coleminer on Apr 19, 2024 18:22:43 GMT -4
I have no problem with the Simons talking about wanting good character. Hard to argue with this.
Fans will never know for sure which player(s) this was targeted at. If the target(s) of the comments ends up having a good NHL career or makes an NHL debut, no doubt the Mooseheads social media machine will be pumping their tires, for their marketing purposes.
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Post by coleminer on Apr 19, 2024 18:37:19 GMT -4
J. J.Daigneault was let go, and from a moosetalk perspective, nobody was really high or low on him. Seems like the team was doing fine for where they were at in their cycle at the time. Seems like he was fired by someone high up on the team for not liking the sound of his defecations at the Metro Centre or something silly. Nobody could look at his time as coach of the Mooseheads and said they underperformed.
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Post by coleminer on Apr 20, 2024 9:23:34 GMT -4
The G.O.A.T moosehead Marcel Barinka I hate to break it to you, a comment like this says more about you than Marcel Barinka. How many years ago was he now? 4?
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Post by bearpass9 on Apr 20, 2024 18:15:09 GMT -4
Alex Tanguay?
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Post by Jacques Strap on Apr 20, 2024 20:20:09 GMT -4
The G.O.A.T moosehead Marcel Barinka I hate to break it to you, a comment like this says more about you than Marcel Barinka. How many years ago was he now? 4? I don't understand the point of your comment. Obviously he was joking. So we are not allowed to talk about past players? There is an expiry date of referencing past Moosehead's players?
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Post by hfxfan09 on Apr 20, 2024 21:36:49 GMT -4
He'd be a great choice if he's local and willing to stick around for a bit.
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