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Post by Davey Boy Smith on Jan 21, 2016 12:57:59 GMT -4
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Post by eagleog on Jan 21, 2016 13:27:27 GMT -4
Wouldn't shock me if he ended up going top of 10. I think he'll be back with us next year to develop unless he really impresses at camp. Overall I hope he ends up in the right situation where he can develop and take his time before making the permanent jump.
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Post by sherwood1020 on Jan 21, 2016 16:58:48 GMT -4
As much as I hate seeing my canadiens free-fall through the standings, I would love to see them get into a position to get him. A big, bilingual power forward who can do it all, just what every team needs.
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Post by hal on Jan 28, 2016 14:13:51 GMT -4
Dubois and Team Orr vs Team Cherry tonight at 10 pm ast in The Top Prospects Game on Sportsnet .
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 28, 2016 14:30:49 GMT -4
A big, bilingual power forward who can do it all, just what every team needs.There's only 1 team(or fan base I should say) concerning themselves with what languages their players speak. 29 other teams could give a fuck about whether their top pick comes from french speaking Quebec or somewhere in Timbuktu as long as the kid they pick is a player they can develop is the only concern. Perhaps if the Habs didn't obsess over the native language spoke in their province when looking for people to play for and work for their organization they wouldn't have as many draft busts, bad coaches, and smallish forwards their fan base is growing to hate. If the NHL put a team in Helsinki and they only wanted a Finnish coach and Finnish captain the rest of the NHL would sit back and wonder what the hell they were trying to do. There's zero reason to believe in 2016 that being bilingual gives you any step up on the rest of your competition in the game of hockey. But at this point there's actually good reason to view it as something holding back an organization like Montreal who refuses to move past it. As a fan of a rival team I hope they continue to only employ french coaches and prioritize drafting Quebec based talent.
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Post by bois on Jan 28, 2016 14:42:17 GMT -4
You may be right on the coaching and managerial component.... but drafting wise Montreal has not drafted many bilingual or quebecois players over recent years
in fact on the current roster the only francophone or quebec born players are
Desharnais (never drafted), Mitchell (traded for.. pretty sure he's anglophone tho), Barberio (traded for) and maybe Beaulieau
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 28, 2016 15:27:47 GMT -4
A big, bilingual power forward who can do it all, just what every team needs.There's only 1 team(or fan base I should say) concerning themselves with what languages their players speak. 29 other teams could give a fuck about whether their top pick comes from french speaking Quebec or somewhere in Timbuktu as long as the kid they pick is a player they can develop is the only concern. Perhaps if the Habs didn't obsess over the native language spoke in their province when looking for people to play for and work for their organization they wouldn't have as many draft busts, bad coaches, and smallish forwards their fan base is growing to hate. If the NHL put a team in Helsinki and they only wanted a Finnish coach and Finnish captain the rest of the NHL would sit back and wonder what the hell they were trying to do. There's zero reason to believe in 2016 that being bilingual gives you any step up on the rest of your competition in the game of hockey. But at this point there's actually good reason to view it as something holding back an organization like Montreal who refuses to move past it. As a fan of a rival team I hope they continue to only employ french coaches and prioritize drafting Quebec based talent. The Habs had only two Quebec native to start the year(Desharnais and Mitchell), so I don't think they make it a high priority. Moreso the media...
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 28, 2016 15:28:36 GMT -4
You may be right on the coaching and managerial component.... but drafting wise Montreal has not drafted many bilingual or quebecois players over recent years in fact on the current roster the only francophone or quebec born players are Desharnais (never drafted), Mitchell (traded for.. pretty sure he's anglophone tho), Barberio (traded for) and maybe Beaulieau Beaulieu's dad is French but he did all his school in English and only knows a few words.
