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Trump
Jun 2, 2020 11:05:37 GMT -4
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Jun 2, 2020 11:05:37 GMT -4
The entire point is Trump voters in 2016 need to vote Biden in 2020. We know there will be anti-Trump voters. But will there be enough pro-Biden voters? That part is what I am questioning. While everyone is currently concerned with Covid and riots....the actual election is taking a backseat...huge advantage to Trump. And add in the fact that Biden is already a candidate with his own questionable past and it shouldn't shock anyone if a Florida goes Republican again. The "UFC and WWE are essential because they're huge Republican donors" state shouldn't be a shock to anyone if it votes for Trump. The fact 4 more years of tyranny is in the hands of the states you listed should concern everyone. But why the Democrats elect a Biden and allow him to become background noise during all this is quite the tactics to chose during a pandemic when trying to toss out the incumbent elected official. They have enough money and resources that all we should be seeing on our TV's and on our social media is Joe Biden's face and Trump's crimes. But the democrats are letting the MSM news cycle walk Trump to another re-election. And I hope i'm very wrong on that. But there's 4 years of history now telling us that the country and its media have let him blur the lines. And once it gets back to key words like "economy" "jobs" and fear of healthcare/police/gun reform I can see all those Trump states vote the exact same as they did before. All Biden is presenting himself as is the anti-Trump. Not what he'll do for places like Ohio or Florida if he wins. The longer he lets all this keep him from really campaigning the less change he'll have in November. And Trump's voter suppression tactics havent even ramped up yet which will add even more confusion leading up to voting day. Covid is hot helping Trump, he has dropped by 4-5 points in the pools in the last 2 months. Botching a crisis doesn't prove to anybody you should be president. Even Faux News was criticizing his tear gas to peaceful protestors for a photo op at a church. Be careful with the polls they are snapshot in time and we have no idea what the question was that was asked. It's often much deeper decision than do you like him, approve his performance. Pollsters will poll between elections in this country all the time. I mean Stephen MacNeil is polling in the stratosphere right now but there isn't an election and there is no way in a pandemic for anyone to attack him. If there were a campaign and debates it would be very different. It will get worse for Trump. The DNC will hold their convention in late July/early August and get a big bounce. Then the RNC will hold their convention and get a big bounce end of summer. Then I guess it's the campaign. It tends to seesaw every election cycle. I recall the time that Cape Breton flooded in October 2016. There was a debate around that time. Trump looked awful. Lost it. Was 14 points back in polls. And the video came out which had his comments about how women let you touch them....remember that? Polling every day showed him tanking. People can disapprove and still hold their noses and vote another way. Polls have never overcome the tendency for people to want to look good and not say what they really think. You cant trust a poll when you have a leader that people plan to vote but dont want people to know they are voting him. Like how would an upset Sanders supporter who days he will vote Biden and then doesnt bother to vote factor in. Polls ask how you will vote if the election were today. It only matters if you vote and think the same way in 5 months.
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Jun 2, 2020 11:08:51 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 2, 2020 11:08:51 GMT -4
I don't love Biden as a candidate but I disagree that he has not been visible. He literally just delivered a public address moments ago, he has delivered several others in the last few days. Has been out to a local protest for George Floyd, was out at a community church speaking to black leaders. Visited a Memorial on Memorial day with his wife. Perhaps he just does not seem visible because he is not an exciting politician and really is just the status quo. He's never going to be a guy that gives reality show soundbites that go viral. To me his VP selection is a bigger deal than himself as a candidate. Someone more progressive and passionate as a speaker to balance him out and bring out the younger voters who haven't been showing up. We're also still 5 months out from the election. He's not swaying any die hard Trump voters. The biggest issue they have to contend with is Voter Supression which gets zero coverage in the media because its a boring topic. Places with hundreds and hundreds of polling sites in low income areas are going down to 4 or 5. Folks with limited income may have no way to get to these sites. This is the big reason why Trump is being a crybaby on mail in voting. He understands more people voting = Trump losing. They can prop up the DOW as much as they want to try and keep it high until election time, but the economy is only working for the rich. I honestly laugh and am sad at the same time watching so many of Trumps poor base use "but ECONOMY!!" as an argument for Trump when he doesn't give a shit about them or their economic situation. Millions and millions of these people think they are always 1 break away from being in the 1% like their corrupt republican party representatives. The rest of Trumps base is either extremely rich or evangelicals who think the rapture is coming. Yes I agree he's finally starting to get out there. But these last few days should have been his last few months. He's finally realizing that these are the moments he needs to be seen and heard more about. But he still needs to take a bolder step to really cement his presence. He needs a game changer to bring attention on himself in a positive way and help start some momentum. As long as he's acting in response to everything he's playing into Trumps strategy.
