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Post by SteveUL on Aug 27, 2008 10:22:32 GMT -4
I thought it happened on the last day of trades...crap, it actually happens AT THE END OF THE TRADING PERIOD IN AUGUST, so I guess that means September 3rd. So, Brenton COULD be affiliated, but why would he accept that if he didn't have to...he may get picked in the draft (which is real messed up this year because somebody at the league forgot to change the rules, so technically there is supposed to be a draft on both September 2nd AND September 3rd (the 2nd and 1st in the rule book respectively). With training camps just opening on Aug 29 and games on the 31st ... how in the hell will teams decide by Sept 2 or 3 which 19 YOs will go on waivers ? 19 YOs can be cut at pretty much anytime really ... it happens sporadically through the season. They can then be held on protected lists until the deadline in February ... usually around the 10th I think. So the Wildcats can offer Brenton a roster spot and then cut him in October if they want to.
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Aug 27, 2008 10:24:20 GMT -4
I watched a little of the Monday conditioning camp. There are a lot of players there who I don't recognize. I did over hear one saying he was going back to University so I don't know who is seriously trying to make the Wildcats and who is just conditioning. I did notice that there were many guys better than Breton there and Flynn's comments would be very true if even 2/3 ot the players were Wildcat hopefuls. There were two defensemen who I was really impressed with but I have no idea who they are. One with a white shirt and the other with Red helmet and shit and black socks with a white stripe up the back like a skunk. They played together that night.
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Post by bjindaho on Aug 27, 2008 10:24:54 GMT -4
yes, they can...they could any other year as well...the draft for 19s without contracts is going to become pretty stupid when it happens within a week of camp opening up...
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Post by jimmy on Aug 27, 2008 10:27:53 GMT -4
his skating would make him a good candidate for a checking line...the question is whether or not he'll buy into facing opponents' top lines night in and night out... If you are talking about Brenton, it is not an issue. The kid has plenty of heart and desire, and I suspect would gladly take on any role which saw him get regular ice time. I am not convinced he is suited to a third line role ... while he works hard and can be a pesky forechecker, he is very easily muscled off the puck ... so if he is matched up against the other teams top line, spending a fair amount of time in his own end of the rink, his losing one-on-one battles could be quite costly in goals against. Truth betold, I am not sure what his role is ... if he added muscle, he could be a solid third liner ... an extra year of experience could also see him start to bury some of the offensive chances he never seemed able to capitalize on in the past ... but if neither of these materialize in camp, it is hard to see him making the team this year based solely on what he did in the past.
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 27, 2008 10:30:47 GMT -4
yes, they can...they could any other year as well...the draft for 19s without contracts is going to become pretty stupid when it happens within a week of camp opening up... Yes ... the date should be set sometime in mid September when training camps close ... and another in October when NHL camps close and drafted/invited players return ... bumping a few guys that are on the bubble.
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Post by bjindaho on Aug 27, 2008 10:34:09 GMT -4
maybe he'll turn into Alexandre Monahan (insert incredibly pissed smiley here)
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Post by habh8er on Aug 27, 2008 10:42:25 GMT -4
maybe he'll turn into Alexandre Monahan (insert incredibly pissed smiley here) I wonder if Monahan will follow up last years success with another good year, or if his "stars just lined up" last year. Hopefully Charland will have a big year and even things out .
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Post by 1fan on Aug 27, 2008 10:47:14 GMT -4
Really ? to me ... Brenton and Morehouse are the identical player ... physically identical in size, skating style, effort ... but Morehouse had the crazy edge that Brenton does not have ... and that made him more valuable. Brenton had 6 goals as an 18 YO getting 4th line ice time while Morehouse got 16 as a 20 YO playing close to 30 mins a game with veteran players. I think Brenton could probably get closer to 16 with Morehouse's ice time and being a year older. I'm not saying Brenton could play just as well as Morehouse ... Morehouse was unique in his intensity and playing style ... but Brenton brings similar skills to that line in speed and work ethic. I think Lessard is probably a better fit physically though on that line but he lacks the intensity and work ethic that is needed on that line. I don't see a spot for Lessard or Brenton if it is not on that Sill/Brannon line. Are you suggesting Brenton lacks heart ? I think that is Brenton's biggest asset ... he works his butt off every shift. No, I'm not suggesting Brenton lacks heart, he just doesn't have what Moorehouse did, I'm sure we can agree to that. If Moorehouse had 1/4 of the breakaways that Brenton did, Moorehouse I'm sure would be a 30 g scorer. One huge difference you're forgetting to look at is the ability of Moorehouse to work the puck along the boards. His abilility to cycle and handle the puck in traffic was also better. While Bretton may no longer be afraid of his own shadow...you can't compare their ability or willingness to be first on the puck at all. Chris also has the better hockey sense IMO. By the way I'm not crapping on Brenton, I love to watch him fly and also think he's made great strides as a player but saying he's the same as Moorehouse is a stretch. Maybe what you mean Dalkiel is that you can see the Cat's trying to use him in a similiar role...but they are not the same player IMO.
