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Post by bois on Nov 10, 2016 10:00:47 GMT -4
i think you have unreasonable expectations ifyou expect 40 plus points from several rookies.... no matter what age they are
if you get 1 rookie who gets that you've done well
and i think McKenna will likely get there
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 10, 2016 10:10:11 GMT -4
i think you have unreasonable expectations ifyou expect 40 plus points from several rookies.... no matter what age they are if you get 1 rookie who gets that you've done well and i think McKenna will likely get there If a guy is going to be a top 6 forward at 18-19, he should be putting up 40 points or more at 17. I'm thinking McKenna and Campannelli, I think at one point, Shannon even sold AC as a 1st liner on this year's team. He's been a definite disappointment. McKenna did not do much early, but is looking better the last 3-4 weeks. Dicaire was expected to contribute offensively, Meisenheimer(18 and from Jr.A) also. Lecoultre defensively is as expected, quite raw, but I expected more offensively. |
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Post by bois on Nov 10, 2016 10:23:54 GMT -4
Not going to look for other teams but in our team history some 17 year old seasons.... usually 2nd year by the way not rookie
Balmas 20-14-34 ... top 6 at 18
Kielly 10-21-31 .... top 6 at 19
Kennedy 12-15-27 ... top 6 occasionally at 18 and 19
Pepin 18-12-30
Provencher 18-12-30
Marcotte 12-10-22
Laplante 6-15-21
Duffy 11-16-27
Currie 9-6-15
the only exceptions were Sprong and Goulet who were first round picks who stepped in as top 6 forwards immediately at 16 and built on that at 17
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 10, 2016 10:26:09 GMT -4
Not going to look for other teams but in our team history some 17 year old seasons.... usually 2nd year by the way not rookie Balmas 20-14-34 ... top 6 at 18 Kielly 10-21-31 .... top 6 at 19 Kennedy 12-15-27 ... top 6 occasionally at 18 and 19 Pepin 18-12-30 Provencher 18-12-30 Marcotte 12-10-22 Laplante 6-15-21 Duffy 11-16-27 Currie 9-6-15 the only exceptions were Sprong and Goulet who were first round picks who stepped in as top 6 forwards immediately at 16 and built on that at 17 Maybe I'm expecting too much? Goulet was not in the Q at 16, played MAAA. |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Nov 10, 2016 10:46:33 GMT -4
Not going to look for other teams but in our team history some 17 year old seasons.... usually 2nd year by the way not rookie Balmas 20-14-34 ... top 6 at 18 Kielly 10-21-31 .... top 6 at 19 Kennedy 12-15-27 ... top 6 occasionally at 18 and 19 Pepin 18-12-30 Provencher 18-12-30 Marcotte 12-10-22 Laplante 6-15-21 Duffy 11-16-27 Currie 9-6-15 the only exceptions were Sprong and Goulet who were first round picks who stepped in as top 6 forwards immediately at 16 and built on that at 17 Maybe I'm expecting too much? Goulet was not in the Q at 16, played MAAA. I think you are. McKenna is 4th in points among 16 and 17-year-old North American rookies. That's not bad at all. Capannelli is 9th and I think he's been looking more dangerous offensively over the last couple weeks. He's been getting more chances and was deservedly moved up to the top line so that's encouraging. The one knock I would have on him so far is that I find he's standing around too much at times. As for Le Coultre...the team is 14th in goals per game...what do you expect? 17 year old defenceman to lead the attack? |
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Post by bmiller on Nov 10, 2016 11:23:14 GMT -4
Mckenna should be more productive with the Klimas and always on 5 vs 4.
Macintytre (20), Gagnon (19), Holwell (19) and Malatesta (20). With Le Coultre in the lineup, only 1 spot for Lavoie, Massie and Senken.
with a 3 in 3 this week, we buy baby !!!!!!