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jan 28, 2016 15:35:41 GMT -4
There's only 1 team(or fan base I should say) concerning themselves with what languages their players speak. 29 other teams could give a fuck about whether their top pick comes from french speaking Quebec or somewhere in Timbuktu as long as the kid they pick is a player they can develop is the only concern. Perhaps if the Habs didn't obsess over the native language spoke in their province when looking for people to play for and work for their organization they wouldn't have as many draft busts, bad coaches, and smallish forwards their fan base is growing to hate. If the NHL put a team in Helsinki and they only wanted a Finnish coach and Finnish captain the rest of the NHL would sit back and wonder what the hell they were trying to do. There's zero reason to believe in 2016 that being bilingual gives you any step up on the rest of your competition in the game of hockey. But at this point there's actually good reason to view it as something holding back an organization like Montreal who refuses to move past it. As a fan of a rival team I hope they continue to only employ french coaches and prioritize drafting Quebec based talent. The Habs had only two Quebec native to start the year(Desharnais and Mitchell), so I don't think they make it a high priority. Moreso the media... Over the last few years they've had more french Canadians then most teams in the system...players like Hudon, Fucale, Fournier(recently moved), Audette, Gregoire, Bournival, Dumont plus drafted players like Beaulieu, Ellis and Andrighetto who played in the Q. Add in the fact that any coach seems to have to speak French in a league where even the Europeans and Russians are forced to learn English and no team should allow the media or local culture to dominate decisions in that matter. It should be the best person for the job, but the best bilingual person. We all agree there are great French coaches and players out there. But the Canadiens take it to another level and it's hurting their franchise. My team almost took the opposite approach and leaned away from drafting local kids from their backyard which also makes no sense because it's the biggest hockey breeding ground in the world. It took quite a radical approach to begin to change that model, but it definitely had to change. If Montreal's next coaching search brings in a Guy Boucher, the pressure to succeed will be almost impossible to live up to.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 28, 2016 15:56:35 GMT -4
The Habs had only two Quebec native to start the year(Desharnais and Mitchell), so I don't think they make it a high priority. Moreso the media... Over the last few years they've had more french Canadians then most teams in the system...players like Hudon, Fucale, Fournier(recently moved), Audette, Gregoire, Bournival, Dumont plus drafted players like Beaulieu, Ellis and Andrighetto who played in the Q. Add in the fact that any coach seems to have to speak French in a league where even the Europeans and Russians are forced to learn English and no team should allow the media or local culture to dominate decisions in that matter. It should be the best person for the job, but the best bilingual person. We all agree there are great French coaches and players out there. But the Canadiens take it to another level and it's hurting their franchise. My team almost took the opposite approach and leaned away from drafting local kids from their backyard which also makes no sense because it's the biggest hockey breeding ground in the world. It took quite a radical approach to begin to change that model, but it definitely had to change. If Montreal's next coaching search brings in a Guy Boucher, the pressure to succeed will be almost impossible to live up to. Percentage wise, the amount of Quebvec kids they have drafted is not much higher than the average, most of them being later(4th and later) round picks. Gregoire Dumont Hudon Fournier(FA) were all later pick or FA. Bournival was traded for(O'Byrne).
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Post by habsfan74 on Jan 28, 2016 21:02:11 GMT -4
A big, bilingual power forward who can do it all, just what every team needs.There's only 1 team(or fan base I should say) concerning themselves with what languages their players speak. 29 other teams could give a fuck about whether their top pick comes from french speaking Quebec or somewhere in Timbuktu as long as the kid they pick is a player they can develop is the only concern. Perhaps if the Habs didn't obsess over the native language spoke in their province when looking for people to play for and work for their organization they wouldn't have as many draft busts, bad coaches, and smallish forwards their fan base is growing to hate. If the NHL put a team in Helsinki and they only wanted a Finnish coach and Finnish captain the rest of the NHL would sit back and wonder what the hell they were trying to do. There's zero reason to believe in 2016 that being bilingual gives you any step up on the rest of your competition in the game of hockey. But at this point there's actually good reason to view it as something holding back an organization like Montreal who refuses to move past it. As a fan of a rival team I hope they continue to only employ french coaches and prioritize drafting Quebec based talent. with that being said I would love for them to get Dubois or Gauthier!
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Post by emerz on Jan 29, 2016 0:32:29 GMT -4
Dubois is absolutely killing it, 1G 2A so far with some great defensive plays and shot blocks.
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Post by sherwood1020 on Jan 29, 2016 0:37:34 GMT -4
A big, bilingual power forward who can do it all, just what every team needs.There's only 1 team(or fan base I should say) concerning themselves with what languages their players speak. 29 other teams could give a fuck about whether their top pick comes from french speaking Quebec or somewhere in Timbuktu as long as the kid they pick is a player they can develop is the only concern. Perhaps if the Habs didn't obsess over the native language spoke in their province when looking for people to play for and work for their organization they wouldn't have as many draft busts, bad coaches, and smallish forwards their fan base is growing to hate. If the NHL put a team in Helsinki and they only wanted a Finnish coach and Finnish captain the rest of the NHL would sit back and wonder what the hell they were trying to do. There's zero reason to believe in 2016 that being bilingual gives you any step up on the rest of your competition in the game of hockey. But at this point there's actually good reason to view it as something holding back an organization like Montreal who refuses to move past it. As a fan of a rival team I hope they continue to only employ french coaches and prioritize drafting Quebec based talent. Definately could have phrased that better. A big strong power forward who can do it all: what every team needs. A big strong power forward who can do it all AND is bilingual: what Montreal has been searching for. Sorry about the mixup. Regardless, I would love to see him in Le bleu blanc en rouge (personal preference) but I'll be cheering for him no matter what uniform he's wearing.
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Post by Kingrat on Jan 29, 2016 1:40:37 GMT -4
I hope to see him in blue and white if Toronto happens to drop out of the bottom 3 at the draft
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 29, 2016 9:25:05 GMT -4
I hope to see him in blue and white if Toronto happens to drop out of the bottom 3 at the draft If Toronto isn't drafting top 3 they should take Chychrun, they desperately need young D with upside.
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