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Jun 2, 2020 11:33:49 GMT -4
Post by lirette on Jun 2, 2020 11:33:49 GMT -4
I don't love Biden as a candidate but I disagree that he has not been visible. He literally just delivered a public address moments ago, he has delivered several others in the last few days. Has been out to a local protest for George Floyd, was out at a community church speaking to black leaders. Visited a Memorial on Memorial day with his wife. Perhaps he just does not seem visible because he is not an exciting politician and really is just the status quo. He's never going to be a guy that gives reality show soundbites that go viral. To me his VP selection is a bigger deal than himself as a candidate. Someone more progressive and passionate as a speaker to balance him out and bring out the younger voters who haven't been showing up. We're also still 5 months out from the election. He's not swaying any die hard Trump voters. The biggest issue they have to contend with is Voter Supression which gets zero coverage in the media because its a boring topic. Places with hundreds and hundreds of polling sites in low income areas are going down to 4 or 5. Folks with limited income may have no way to get to these sites. This is the big reason why Trump is being a crybaby on mail in voting. He understands more people voting = Trump losing. They can prop up the DOW as much as they want to try and keep it high until election time, but the economy is only working for the rich. I honestly laugh and am sad at the same time watching so many of Trumps poor base use "but ECONOMY!!" as an argument for Trump when he doesn't give a shit about them or their economic situation. Millions and millions of these people think they are always 1 break away from being in the 1% like their corrupt republican party representatives. The rest of Trumps base is either extremely rich or evangelicals who think the rapture is coming. Yes I agree he's finally starting to get out there. But these last few days should have been his last few months. He's finally realizing that these are the moments he needs to be seen and heard more about. But he still needs to take a bolder step to really cement his presence. He needs a game changer to bring attention on himself in a positive way and help start some momentum. As long as he's acting in response to everything he's playing into Trumps strategy. They need an all in front from everyone, celebrities like Taylor Swift who have way more rabid fans than Joe Biden have been speaking out more, and that needs to continue from every one of these larger than life figures. Fans of the Taylor Swifts and Beyonces will do just about anything to get attention from their heroes. Once september & october come along they need massive campaigns to get people voting. They need to get the suburban vote to show up and there's tons of younger people who simply arent voting. Every single vote will count to beat voter suppression and everything else thats being done in bad faith. This is what they are up against www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/us/Voting-republicans-trump.html
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Trump
Jun 2, 2020 11:37:34 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 2, 2020 11:37:34 GMT -4
all it takes is for 10% of those that watch Faux News to tire of the rhetoric and lies and stay home Nov 3rd to make a big impact. Not all GOP voters are Trump's "base", a lot of them held their noses and voted for him in 2016. Project Lincoln is a GOP led group running ads on that very network... lincolnproject.us/Fox News panders to Republicans. CNN tries to walk some center line that doesn't exist. Do you think Fox or CNN turns off more Trump voters? And the same question only for Democrats. I think way more Democrats get frustrated with the system and watching how CNN reports on it then Republicans get fed up with Fox News. The MSM cycle is not turning off the Trump voters in my opinion. It's feeding them more of what they enjoy. The new channels are not the ones turning off Trump voters, Trump is. it started not long after the election and got a lot worse in 2020. Unless he can reverse the current negative momentum, he will lose by a pretty big margin. He doesn't have a "but her e-mails" topic to go to and I don't think voters will fall for it in 2020. We saw the Trump stench on the 2018 election, GOP under performed in every race and even lost Alabama FFS.