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Post by forrest on Aug 27, 2008 11:10:50 GMT -4
As per this mornings T & T: - Biduke has apparently shown up in great shape, down 15 pounds from the end of last season Did he cut his hair? ;D ;D
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Post by SteveUL on Aug 27, 2008 11:14:48 GMT -4
Really ? to me ... Brenton and Morehouse are the identical player ... physically identical in size, skating style, effort ... but Morehouse had the crazy edge that Brenton does not have ... and that made him more valuable. Brenton had 6 goals as an 18 YO getting 4th line ice time while Morehouse got 16 as a 20 YO playing close to 30 mins a game with veteran players. I think Brenton could probably get closer to 16 with Morehouse's ice time and being a year older. I'm not saying Brenton could play just as well as Morehouse ... Morehouse was unique in his intensity and playing style ... but Brenton brings similar skills to that line in speed and work ethic. I think Lessard is probably a better fit physically though on that line but he lacks the intensity and work ethic that is needed on that line. I don't see a spot for Lessard or Brenton if it is not on that Sill/Brannon line. Are you suggesting Brenton lacks heart ? I think that is Brenton's biggest asset ... he works his butt off every shift. No, I'm not suggesting Brenton lacks heart, he just doesn't have what Moorehouse did, I'm sure we can agree to that. If Moorehouse had 1/4 of the breakaways that Brenton did, Moorehouse I'm sure would be a 30 g scorer. You keep forgetting that one was 20 and one was 18 ... how did Morehouse do at 18 in the Q ?
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Post by forrest on Aug 27, 2008 11:16:29 GMT -4
The only thing I see similar in Brenton and Morehouse are their size and skating. Morehouse could throw a check that would actually move other players, even bigger than him. He could cycle the puck, hold on to the puck, retrieve the puck and play along the board.
I believe Brenton had a little more speed, better stick handling and a better vision. The thing I liked about him is he could play 3rd and 4th line, be moved on the 2nd PK unit and he would rarely be caught out of position.
I think the reason some people see similarities is because of their size and their similar role they had with the team.
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Post by Wheelies on Aug 27, 2008 11:27:05 GMT -4
I watched a little of the Monday conditioning camp. There are a lot of players there who I don't recognize. I did over hear one saying he was going back to University so I don't know who is seriously trying to make the Wildcats and who is just conditioning. I did notice that there were many guys better than Breton there and Flynn's comments would be very true if even 2/3 ot the players were Wildcat hopefuls. There were two defensemen who I was really impressed with but I have no idea who they are. One with a white shirt and the other with Red helmet and shit and black socks with a white stripe up the back like a skunk. They played together that night. The two Defense that you are refearing to monday night. White shirt with the black was Andrew MacDonald....Black socks with the white stripe was Barbario....They have played together before..
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Post by Wheelies on Aug 27, 2008 11:30:53 GMT -4
I saw Breton three times during teh conditioning camp and he was buring the puck...He has improved his skill level over the summer, and can stil fly like the wind.. During teh tail end of teh season Breton was always in the middle of the scrums..I do remember him throwing a 6ft + guy on the ice last year... He may have more heart then people think..If i was Cameron I would be more concerned...
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Post by Dalkiel on Aug 27, 2008 12:01:59 GMT -4
No, I'm not suggesting Brenton lacks heart, he just doesn't have what Moorehouse did, I'm sure we can agree to that. If Moorehouse had 1/4 of the breakaways that Brenton did, Moorehouse I'm sure would be a 30 g scorer. You keep forgetting that one was 20 and one was 18 ... how did Morehouse do at 18 in the Q ? Chris didn't do too bad at 18, he only cracked the roster of the best WC team in franchise history, do you think the Brenton of last year could have played on that team? I highly doubt it let alone be invited to camp for that years team.
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Post by Dalkiel on Aug 27, 2008 12:05:51 GMT -4
I saw Breton three times during teh conditioning camp and he was buring the puck...He has improved his skill level over the summer, and can stil fly like the wind.. During teh tail end of teh season Breton was always in the middle of the scrums..I do remember him throwing a 6ft + guy on the ice last year... He may have more heart then people think..If i was Cameron I would be more concerned... BreNNNton may have been in the recieving end scrums, I'd like to have seen the situation where he "threw" this 6ft guy on the ice. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the guy sucks, I just think he doesn't belong on the team this year unless of course he pulls a 180. I very much agree with your Cameron statement however, I doubt he'd get straight up cut from the Cats, he'll get shopped and we'll get what we can for him
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