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Post by rowcfanatic on Jul 27, 2008 9:54:46 GMT -4
seems like brenton did a great job at the chowder cup. I liked his statements earlier that he was going to work hard to get ready for a much better season. This type of attitude will go a long way to secure his spot on the team. Now if we can only get this type of enthusiasm from Lessard and Cameron, we could have a really good team, even if young. Probably a real contender is too much to hope for, but a team in upper half of league, and strong enough to go a couple of rounds in play-offs is not out of the question if we have some of our 18's and 19's having a break-out year and our rookies contribute by the end of season.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 27, 2008 11:03:23 GMT -4
seems like brenton did a great job at the chowder cup. I liked his statements earlier that he was going to work hard to get ready for a much better season. This type of attitude will go a long way to secure his spot on the team. Now if we can only get this type of enthusiasm from Lessard and Cameron, we could have a really good team, even if young. Probably a real contender is too much to hope for, but a team in upper half of league, and strong enough to go a couple of rounds in play-offs is not out of the question if we have some of our 18's and 19's having a break-out year and our rookies contribute by the end of season. The problem with Brenton is not his attitude, it's that he doesn't accomplish much on the ice except skating fast(or moving his legs real fast). |
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Post by Optimus Reim on Jul 27, 2008 13:09:19 GMT -4
He scored a couple of goals so far in the Chowder cup. They are going to the semi's. I think he can score just needs to be a little more opportunistic with his chances. He just seems to get stone hands when he gets them.
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Post by Dalkiel on Jul 27, 2008 13:17:28 GMT -4
seems like brenton did a great job at the chowder cup. I liked his statements earlier that he was going to work hard to get ready for a much better season. This type of attitude will go a long way to secure his spot on the team. Now if we can only get this type of enthusiasm from Lessard and Cameron, we could have a really good team, even if young. Probably a real contender is too much to hope for, but a team in upper half of league, and strong enough to go a couple of rounds in play-offs is not out of the question if we have some of our 18's and 19's having a break-out year and our rookies contribute by the end of season. The problem with Brenton is not his attitude, it's that he doesn't accomplish much on the ice except skating fast(or moving his legs real fast). I agree Billy. His only upside other than his speed is his penalty kill and for the quality of kids coming to camp, I wouldn't want to waste a spot on a 19 year old penalty killer. Unless he has a stellar camp, he won't be a Cat this year and as far as trading him for anything better than a 7th would be gold. |
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Post by Dalkiel on Jul 27, 2008 13:20:05 GMT -4
I can still remember how exciting it was when he got his first 10-15 breakaways (which is what 10-15 games), now I hardly bother watching cause I know the end result each and every time.
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Post by rowcfanatic on Jul 28, 2008 10:25:18 GMT -4
Tsk! Tsk! Such negativity.
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Post by IslandersHKY on Jul 28, 2008 12:05:00 GMT -4
Outside looking in here but I am surprise that there is so much discussion that Brenton shouldn't be back on the Wildcats this season.
To me he exibits exactly what you want to bring back. He is a great skater, tremendous character and work ethic and the type of player who is a good role model for all that young high end talent you have. Of course he isn't a high end offensive player but is that even a role that you need him to fill?
Looking at your roster your top 9 are roughly:
Bidduke, Cameron, Eagles, Sill, Lessard, Brannon, Brown, MacAusland, Formier.
And you have several 16/17 yr olds who will likely make the team.
But wouldn't Brenton be a good to play 4th line / penatly kill where he doesn't need to be an offensive presence but instead contribute with his solid play and to provide some experience/stability for the rest of that 4th line.
That way the rest of the 4th line can be filled with 16/17 yr old rookies if needed.
To me the question shouldn't be should Brenton return it is will he return for that 4th line role?
And if I were a wildcat fan I would be hoping he does.
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Post by jimmy on Jul 28, 2008 13:04:18 GMT -4
I don't think it is a foregone conclusion that Brenton is going to be cut ... far from it, and for many of the reasons hockeyfan99 mentions. That being said, I do think he needs to show signs of life with a good camp - he was promising at 17, but then seemed to go backwards in his development at 18.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 28, 2008 13:07:04 GMT -4
Outside looking in here but I am surprise that there is so much discussion that Brenton shouldn't be back on the Wildcats this season. To me he exibits exactly what you want to bring back. He is a great skater, tremendous character and work ethic and the type of player who is a good role model for all that young high end talent you have. Of course he isn't a high end offensive player but is that even a role that you need him to fill? Looking at your roster your top 9 are roughly: Bidduke, Cameron, Eagles, Sill, Lessard, Brannon, Brown, MacAusland, Formier. And you have several 16/17 yr olds who will likely make the team. But wouldn't Brenton be a good to play 4th line / penatly kill where he doesn't need to be an offensive presence but instead contribute with his solid play and to provide some experience/stability for the rest of that 4th line. That way the rest of the 4th line can be filled with 16/17 yr old rookies if needed. To me the question shouldn't be should Brenton return it is will he return for that 4th line role? And if I were a wildcat fan I would be hoping he does. I don't see the point of keeping Breton playing on a 4th line at 19. Guys like Sill Lessard Brannon and Eagles are already there to provide leadership and can contribute on PK plus they bring more size or skill than him. I'd rather use that spot on a younger guy with more upside like Bissonnette, Roski, Noseworthy, Cisse(if he reports), Stevens, O'brien etc |
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Post by IslandersHKY on Jul 28, 2008 13:26:23 GMT -4