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Jun 2, 2020 11:40:32 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 2, 2020 11:40:32 GMT -4
I don't love Biden as a candidate but I disagree that he has not been visible. He literally just delivered a public address moments ago, he has delivered several others in the last few days. Has been out to a local protest for George Floyd, was out at a community church speaking to black leaders. Visited a Memorial on Memorial day with his wife. Perhaps he just does not seem visible because he is not an exciting politician and really is just the status quo. He's never going to be a guy that gives reality show soundbites that go viral. To me his VP selection is a bigger deal than himself as a candidate. Someone more progressive and passionate as a speaker to balance him out and bring out the younger voters who haven't been showing up. We're also still 5 months out from the election. He's not swaying any die hard Trump voters. The biggest issue they have to contend with is Voter Supression which gets zero coverage in the media because its a boring topic. Places with hundreds and hundreds of polling sites in low income areas are going down to 4 or 5. Folks with limited income may have no way to get to these sites. This is the big reason why Trump is being a crybaby on mail in voting. He understands more people voting = Trump losing. They can prop up the DOW as much as they want to try and keep it high until election time, but the economy is only working for the rich. I honestly laugh and am sad at the same time watching so many of Trumps poor base use "but ECONOMY!!" as an argument for Trump when he doesn't give a shit about them or their economic situation. Millions and millions of these people think they are always 1 break away from being in the 1% like their corrupt republican party representatives. The rest of Trumps base is either extremely rich or evangelicals who think the rapture is coming. Yes I agree he's finally starting to get out there. But these last few days should have been his last few months. He's finally realizing that these are the moments he needs to be seen and heard more about. But he still needs to take a bolder step to really cement his presence. He needs a game changer to bring attention on himself in a positive way and help start some momentum. As long as he's acting in response to everything he's playing into Trumps strategy. In a world of social distancing, I think it would have hurt Biden more than helped him if he was out most of the last 3 months. He has been out the last 2-3 weeks with states opening up more. Trump going out to political events in Penn and Arizona in April and Nay did not help him, he has kept sliding for 2 months straight a ftera slight bump in March.
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Trump
Jun 2, 2020 11:47:36 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 2, 2020 11:47:36 GMT -4
Covid is hot helping Trump, he has dropped by 4-5 points in the pools in the last 2 months. Botching a crisis doesn't prove to anybody you should be president. Even Faux News was criticizing his tear gas to peaceful protestors for a photo op at a church. Be careful with the polls they are snapshot in time and we have no idea what the question was that was asked. It's often much deeper decision than do you like him, approve his performance. Pollsters will poll between elections in this country all the time. I mean Stephen MacNeil is polling in the stratosphere right now but there isn't an election and there is no way in a pandemic for anyone to attack him. If there were a campaign and debates it would be very different. It will get worse for Trump. The DNC will hold their convention in late July/early August and get a big bounce. Then the RNC will hold their convention and get a big bounce end of summer. Then I guess it's the campaign. It tends to seesaw every election cycle. I recall the time that Cape Breton flooded in October 2016. There was a debate around that time. Trump looked awful. Lost it. Was 14 points back in polls. And the video came out which had his comments about how women let you touch them....remember that? Polling every day showed him tanking. People can disapprove and still hold their noses and vote another way. Polls have never overcome the tendency for people to want to look good and not say what they really think. You cant trust a poll when you have a leader that people plan to vote but dont want people to know they are voting him. Like how would an upset Sanders supporter who days he will vote Biden and then doesnt bother to vote factor in. Polls ask how you will vote if the election were today. It only matters if you vote and think the same way in 5 months. I agree that polls are a snapshot, but it's also about trends, in late March, Trump actually got a bump in late March but since then he's been dropping and dropping in the polls. His messing up of the pandemic and crazy press conferences have only hurt him. I can't see the current riots helping him with minorities, college educated whites or women, all 3 groups he is hurting with. Covid also hurt his support with 60+ voters after wanting to "ride things out", grandma wasn't a fan of dying for the Dow!
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Trump
Jun 2, 2020 11:50:45 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 2, 2020 11:50:45 GMT -4
Yes I agree he's finally starting to get out there. But these last few days should have been his last few months. He's finally realizing that these are the moments he needs to be seen and heard more about. But he still needs to take a bolder step to really cement his presence. He needs a game changer to bring attention on himself in a positive way and help start some momentum. As long as he's acting in response to everything he's playing into Trumps strategy. They need an all in front from everyone, celebrities like Taylor Swift who have way more rabid fans than Joe Biden have been speaking out more, and that needs to continue from every one of these larger than life figures. Fans of the Taylor Swifts and Beyonces will do just about anything to get attention from their heroes. Once september & october come along they need massive campaigns to get people voting. They need to get the suburban vote to show up and there's tons of younger people who simply arent voting. Every single vote will count to beat voter suppression and everything else thats being done in bad faith. This is what they are up against www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/us/Voting-republicans-trump.html In a normal election, getting celebrities to get the vote out would be a big plus, I think this year what will get the vote out is getting rid of Trump, we saw that in Wisconsin during a pandemic, voters risked their lives to vote against the GOP who stopped them from voting by mail. I think the GOP voter supresson is disgraceful and hope that they make a big deal about it, it's stuff out of banana republic.
