ronmac
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Post by ronmac on Aug 31, 2015 20:57:08 GMT -4
Funny thing is all these people comparing Moncton to Montreal or Toronto or even Halifax, we are a much smaller City, and most smaller cities have parking with the arena, we are not a major city and you are only fooling yourself if you think otherwise, most young people who wish to go out after a game just drive down town to do so, I can't see much of this changing because the arena is down town. I see more people not bothering to go down town to watch a game and then fight the traffic after you walk 10 or 15 minutes to get to your frozen vehicle. just my opinion, when we lived in Montreal we didn't bother going to watch to many games at the Bell Centre for the same reason.
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Post by downthemiddle on Aug 31, 2015 23:18:32 GMT -4
Moncton is a growing city, in some ways it's as big as a city can be while still being small. Hfx is a place that has both small and big city characteristics, Moncton would be moving in that direction trying to develop a bit of a walking culture with this new arena. Wouldn't be unprecedented as I think a lot of the development in current downtown Halifax came from the HMC being built.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 30, 2015 8:10:38 GMT -4
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 30, 2015 11:16:48 GMT -4
Well I doubt it does cause any friction with the City because they will be right out of the negotiations. I actually like this move ... having a professional group running the facility. They run facilities all over North America and can get access to entertainment easier than just having the City try to get an act to show up here. The Wildcats will get the same sort of deal that other teams get that play in modern facilities. That will include a share of concessions, private boxes, advertising, etc. They will pay rent for their use of the facility ... and being the primary tenant from day 1 will get dibs on playoff dates.
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Post by lirette on Apr 6, 2016 18:06:11 GMT -4
Here is a video walkthrough of the new approved design for the centre. They took a lot of feedback in public meetings and online and finally got rid of the ugly red blue green moncton colours to go with a more modern look that will age better.
You can see the public plaza in this walkthrough which is a separate 7 million dollar projec recently approved that accompanies the development. This includes green space, and a skating oval in the winter that will operate as a concert site in the summer months.
Hard not to get excited about all this. A lot of the groundwork has been laid on the site already with the outer structure supposed to be complete by fall and the inside will take the rest of the timeline up.
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Post by Bruce Wayne on Apr 7, 2016 7:24:34 GMT -4
I saw on another forum that Highfield St is also being extended on the backside of the centre to Vaughn Harvey.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 7, 2016 8:12:14 GMT -4
I saw on another forum that Highfield St is also being extended on the backside of the centre to Vaughn Harvey. That's pretty much how it was before they tore down Highfield Square, took you to the VIA station.
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Post by npsh on Apr 7, 2016 10:53:40 GMT -4
Have to admit it looks quite impressive. Having said that one has to wonder the cost STH, general admission and what will be parking facilities for Cats games.
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Post by lirette on Apr 7, 2016 12:43:01 GMT -4
Have to admit it looks quite impressive. Having said that one has to wonder the cost STH, general admission and what will be parking facilities for Cats games. Lots of factors at play there. Are the wildcats paying significantly higher rent at the new facility? To me significantly increasing ticket prices is counter productive. You want to increase foot traffic as much as possible to get the most success out of the new location. Which is beneficial to the Wildcats as well as the city. Theres an extra 2500 seats in this new building. Theres other ways this building is going to make money that the coliseum hasnt. The biggest one being the naming rights(500k a year?). Id hope they do everything in their power to keep the ticket pricing at the affordable level junior hockey operates on. You want people spending money before and after games, charging a family of 4 an extra 20 bucks a game doesnt support that model. In Saint John you can find parking for $2-3 , which is more than reasonable. Those who are willing to park further away and walk could potenially park free.
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tom
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Post by tom on Apr 7, 2016 18:05:49 GMT -4
The booters will have a field day and the Cats will be lucky to get 2000 fans per game after the novelty wears off!!
