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Post by lessards1fan on Sept 12, 2007 12:10:56 GMT -4
Sorry but I like Swit!! He had a few rough games, but look at the first two he played..I think he's great and will be a great asset to our team...as for Clow..he is young but man needs alot of work...he put the puck in our own net for gods sake!!! Lovin' Swit almost as much as Lessard!!
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Post by 1barney22 on Sept 12, 2007 12:12:35 GMT -4
When did he put the puck in our own net?
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Post by Score on Sept 12, 2007 12:15:46 GMT -4
Sorry but I like Swit!! He had a few rough games, but look at the first two he played..I think he's great and will be a great asset to our team...as for Clow..he is young but man needs alot of work...he put the puck in our own net for gods sake!!! Lovin' Swit almost as much as Lessard!! Nothing against Swit personally, but he should not be in this league as a 20yr old. He will be gone be Christmas, IMO. The way Swit has played, he's 3rd pair right now.......and we need better from a 20. |
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Post by lessards1fan on Sept 12, 2007 13:47:15 GMT -4
When did he put the puck in our own net? one of the games against the fog devils in s'side |
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Post by 1barney22 on Sept 12, 2007 14:08:14 GMT -4
Funny, I must have missed that. Was that the game he was +4 with 2 assists or perhaps it was the other game he had 2 assists?
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Post by lessards1fan on Sept 12, 2007 14:19:35 GMT -4
Funny, I must have missed that. Was that the game he was +4 with 2 assists? Not Swit....Clow |
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Post by 1barney22 on Sept 12, 2007 14:20:39 GMT -4
I was talking about Clow.....he was +4 with 2 assists in the first game in Summy...and even with 2 assists in the second one
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Post by Krang7 on Sept 12, 2007 14:25:05 GMT -4
Even if he did put the puck in his own net at some point everyone makes mistakes from time to time, regardless of their age.
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Post by 1barney22 on Sept 12, 2007 14:27:39 GMT -4
Jordan Southorn makes more mistakes than any of the D on the Rocket...but he also does more good things than any other D. Its impossible to be perfect, and sometimes being imperfect has a better positive outcome. IMO, Clow is not a weaker player, hes just afraid to make mistakes. Once he relaxes a little, then you will see a much different guy. Thank you Krang for making that very valid point.
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Post by lessards1fan on Sept 12, 2007 14:54:12 GMT -4
Jordan Southorn makes more mistakes than any of the D on the Rocket...but he also does more good things than any other D. Its impossible to be perfect, and sometimes being imperfect has a better positive outcome. IMO, Clow is not a weaker player, hes just afraid to make mistakes. Once he relaxes a little, then you will see a much different guy. Thank you Krang for making that very valid point. but its ok to put swit down for a couple of crappy games....really make sense to me??!! how do u know that swit doesn't feel the same way??? anyway doesn't matter...we all think what we want to think and thats fine...we will all know more when regular season starts and if swit doesn't pick up his game, then I will agree with u..but i watched him and clow the last few games and thought he (swit) were the better of the two....that's it...discussion over for me...chow!! |
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Post by bois on Sept 12, 2007 15:25:22 GMT -4
Swit should be the better of the two he's 20 years old and a 3 year veteran of major junior
The problem most people have with Swit is that he's "supposed" to be a vet presence for our young blueline to look up to.. yet the two games I watched he looked very much like a 16-17 yr old rook playin his very first game
It isn't our fault he's 20.... he simply isn't good enough to be an overager on a team making a serious run.. hopefully the Rocket upgrade and Swit can still find somewhere else to play in this league.. however you're right it isn't happening anytime soon so as ol jr cormier used to say .. mase well support him for now
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Post by 1barney22 on Sept 12, 2007 15:29:44 GMT -4
Swit has been given a lot more opportunity than both Clow and Malouin, so I doubt his confidence is shaken. Hes 3 years older than them. He should be significantly better. My problem is that the kids need to get an opportunity to play and play in all situations, and they will rise to the occasion. They will not get that chance with Swit there because hes taking away playing opportunities for the kids. They will sit in the stands scratching their heads wondering what they gotta do to get a chance. If they want to keep Swit....FINE.....but then trade away the 17 year olds to someone who can use them when the next trading period comes and give them a chance to develop.
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Post by rocket2 on Sept 12, 2007 18:45:55 GMT -4
Every player makes mistakes, don't jump on Clow for his, the difference with Southorn at this point is that, yes, he does make mistakes, what makes him so good though is how he reacts to it. Does he give up? Does he sulk? Does he blame others? NO, he responds and works his ass off. With Clow expect mistakes, same as any other player, the deciding factor will be how he reacts and learns. Is Clow going to be a top 4 D man on this team this year like Southorn was last, who knows, with talent it is a long race. As for putting the puck in his own net, tell me one D man who hasn't had the puck go off his skate, in this league or any other.
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Post by lessards1fan on Sept 12, 2007 20:10:07 GMT -4
Every player makes mistakes, don't jump on Clow for his, the difference with Southorn at this point is that, yes, he does make mistakes, what makes him so good though is how he reacts to it. Does he give up? Does he sulk? Does he blame others? NO, he responds and works his ass off. With Clow expect mistakes, same as any other player, the deciding factor will be how he reacts and learns. Is Clow going to be a top 4 D man on this team this year like Southorn was last, who knows, with talent it is a long race. As for putting the puck in his own net, tell me one D man who hasn't had the puck go off his skate, in this league or any other. I agree with u totally I'm just saying don't jump on Swit either...just because he is a "veteran" doesn't mean shit...he is young and he is with a whole new team and atmosphere..don't judge him till he gets some games played into the season...and if you find he is still not playing to his potential...then make judgements about him..that is all I'm saying...and I only made the comments about Clow to prove a point that it isn't just Swit who screws up.... |
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Post by Score on Sept 12, 2007 20:22:35 GMT -4
Every player makes mistakes, don't jump on Clow for his, the difference with Southorn at this point is that, yes, he does make mistakes, what makes him so good though is how he reacts to it. Does he give up? Does he sulk? Does he blame others? NO, he responds and works his ass off. With Clow expect mistakes, same as any other player, the deciding factor will be how he reacts and learns. Is Clow going to be a top 4 D man on this team this year like Southorn was last, who knows, with talent it is a long race. As for putting the puck in his own net, tell me one D man who hasn't had the puck go off his skate, in this league or any other. I agree with u totally I'm just saying don't jump on Swit either...just because he is a "veteran" doesn't mean shit...he is young and he is with a whole new team and atmosphere..don't judge him till he gets some games played into the season...and if you find he is still not playing to his potential...then make judgements about him..that is all I'm saying...and I only made the comments about Clow to prove a point that it isn't just Swit who screws up.... People who have seen Swit play the past couple seasons know what he's about. Majority of people agree that he is not a player that should be on a "contending" team as a 20yr old. If Swit is still with this team after Christmas, I'll be a monkeys uncle.  |
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