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Jun 2, 2020 12:04:43 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 2, 2020 12:04:43 GMT -4
Yes I agree he's finally starting to get out there. But these last few days should have been his last few months. He's finally realizing that these are the moments he needs to be seen and heard more about. But he still needs to take a bolder step to really cement his presence. He needs a game changer to bring attention on himself in a positive way and help start some momentum. As long as he's acting in response to everything he's playing into Trumps strategy. They need an all in front from everyone, celebrities like Taylor Swift who have way more rabid fans than Joe Biden have been speaking out more, and that needs to continue from every one of these larger than life figures. Fans of the Taylor Swifts and Beyonces will do just about anything to get attention from their heroes. Once september & october come along they need massive campaigns to get people voting. They need to get the suburban vote to show up and there's tons of younger people who simply arent voting. Every single vote will count to beat voter suppression and everything else thats being done in bad faith. This is what they are up against www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/us/Voting-republicans-trump.html Yes. All of this 100%. They need a complete all out blitz from anyone and everyone. The chance is there to actually bring their country back together if they do it right. And I don't necessarily think Biden does that but he at least starts to put them on a path back to normalcy.
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Jun 2, 2020 12:25:40 GMT -4
Post by lirette on Jun 2, 2020 12:25:40 GMT -4
They need an all in front from everyone, celebrities like Taylor Swift who have way more rabid fans than Joe Biden have been speaking out more, and that needs to continue from every one of these larger than life figures. Fans of the Taylor Swifts and Beyonces will do just about anything to get attention from their heroes. Once september & october come along they need massive campaigns to get people voting. They need to get the suburban vote to show up and there's tons of younger people who simply arent voting. Every single vote will count to beat voter suppression and everything else thats being done in bad faith. This is what they are up against www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/us/Voting-republicans-trump.html Yes. All of this 100%. They need a complete all out blitz from anyone and everyone. The chance is there to actually bring their country back together if they do it right. And I don't necessarily think Biden does that but he at least starts to put them on a path back to normalcy. I would have loved to see where America could go under a Bernie or a Warren but the support got split during the primary and their rabid bases while passionate just did not have enough turnout with the centrists rallying around Biden and here we are. It would seem despite the fact that americans fight tooth and nail for their gun rights, while at the same time have little to no access to health care, can't afford education, cant get paid sick leave and impacts of climate change they simply aren't ready for a progressive due to "socialism". I do see a path for them with a progressive VP and several other activists within the whitehouse on some of these issues. Biden has already brought in progressive policies into his campaign that were not part of his platform in the beginning and thats worth something. I could foresee a one term presidency for Biden with someone else more progressive taking over in 2024. This feels like a breaking point for America and that we are experiencing a part of history that will be studied for hundreds of years.
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Jun 2, 2020 13:02:40 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 2, 2020 13:02:40 GMT -4
Yes. All of this 100%. They need a complete all out blitz from anyone and everyone. The chance is there to actually bring their country back together if they do it right. And I don't necessarily think Biden does that but he at least starts to put them on a path back to normalcy. I would have loved to see where America could go under a Bernie or a Warren but the support got split during the primary and their rabid bases while passionate just did not have enough turnout with the centrists rallying around Biden and here we are. It would seem despite the fact that americans fight tooth and nail for their gun rights, while at the same time have little to no access to health care, can't afford education, cant get paid sick leave and impacts of climate change they simply aren't ready for a progressive due to "socialism". I do see a path for them with a progressive VP and several other activists within the whitehouse on some of these issues. Biden has already brought in progressive policies into his campaign that were not part of his platform in the beginning and thats worth something. I could foresee a one term presidency for Biden with someone else more progressive taking over in 2024. This feels like a breaking point for America and that we are experiencing a part of history that will be studied for hundreds of years. I think Sanders or Warren being the Democratic candidate would have gotten Trump re elected. The GOP was desperately hoping for a "socialist" candidate to run against. This is the spin in the US that rich folks with money play on poor folks without money that healthcare, better schooling and other social programs are bad and that they need tax cuts. that is the big inequality between Canada and the US, rich folks barely pay taxes and poor folks have poor healthcare and education and they are brainwashed that this system is actually better for them. The system the majority should aim for is what warren and sanders were selling...but due to misinformation and poor education, most Americans don't know any better. It's the African system, if you keep them hungry ad uneducated they won't overthrow you.