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Post by npsh on Apr 7, 2016 19:45:16 GMT -4
Have to admit it looks quite impressive. Having said that one has to wonder the cost STH, general admission and what will be parking facilities for Cats games. Lots of factors at play there. Are the wildcats paying significantly higher rent at the new facility? To me significantly increasing ticket prices is counter productive. You want to increase foot traffic as much as possible to get the most success out of the new location. Which is beneficial to the Wildcats as well as the city. Theres an extra 2500 seats in this new building. Theres other ways this building is going to make money that the coliseum hasnt. The biggest one being the naming rights(500k a year?). Id hope they do everything in their power to keep the ticket pricing at the affordable level junior hockey operates on. You want people spending money before and after games, charging a family of 4 an extra 20 bucks a game doesnt support that model. In Saint John you can find parking for $2-3 , which is more than reasonable. Those who are willing to park further away and walk could potenially park free. You raised very good points. The price we pay currently(STH, Flex or general admission) is more than reasonable for this level of hockey, at least this is how I see it.There is a core selection of long time season ticket holders around our area and what we are hearing is a wait and see for the new facility. Many are concerned about the increase ticket cost and as well cost associated with parking and will not renew as STH if the price to much - as they see it . Not to mention concessions(beer,coffee, food, snacks etc). Since the start of QMJH Cats 1996, we probably have been spoiled with ample free parking and reasonable ticket prices.It's gonna be interesting for sure.....
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 8, 2016 6:57:45 GMT -4
Lots of factors at play there. Are the wildcats paying significantly higher rent at the new facility? To me significantly increasing ticket prices is counter productive. You want to increase foot traffic as much as possible to get the most success out of the new location. Which is beneficial to the Wildcats as well as the city. Theres an extra 2500 seats in this new building. Theres other ways this building is going to make money that the coliseum hasnt. The biggest one being the naming rights(500k a year?). Id hope they do everything in their power to keep the ticket pricing at the affordable level junior hockey operates on. You want people spending money before and after games, charging a family of 4 an extra 20 bucks a game doesnt support that model. In Saint John you can find parking for $2-3 , which is more than reasonable. Those who are willing to park further away and walk could potenially park free. You raised very good points. The price we pay currently(STH, Flex or general admission) is more than reasonable for this level of hockey, at least this is how I see it.There is a core selection of long time season ticket holders around our area and what we are hearing is a wait and see for the new facility. Many are concerned about the increase ticket cost and as well cost associated with parking and will not renew as STH if the price to much - as they see it . Not to mention concessions(beer,coffee, food, snacks etc). Since the start of QMJH Cats 1996, we probably have been spoiled with ample free parking and reasonable ticket prices.It's gonna be interesting for sure..... I think the good news for Moncton fans is, Since RKI took over, the team seems to have a philosophy that they have to keep things affordable for families, heck then stocked the schedule for weekends and had 4pm Saturday games, from the start they had cheap concessions and a lot of deals on tickets plus giveaways to schools. I hope they are smart enough to do the math in terms of the cost of bringing families to the rink, including concessions and parking. If it's not affordable then they will lose a chunk of that market. They must have some kind of plan on parking, the city doesn't seem to worried, but the team would...
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Post by wildwilliesgrampy on Apr 8, 2016 6:58:52 GMT -4
I saw on another forum that Highfield St is also being extended on the backside of the centre to Vaughn Harvey. That's pretty much how it was before they tore down Highfield Square, took you to the VIA station. since the ground work has already started, just wondering why part of high field square and that old red brick building are still standing. also , does any one know what that bricked building was? never really noticed it before. seems odd that every thing on the site wouldn't be leveled at the same time.
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Post by lirette on Apr 8, 2016 7:03:37 GMT -4
That's pretty much how it was before they tore down Highfield Square, took you to the VIA station. since the ground work has already started, just wondering why part of high field square and that old red brick building are still standing. also , does any one know what that bricked building was? never really noticed it before. seems odd that every thing on the site wouldn't be leveled at the same time. I believe there was a purolator call centre inside that building most recently but i dont believe its occupied anymore.
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kuba
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Post by kuba on Apr 8, 2016 7:11:32 GMT -4
The City only purchased the Highfield Square property . Sobeys owned their building . The red brick building is CN Telecommunications building , that existed prior to Highfield Square being built in the late '60's . CN still owns it as well , and it is still used today . Obviously , these properties will become more valuable with the Downtown Centre next door . Developers and entrepreneurs will look at all the options , including parking . In addition , there are two parcels of land that the City acquired which will be sold and developed . These plans could also include parking . There is lots of opportunity surrounding the Centre for Private development , which surely will include parking . Remember , we are still about 30 months from completion and a lot can and will change in the surrounding area .
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