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Post by SteveUL on Oct 21, 2008 9:31:09 GMT -4
well I think the whole notion of a macMillan for Cameron trade is pretty ridiculous to begin with..... but I think you should be careful in suggesting who will and won't be back for sure as 20's. Alot will depend on this year probably.... if cameron has really taken a step forward and continues to improve in most facets of the game thruout the year it's quite likely his NHL team will sign him making him far from a certainty to be back as a 20 year old on the flipside if macMillan has a horrible season or unfortunately should sustain another major injury.... who is to say the Ducks will sign him for sure? (or is he already signed??) and maybe he does return to the Q as a 20 for the record I don't think it's unfair to suggest macMillan has never lived up to his hype in the Q ... but I'd still take him over randy cameron anyday I don't think anybody said that MacMillain wasn't better than Cameron ... only saying the upgarde isn't worth it this year. Cameron has been a bust for Detroit ... I'm surprised they drafted him in the first place ... and I'll be shocked if they sign him. MaMillain is a 1st round pick (Anaheim) ... Cameron a 5th (Detroit) ... which one do you think will be cut loose if one is ? MacMillain will be signed if he hasn't been already ... they won't waste a pick like that without giving a bit more time. Cameron has been given all sorts of opportunities in Moncton and just hasn't stepped up ... he is a decent player but will probably be playing hockey in the AUS in 2 years. If Cameron does manage to go pro next year ... then we still wouldn't have MacMillain.
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Post by bois on Oct 21, 2008 9:46:58 GMT -4
MacMillan was a first round pick from a GM heading out the door
I think Detroit has found many successful pro players in the 5th round and beyond.. moreso than any other team (not suggesting Cameron necessarily will be one)
You won't have MacMillan because you won't make that trade.... which I stated at the first of my post
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 21, 2008 10:06:14 GMT -4
MacMillan was a first round pick from a GM heading out the door I think Detroit has found many successful pro players in the 5th round and beyond.. moreso than any other team (not suggesting Cameron necessarily will be one) You won't have MacMillan because you won't make that trade.... which I stated at the first of my post And also why I called it a hypothetical trade ... because it makes no sense for Halifax.
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Post by qfan on Oct 21, 2008 11:55:20 GMT -4
The big thing I guess would be that Cameron will probably be playing next year in the Q whereas MacMillan probably won't.
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 21, 2008 12:02:04 GMT -4
The big thing I guess would be that Cameron will probably be playing next year in the Q whereas MacMillan probably won't. No ... the big thing is that the trade will never happen ... because Halifax doesn't want a 19 YO semi-bust.
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Post by bjindaho on Oct 21, 2008 12:03:52 GMT -4
and that they seem to vastly overrate Macmillan!
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Post by SteveUL on Oct 21, 2008 12:09:23 GMT -4
and that they seem to vastly overrate Macmillan! I think you are over-rating the over-rating of MacMillan by Moose fans by using the term "vastly" ... I think he is a solid player that will have more than one interested team after his services ... and what he brings in a trade will depend on how crazy the market is.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 21, 2008 12:13:06 GMT -4
and that they seem to vastly overrate Macmillan! I think you are over-rating the over-rating of MacMillan by Moose fans by using the term "vastly" ... I think he is a solid player that will have more than one interested team after his services ... and what he brings in a trade will depend on how crazy the market is. I'm sure a lot of teams will be interested and he will get good return. I just don't see Moncton wanting or needing him. Trading Cameron for him does not add anything they are missing and it costs a very good pick. The argument that the Cats have toop many picks is BS. You can always trade 2009 picks for 2010 pick and do the same in 2010 until you need them. A 2nd rounder can also get you a top flight 20 year old at the draft if Rio and Cameron were to sign with a pro team....or a huge upgrade in the Euro draft.
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Post by bjindaho on Oct 21, 2008 12:15:54 GMT -4
I'm not sure I'd want him on Saint John...the assets it would cost wouldn't necessarily justify the return (especially since with a couple of upgrades, he'd be on our 3rd line)
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Post by qfan on Oct 21, 2008 13:01:19 GMT -4
I wonder what it will take for Byron to get traded? I would love to add him to the Moncton line up.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 21, 2008 13:54:58 GMT -4
I wonder what it will take for Byron to get traded? I would love to add him to the Moncton line up. My guess would be a kid like Bissonnette plus a late 1st or early 2nd. I'm sure a team like Rimouski and St.John also will be in the running. Not sure the Cats want to trade that much in their current position.
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Post by rudolph on Oct 21, 2008 14:51:56 GMT -4
ok now that the Cameron/Macmillan debate is almost over... how about a debate on a trade involving Riopel vs J. Allen
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Post by Captain Obvious on Oct 21, 2008 14:53:55 GMT -4
ok now that the Cameron/Macmillan debate is almost over... how about a debate on a trade involving Riopel vs J. Allen I wouldn't do it straight up right now unless I was sure Rio was not coming back next year. That deal wouldn't make much sense for Montreal either. I'm sure they could upgrade more elswhere.
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Post by jimmy on Oct 21, 2008 15:04:18 GMT -4
The only big move that I could see making sense for the Cats is adding a high end 20 year old defenseman ... I think we are thin on the blueline, not so much right now, but if we have any injuries whatsoever we don't really have a 7th guy who you would want to see on the ice each game ...
Who are the top 20 year old d-men? Paris is one ... who else? Maybe dangle our first or a second round pick, plus either a non-roster prospect (O'Brien? Daoust? Downe?) and/or a 20 year old at the draft (whichever of the Cameron/Brannon/Lessard trio we decide is not going to be in our plans for next year).
For that matter, what would M-A Bourdon cost? Would our 1st plus Daoust plus say Lessard at the draft do it?
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Post by bois on Oct 21, 2008 15:11:56 GMT -4
I think Bourdon is gonna cost alot .. probably the biggest prize available this year at the deadline
Is there even another 19 year old dman who could compare to him that would be available???
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