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Trump
Jun 2, 2020 14:34:34 GMT -4
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Jun 2, 2020 14:34:34 GMT -4
"They need an all in front from everyone, celebrities like Taylor Swift who have way more rabid fans than Joe Biden have been speaking out more, and that needs to continue from every one of these larger than life figures. Fans of the Taylor Swifts and Beyonces will do just about anything to get attention from their heroes." ------
I wish somebody would do a study on the effectiveness of this because they use this tactic all the time and it fails as much as it ever succeeds. I think for reason.
First the followers of those celebrities already hated Trump, they hated George W and Reagan too. Didnt help Gore or Hillary.
In fact the night b4 Hillary lost they had a big celebrity rock concert in Philly and it was all over social media and the news showing how the next day America would be this great place when Hillary wins. If you dont get a push from that you just wont. They lost Pennsylvania!
These events make it look like rich Hollywood people without a care in the world supporting this candidate and so it often drives away support they may have accidentally got. And every day it's pretty clear where Hollywood types stand. Just watch the shows they produce and the causes they support year round.
People vote more based on relationships with people similar to them. The people in the community and on the ground. Success to candidates at the grassroots well organized.
How Trump won in 2016 was only chasing 35% of the vote. You need to come across as being the only dude in their corner and lock them in. Hollywood is not really in your corner. If your election depends on me checking my Twitter to see if PK Subban can say something suave enough to remind me to vote you might not win.
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Trump
Jun 2, 2020 14:42:08 GMT -4
Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 2, 2020 14:42:08 GMT -4
"They need an all in front from everyone, celebrities like Taylor Swift who have way more rabid fans than Joe Biden have been speaking out more, and that needs to continue from every one of these larger than life figures. Fans of the Taylor Swifts and Beyonces will do just about anything to get attention from their heroes." ------ I wish somebody would do a study on the effectiveness of this because they use this tactic all the time and it fails as much as it ever succeeds. I think for reason. First the followers of those celebrities already hated Trump, they hated George W and Reagan too. Didnt help Gore or Hillary. In fact the night b4 Hillary lost they had a big celebrity rock concert in Philly and it was all over social media and the news showing how the next day America would be this great place when Hillary wins. If you dont get a push from that you just wont. They lost Pennsylvania! These events make it look like rich Hollywood people without a care in the world supporting this candidate and so it often drives away support they may have accidentally got. And every day it's pretty clear where Hollywood types stand. Just watch the shows they produce and the causes they support year round. People vote more based on relationships with people similar to them. The people in the community and on the ground. Success to candidates at the grassroots well organized. How Trump won in 2016 was only chasing 35% of the vote. You need to come across as being the only dude in their corner and lock them in. Hollywood is not really in your corner. If your election depends on me checking my Twitter to see if PK Subban can say something suave enough to remind me to vote you might not win. I think the point is getting the message out to young voters who are not as aware of all the issues and the history but might be a bit more woke if the message is coming from a certain celebrity. So a Taylor Swift or Beyonce putting their support behind someone could mean a few thousand 19yr old females vote who otherwise might not vote at all. Or worse....might vote the way their family traditionally has voted. You're 100% right that a PK Subban lighting up twitter probably isn't going to get through as much. But I think certain entertainers hold a lot of influence over their younger and easier to influence followers and there's something to be had there in terms of impacting a certain demographic and getting them out to not only vote but break reigns from traditional family trends.
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Trump
Jun 2, 2020 14:46:28 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 2, 2020 14:46:28 GMT -4
John Harwood (@johnjharwood) tweeted at 9:44 a.m. on Tue., Jun. 02, 2020: Morning Consult national poll, May 31-June1, in Trump’s handling of protest:
all adults 20% excellent/good 54% only fair/poor
age 18-34 16%-57%
age 65+ 28%-50%
independents 11%-53%
whites 21%-50%
blacks 11%-77%
Hispanics 13%-54%
evangelical Christians 27%-43%
suburban women 15%-58%
non-college whites 22%-45%
college whites 19%-61%
Trump 2016 voters 43%-23%
Pretty ugly results, even his own voters are only at 43% and Evangelicals at 27%.
