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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:16:27 GMT -4
Post by bois on Nov 23, 2009 16:16:27 GMT -4
we could use him now..... but don't toss in Amyot into your trade proposals
and Duffy is not available..... start the talks
oh yeah reason Knotek could be an option now... Tokoi is gone home (not a surprise really) so we will have an open Euro slot
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:21:37 GMT -4
Post by howitzer on Nov 23, 2009 16:21:37 GMT -4
Funny, I just posted on the topic over on your board. Interesting idea to throw out. To PEI: Knotek Amyot To Halifax: Duffy MacLean 2nd
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:24:51 GMT -4
Post by bois on Nov 23, 2009 16:24:51 GMT -4
Maclean and a 2nd for Knotek and a 5th
Duffy not available
Amyot not helpful
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:28:44 GMT -4
Post by Murph on Nov 23, 2009 16:28:44 GMT -4
Halifax has no need for any '91's, unless they're high end.... meaning they can be dealt next year for something of significant value, or they'll be an overager on a contender. MacLean is neither.
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:35:33 GMT -4
Post by Fred The Moose on Nov 23, 2009 16:35:33 GMT -4
We don't need to trade thomas Knotek for so litttle he is worth more than Mac Lean and a second rounder..
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:38:34 GMT -4
Post by howitzer on Nov 23, 2009 16:38:34 GMT -4
My proposal was sarcastic
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:41:32 GMT -4
Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 16:41:32 GMT -4
Knotek has lifted his game this year there have been many games that he has been the best player on either teams. He has the skill to take over a game and score. A team taking a run at the playoffs would do well with getting Knotek.
Duffy and maybe Escott are the only players on PEI that I would consider. Draft picke we are in good shape, we need offensive talent.
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:41:48 GMT -4
Post by howitzer on Nov 23, 2009 16:41:48 GMT -4
This is all speculating right now, so we need to be careful, but say these 2 teams do work out a deal, any chance we could get Oligny from them? Euros are tough to trade, their value can be hard to determine, but Knotek is high end and if putting points on the board with little skill around him.
So 1 for 1, Knotek for Oligny....is that unrealistic?
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:47:49 GMT -4
Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 16:47:49 GMT -4
This is all speculating right now, so we need to be careful, but say these 2 teams do work out a deal, any chance we could get Oligny from them? Euros are tough to trade, their value can be hard to determine, but Knotek is high end and if putting points on the board with little skill around him. So 1 for 1, Knotek for Oligny....is that unrealistic? I know high end defense is always desireable but looking at our team I see the need for forwards moreso. Personally If we were to trade Knotek it would have to be for a kings ransom as he is one of the players that make you want to go to the rink.
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:51:42 GMT -4
Post by howitzer on Nov 23, 2009 16:51:42 GMT -4
This is all speculating right now, so we need to be careful, but say these 2 teams do work out a deal, any chance we could get Oligny from them? Euros are tough to trade, their value can be hard to determine, but Knotek is high end and if putting points on the board with little skill around him. So 1 for 1, Knotek for Oligny....is that unrealistic? I know high end defense is always desireable but looking at our team I see the need for forwards moreso. Personally If we were to trade Knotek it would have to be for a kings ransom as he is one of the players that make you want to go to the rink. I agree the focus should be on forwards, but you can never have enough good quality defencemen. If a deal is on the table with the quality you're looking for, you make the deal, regardless if it's for F or D. Scoring forwards are easier to find then good defencemen. Plus we have a lot of picks, plus our euro, so if a good young defencemen can be had, they you gotta pull the trigger.
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:56:51 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 23, 2009 16:56:51 GMT -4
This is all speculating right now, so we need to be careful, but say these 2 teams do work out a deal, any chance we could get Oligny from them? Euros are tough to trade, their value can be hard to determine, but Knotek is high end and if putting points on the board with little skill around him. So 1 for 1, Knotek for Oligny....is that unrealistic? I know high end defense is always desireable but looking at our team I see the need for forwards moreso. Personally If we were to trade Knotek it would have to be for a kings ransom as he is one of the players that make you want to go to the rink. I think Knotek is a guy that could have decent value, as long as you're not asking for Bourdon/Marchand type return. He's a good player but he is more of a complimentary player than a guy that will make his linemates better, a 70-75 point guy on a contender. I think Oligny or a 1st rounder is about on par with his value.