Looking at your roster your top 9 are roughly: Bidduke, Cameron, Eagles, Sill, Lessard, Brannon, Brown, MacAusland, Formier. If you had a roster full of experienced 18-19-20 yr olds I would agree with you. But this season out of the 9 "locks" listed 2 are 17 yr olds and one is a Euro rookie. Which is why keeping Brenton for some experience of your 4th line or his ability to play 3rd line would be useful. And even if you kept him there would still be likely 4 other openings for the 16/17 yr old players you listed. Stephens being the exception. I overlooked him since he barely played last season and I don't really know much about him. But I guess he could be kept as an alternative to Brenton given that he is a year younger. But I like Brenton and IMO keeping him and 4 16/17 yr old rookies would be better than keeing 5 16/17 yr old rookies and letting Brenton go. And if you did I am sure he is a player who would be picked up on Waivers. |
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Post by Dalkiel on Jul 28, 2008 14:00:17 GMT -4
Outside looking in here but I am surprise that there is so much discussion that Brenton shouldn't be back on the Wildcats this season. To me he exibits exactly what you want to bring back. He is a great skater, tremendous character and work ethic and the type of player who is a good role model for all that young high end talent you have. Of course he isn't a high end offensive player but is that even a role that you need him to fill? Looking at your roster your top 9 are roughly: Bidduke, Cameron, Eagles, Sill, Lessard, Brannon, Brown, MacAusland, Formier. And you have several 16/17 yr olds who will likely make the team. But wouldn't Brenton be a good to play 4th line / penatly kill where he doesn't need to be an offensive presence but instead contribute with his solid play and to provide some experience/stability for the rest of that 4th line. That way the rest of the 4th line can be filled with 16/17 yr old rookies if needed. To me the question shouldn't be should Brenton return it is will he return for that 4th line role? And if I were a wildcat fan I would be hoping he does. Like Billy said, I wouldn't waste a 4th line player on a 19 year old. As far as work ethic, we have a few good leaders in that department, ie: Sill, Eagles and Brannon to name a few. I think McAusland could provide similiar speed to shut down the passing lanes on the penalty kill. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 28, 2008 14:10:03 GMT -4
Looking at your roster your top 9 are roughly: Bidduke, Cameron, Eagles, Sill, Lessard, Brannon, Brown, MacAusland, Formier. If you had a roster full of experienced 18-19-20 yr olds I would agree with you. But this season out of the 9 "locks" listed 2 are 17 yr olds and one is a Euro rookie. Which is why keeping Brenton for some experience of your 4th line or his ability to play 3rd line would be useful. And even if you kept him there would still be likely 4 other openings for the 16/17 yr old players you listed. Stephens being the exception. I overlooked him since he barely played last season and I don't really know much about him. But I guess he could be kept as an alternative to Brenton given that he is a year younger. But I like Brenton and IMO keeping him and 4 16/17 yr old rookies would be better than keeing 5 16/17 yr old rookies and letting Brenton go. And if you did I am sure he is a player who would be picked up on Waivers. You need experience in your regular forwards, not on the 4th line...and especially not on a rebuilding team. On a team like the Cats(around .500 at best next year), it makes no sense to cut a young player and keep a 19 year old with not much upside. |
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Post by mikeb on Jul 28, 2008 14:14:09 GMT -4
Outside looking in here but I am surprise that there is so much discussion that Brenton shouldn't be back on the Wildcats this season. To me he exibits exactly what you want to bring back. He is a great skater, tremendous character and work ethic and the type of player who is a good role model for all that young high end talent you have. Of course he isn't a high end offensive player but is that even a role that you need him to fill? Looking at your roster your top 9 are roughly: Bidduke, Cameron, Eagles, Sill, Lessard, Brannon, Brown, MacAusland, Formier. And you have several 16/17 yr olds who will likely make the team. But wouldn't Brenton be a good to play 4th line / penatly kill where he doesn't need to be an offensive presence but instead contribute with his solid play and to provide some experience/stability for the rest of that 4th line. That way the rest of the 4th line can be filled with 16/17 yr old rookies if needed. To me the question shouldn't be should Brenton return it is will he return for that 4th line role? And if I were a wildcat fan I would be hoping he does. Just like when they kept Morehouse when his production on the team was minimal. |
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Post by mikeb on Jul 28, 2008 14:17:20 GMT -4
If you had a roster full of experienced 18-19-20 yr olds I would agree with you. But this season out of the 9 "locks" listed 2 are 17 yr olds and one is a Euro rookie. Which is why keeping Brenton for some experience of your 4th line or his ability to play 3rd line would be useful. And even if you kept him there would still be likely 4 other openings for the 16/17 yr old players you listed. Stephens being the exception. I overlooked him since he barely played last season and I don't really know much about him. But I guess he could be kept as an alternative to Brenton given that he is a year younger. But I like Brenton and IMO keeping him and 4 16/17 yr old rookies would be better than keeing 5 16/17 yr old rookies and letting Brenton go. And if you did I am sure he is a player who would be picked up on Waivers. You need experience in your regular forwards, not on the 4th line...and especially not on a rebuilding team. On a team like the Cats(around .500 at best next year), it makes no sense to cut a young player and keep a 19 year old with not much upside. The Wildcats kept Morehouse didn't they. Physical play and dumb penalties is what he brought..... along with leadership on a team that was rebuilding for 2 years. |
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Post by Dalkiel on Jul 28, 2008 14:22:59 GMT -4
You need experience in your regular forwards, not on the 4th line...and especially not on a rebuilding team. On a team like the Cats(around .500 at best next year), it makes no sense to cut a young player and keep a 19 year old with not much upside. The Wildcats kept Morehouse didn't they. Physical play and dumb penalties is what he brought..... along with leadership on a team that was rebuilding for 2 years. For every 1 "dumb" penalty Moorehouse had he drew 4 penalties...I'll take that ratio anyday along with a player with the heart that he has. |
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