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Trump
Jun 2, 2020 14:52:01 GMT -4
Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 2, 2020 14:52:01 GMT -4
"They need an all in front from everyone, celebrities like Taylor Swift who have way more rabid fans than Joe Biden have been speaking out more, and that needs to continue from every one of these larger than life figures. Fans of the Taylor Swifts and Beyonces will do just about anything to get attention from their heroes." ------ I wish somebody would do a study on the effectiveness of this because they use this tactic all the time and it fails as much as it ever succeeds. I think for reason. First the followers of those celebrities already hated Trump, they hated George W and Reagan too. Didnt help Gore or Hillary. In fact the night b4 Hillary lost they had a big celebrity rock concert in Philly and it was all over social media and the news showing how the next day America would be this great place when Hillary wins. If you dont get a push from that you just wont. They lost Pennsylvania! These events make it look like rich Hollywood people without a care in the world supporting this candidate and so it often drives away support they may have accidentally got. And every day it's pretty clear where Hollywood types stand. Just watch the shows they produce and the causes they support year round. People vote more based on relationships with people similar to them. The people in the community and on the ground. Success to candidates at the grassroots well organized. How Trump won in 2016 was only chasing 35% of the vote. You need to come across as being the only dude in their corner and lock them in. Hollywood is not really in your corner. If your election depends on me checking my Twitter to see if PK Subban can say something suave enough to remind me to vote you might not win. I think the point is getting the message out to young voters who are not as aware of all the issues and the history but might be a bit more woke if the message is coming from a certain celebrity. So a Taylor Swift or Beyonce putting their support behind someone could mean a few thousand 19yr old females vote who otherwise might not vote at all. Or worse....might vote the way their family traditionally has voted. You're 100% right that a PK Subban lighting up twitter probably isn't going to get through as much. But I think certain entertainers hold a lot of influence over their younger and easier to influence followers and there's something to be had there in terms of impacting a certain demographic and getting them out to not only vote but break reigns from traditional family trends. I agree with what you guys are saying, but no two elections are the same. Some elections you absolutely need something to entice the vote, others voters flock because of an issue or person they are passionate about. In 2018 Democrats won a big chuck because Trump is toxic and people wanted to vote against his message. Based on everything happening in 2020, this presidential election may be the same.
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Post by lirette on Jun 2, 2020 15:09:00 GMT -4
"They need an all in front from everyone, celebrities like Taylor Swift who have way more rabid fans than Joe Biden have been speaking out more, and that needs to continue from every one of these larger than life figures. Fans of the Taylor Swifts and Beyonces will do just about anything to get attention from their heroes." ------ I wish somebody would do a study on the effectiveness of this because they use this tactic all the time and it fails as much as it ever succeeds. I think for reason. First the followers of those celebrities already hated Trump, they hated George W and Reagan too. Didnt help Gore or Hillary. In fact the night b4 Hillary lost they had a big celebrity rock concert in Philly and it was all over social media and the news showing how the next day America would be this great place when Hillary wins. If you dont get a push from that you just wont. They lost Pennsylvania! These events make it look like rich Hollywood people without a care in the world supporting this candidate and so it often drives away support they may have accidentally got. And every day it's pretty clear where Hollywood types stand. Just watch the shows they produce and the causes they support year round. People vote more based on relationships with people similar to them. The people in the community and on the ground. Success to candidates at the grassroots well organized. How Trump won in 2016 was only chasing 35% of the vote. You need to come across as being the only dude in their corner and lock them in. Hollywood is not really in your corner. If your election depends on me checking my Twitter to see if PK Subban can say something suave enough to remind me to vote you might not win. My point being, they need to get more creative to get them out. Yes many of these followers already hate trump, but didnt vote so they can hate him all they want and question why hes in power but if they don't show up at the polls they are part of the problem. They need to double, triple their efforts whatever they have to do to get them out. The other point that needs to be made is that this isn't all Trumps fault. The republican party who sits back silently, going anonymously to news sources of how disgusted they are by his behaviour but rarely publicly speaking out for fear of dear leader are just as much as part of the problem and in all honestly a bigger part of the problem. The senators had their chance to remove him from office in January. Susan Collins said she thought by impeaching him he's "learned his lesson" but continues to make statements on twitter about how "concerned", or "disappointed" she is by the moves he makes but takes no actual action. The ones who sit silently never to criticize him are even worse. Flipping the Senate is just as important in this election.
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