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Post by cb67 on Nov 23, 2014 1:13:14 GMT -4
I don't like the idea of moving the Russians at all. Not only are they playing well but Svechnikov brings a certain credibility to CB that hasn't been seen before and moving him would be very tough to explain. His name & probably 1st round draft status will be brought up to every European CB tries to recruit & every top end Quebecer who doesn't want to report. I don't think I can name a European that was ever drafted out of CB let alone a 1st rounder. I never really thought about it in that way. Affecting the future of draft pics. I think you make a pretty good point there.
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Post by looneytunes on Nov 23, 2014 1:27:18 GMT -4
I don't like the idea of moving the Russians because I do not think we will ever luck out on such a great duo ever again.
We will probably still get the odd star but a great duo is unlikely.
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Post by hal on Nov 23, 2014 9:54:50 GMT -4
Next Year is the Lowest Rated Draft in the Q in the last 6 or 7 years . That has to factor in to all this . I don;t pretend to know the formula but shouldn't the majority of them be moved then ? Quantity turned into hopefully Quality ?
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Post by hal on Nov 23, 2014 10:03:01 GMT -4
I don't like the idea of moving the Russians at all. Not only are they playing well but Svechnikov brings a certain credibility to CB that hasn't been seen before and moving him would be very tough to explain. His name & probably 1st round draft status will be brought up to every European CB tries to recruit & every top end Quebecer who doesn't want to report. I don't think I can name a European that was ever drafted out of CB let alone a 1st rounder. Unless you consider trading Darcy to a contender as 'selling', I don't think there is much selling to do. The only 19 year old is Nosella and teams won't be banging down the door for him as a rental. You'd have to pay for someone to take Brassard and Kyle Farrell isn't going anywhere. The rest of the roster is so young that any trade would be proven asset for proven asset which isn't exactly selling. I think a lot of people will be disappointed with the lack of big movement during the trade window. CB is in such a weird position and the moves they NEED to make are more suited for the offseason. Pavelec , Ramholt , Kloucek and "almost" Kovalchuk
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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 23, 2014 11:09:47 GMT -4
Pavelec , Ramholt , Kloucek and "almost" Kovalchuk All drafted before playing with CB. Pavelev drafted in 05 - first season 05-06 Kloucek drafted in 98 - first season 98-99 Ramholt drafted in 03 - first season 03-04 They didn't use CB to raise their draft profile.
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Post by eaglefan62 on Nov 23, 2014 11:18:01 GMT -4
Things are really a mess here and I am not going to beat a dead horse by sating what I think our problems are here. My wish list at the Christmas trade period would look something like this: 19 year old goaltender Guindon from Drumondville along with 19 year old d-man Gosselin and 19 year old forward Simpson from Bathurst. I believe all three will be back in the league next year as 20s and we would have a solid 19 year old group. I don't think we would have to empty the cupboards to acquire these three.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2014 11:26:51 GMT -4
I was hoping the Islanders would go after Goesselin at the deadline.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Nov 23, 2014 12:23:42 GMT -4
Do we start thinking outside the box and see what our Euro duo can command in a deal? When you really examine that situation it might not even be a horrible idea considering the way Euro picks are handled now. Svechnikov can't be traded until after the next import draft since he didn't report in the first year (Same deal as why SJ can't deal Siska)
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Post by looneytunes on Nov 23, 2014 15:05:12 GMT -4
I was hoping the Islanders would go after Goesselin at the deadline. I think CB is a bit more desperate and have the picks to easily outbid PEI. If they choose to go down that road.
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Post by bois on Nov 24, 2014 9:19:29 GMT -4
Do we start thinking outside the box and see what our Euro duo can command in a deal? When you really examine that situation it might not even be a horrible idea considering the way Euro picks are handled now. Svechnikov can't be traded until after the next import draft since he didn't report in the first year (Same deal as why SJ can't deal Siska) Not to mention it's incredibly difficult to trade one Euro let alone trying to trade both of them
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Post by Jack Bauer on Nov 24, 2014 16:15:21 GMT -4
Do we start thinking outside the box and see what our Euro duo can command in a deal? When you really examine that situation it might not even be a horrible idea considering the way Euro picks are handled now. Svechnikov can't be traded until after the next import draft since he didn't report in the first year (Same deal as why SJ can't deal Siska) Thanks for clearing that up. If the team hits rock bottom then an argument for trading Lazarev can be made I suppose to benefit from the high Euro pick. Lots of options.
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Post by hal on Nov 24, 2014 17:05:25 GMT -4
Could they have a deal where they can't be split up ? We would not have got Svechikov without Lazerev ....U can bet on that .
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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 25, 2014 0:20:04 GMT -4
Svechnikov can't be traded until after the next import draft since he didn't report in the first year (Same deal as why SJ can't deal Siska) Thanks for clearing that up. If the team hits rock bottom then an argument for trading Lazarev can be made I suppose to benefit from the high Euro pick. Lots of options. The high Euro pick could be used anyway because Svechnikov will be an NHL pick.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Nov 25, 2014 0:44:54 GMT -4
Thanks for clearing that up. If the team hits rock bottom then an argument for trading Lazarev can be made I suppose to benefit from the high Euro pick. Lots of options. The high Euro pick could be used anyway because Svechnikov will be an NHL pick. Only if he is a first round pick. He likely will but it's only first rounders that go on the special list.
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Post by jamesnorris on Nov 25, 2014 11:20:39 GMT -4
The high Euro pick could be used anyway because Svechnikov will be an NHL pick. Only if he is a first round pick. He likely will but it's only first rounders that go on the special list. Ye I think it's a forgone conclusion he's going in round 1 though. Russian factor drops kids but somebody always takes the shot in round 1 unless he shows an attitude like Kabanov lol
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