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 16:57:32 GMT -4
Post by Murph on Nov 23, 2009 16:57:32 GMT -4
This is all speculating right now, so we need to be careful, but say these 2 teams do work out a deal, any chance we could get Oligny from them? Euros are tough to trade, their value can be hard to determine, but Knotek is high end and if putting points on the board with little skill around him. So 1 for 1, Knotek for Oligny....is that unrealistic? Euros generally are cheaper than the typical player because of the limitations. However, there are multiple teams out there with spots available, and Knotek is the only non-20 year old out there. Olsson can't go back to PEI, and Stich takes up two spots, which would be an unlikely move if PEI is a serious buyer. Knotek for Oligny isn't unrealistic IMO. High end player now, for high end player of the future. Hard to say if that appeals to PEI, I don't know how deep their blueline prospects are. It's also hard to tell how serious they plan on being. A guy like Bishop could also go back to PEI to soften the blow of losing Oligny. If PEI targets a guy like Legace or Sauve, they won't get a guy like Bishop included as well. Obviously a deal for Knotek/Bishop would bring back more than just Oligny, but the Bishop angle may help the deal along, where otherwise PEI might just balk at the idea of dealing Oligny.
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 17:00:39 GMT -4
Post by Murph on Nov 23, 2009 17:00:39 GMT -4
I know high end defense is always desireable but looking at our team I see the need for forwards moreso. Personally If we were to trade Knotek it would have to be for a kings ransom as he is one of the players that make you want to go to the rink. I think Knotek is a guy that could have decent value, as long as you're not asking for Bourdon/Marchand type return. He's a good player but he is more of a complimentary player than a guy that will make his linemates better, a 70-75 point guy on a contender. I think Oligny or a 1st rounder is about on par with his value. You're assesment of Knotek is out-dated as far as I'm concerned. Last year or the year before, it fit, no question. However look at the numbers two 3rd liners (Randall and Grant) are putting up playing with Knotek, and tell me he doesn't make others better. Plus Knotek faces the best defenders (forwards and defence) every game, with little to no help. The fact that he is putting up over a ppg on this Mooseheads team, is pretty damn good.
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Nov 23, 2009 17:01:36 GMT -4
Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2009 17:01:36 GMT -4
This is all speculating right now, so we need to be careful, but say these 2 teams do work out a deal, any chance we could get Oligny from them? Euros are tough to trade, their value can be hard to determine, but Knotek is high end and if putting points on the board with little skill around him. So 1 for 1, Knotek for Oligny....is that unrealistic? Euros generally are cheaper than the typical player because of the limitations. However, there are multiple teams out there with spots available, and Knotek is the only non-20 year old out there. Olsson can't go back to PEI, and Stich takes up two spots, which would be an unlikely move if PEI is a serious buyer. Knotek for Oligny isn't unrealistic IMO. High end player now, for high end player of the future. Hard to say if that appeals to PEI, I don't know how deep their blueline prospects are. It's also hard to tell how serious they plan on being. A guy like Bishop could also go back to PEI to soften the blow of losing Oligny. If PEI targets a guy like Legace or Sauve, they won't get a guy like Bishop included as well. Obviously a deal for Knotek/Bishop would bring back more than just Oligny, but the Bishop angle may help the deal along, where otherwise PEI might just balk at the idea of dealing Oligny. That makes sense.......Knotek/Bishop for Ogilvy and Escott at the draft.
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Knotek
Nov 23, 2009 17:02:20 GMT -4
Post by Murph on Nov 23, 2009 17:02:20 GMT -4
Euros generally are cheaper than the typical player because of the limitations. However, there are multiple teams out there with spots available, and Knotek is the only non-20 year old out there. Olsson can't go back to PEI, and Stich takes up two spots, which would be an unlikely move if PEI is a serious buyer. Knotek for Oligny isn't unrealistic IMO. High end player now, for high end player of the future. Hard to say if that appeals to PEI, I don't know how deep their blueline prospects are. It's also hard to tell how serious they plan on being. A guy like Bishop could also go back to PEI to soften the blow of losing Oligny. If PEI targets a guy like Legace or Sauve, they won't get a guy like Bishop included as well. Obviously a deal for Knotek/Bishop would bring back more than just Oligny, but the Bishop angle may help the deal along, where otherwise PEI might just balk at the idea of dealing Oligny. That makes sense.......Knotek/Bishop for Ogilvy and Escott at the draft. That's very realistic IMO.... if Knotek is willing to move, which he may not be.
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