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 10, 2016 11:30:56 GMT -4
Maybe I'm expecting too much? Goulet was not in the Q at 16, played MAAA. I think you are. McKenna is 4th in points among 16 and 17-year-old North American rookies. That's not bad at all. Capannelli is 9th and I think he's been looking more dangerous offensively over the last couple weeks. He's been getting more chances and was deservedly moved up to the top line so that's encouraging. The one knock I would have on him so far is that I find he's standing around too much at times. As for Le Coultre...the team is 14th in goals per game...what do you expect? 17 year old defenceman to lead the attack? The fact that they traded the #8 overall pick for Campannelli plus hyped him as a 1st liner, I have not been impressed so far. Has a pretty good skill level, but struggles when he has to work for the puck, not a great sign. Not a trade that is looking good at all. LeCoultre, he skates well and handles the puck pretty good, but his vision has been a disappointment, I though he would have more of that PP QB toolset, hopefully that comes in the next few months. Mild disappointment. Dicaire was a top scorer in MAAA and has lots of speed, but he isn't shifty, makes it easy for Q d-men, from what I have seen not a lot of offensive tools, must have scored points in MAAA on speed. to shut him down. I think he profiles more of a 3rd line PK guy that will chip in 10 goals. I was hoping Meisenheimer would be a good 2 way guy that could step in right away, at this point he could be cut for a younger player much like Mooney was, replacement level player. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2016 19:35:59 GMT -4
Didn't end up with Moncton, but he has signed on with Baie Comeau as an FA. |
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Nov 13, 2016 12:44:57 GMT -4
Conner Garland isn't being used very well on the Tucson Roadrunners. Paired with their 4th line guys that are the team's poorest skaters, his +/- isn't very good and he doesn't see's the ice much. Seems to be strapped with Western minded coaching that have labeled him selfish from what I've read. Having said that the team is doing very well so there is no point in changing anything. Any chance that could factor into the rebuild at Christmas.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2016 12:55:36 GMT -4
Conner Garland isn't being used very well on the Tucson Roadrunners. Paired with their 4th line guys that are the team's poorest skaters, his +/- isn't very good and he doesn't see's the ice much. Seems to be strapped with Western minded coaching that have labeled him selfish from what I've read. Having said that the team is doing very well so there is no point in changing anything. Any chance that could factor into the rebuild at Christmas. It's possible his rights are traded, but can't see Garland in a Wildcats uniform this season. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 13, 2016 17:44:07 GMT -4
Conner Garland isn't being used very well on the Tucson Roadrunners. Paired with their 4th line guys that are the team's poorest skaters, his +/- isn't very good and he doesn't see's the ice much. Seems to be strapped with Western minded coaching that have labeled him selfish from what I've read. Having said that the team is doing very well so there is no point in changing anything. Any chance that could factor into the rebuild at Christmas. If he isn't playing AHL, they'd be better off having him play 2-3 months ECHL. Having him back would be great for the rebuild...but I'm not sure they are sharp enough to sell if he comes back. They'd probably try a run like in 2013 and trade away their 1st rounder for a big name. |
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Post by buckybuckbuck on Nov 13, 2016 18:51:18 GMT -4
Conner Garland isn't being used very well on the Tucson Roadrunners. Paired with their 4th line guys that are the team's poorest skaters, his +/- isn't very good and he doesn't see's the ice much. Seems to be strapped with Western minded coaching that have labeled him selfish from what I've read. Having said that the team is doing very well so there is no point in changing anything. Any chance that could factor into the rebuild at Christmas. If he isn't playing AHL, they'd be better off having him play 2-3 months ECHL. Having him back would be great for the rebuild...but I'm not sure they are sharp enough to sell if he comes back. They'd probably try a run like in 2013 and trade away their 1st rounder for a big name. It has been done before, especially if they think he would be traded to a contender. I hope that Shannon hasn't got some prior knowledge and is planning another half assed run. If he does come back, he is exactly what RN need to repeat. They have a deep asset bank and trades. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2016 5:25:00 GMT -4
If he isn't playing AHL, they'd be better off having him play 2-3 months ECHL. Having him back would be great for the rebuild...but I'm not sure they are sharp enough to sell if he comes back. They'd probably try a run like in 2013 and trade away their 1st rounder for a big name. It has been done before, especially if they think he would be traded to a contender. I hope that Shannon hasn't got some prior knowledge and is planning another half assed run. If he does come back, he is exactly what RN need to repeat. They have a deep asset bank and trades. If any Wildcats are traded to Rouyn, it'll be Wiederer. He would fill their 2nd Euro and 3rd 20YO spot. |
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Post by SteveUL on Nov 14, 2016 13:46:46 GMT -4
It has been done before, especially if they think he would be traded to a contender. I hope that Shannon hasn't got some prior knowledge and is planning another half assed run. If he does come back, he is exactly what RN need to repeat. They have a deep asset bank and trades. If any Wildcats are traded to Rouyn, it'll be Wiederer. He would fill their 2nd Euro and 3rd 20YO spot. And he was excellent against them last year in the playoffs ... he had a great playoff run. |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Nov 14, 2016 15:45:46 GMT -4
Wiederer to Rouyn is really the only way I see him being traded. It's not that unrealistic of a possibility either. What other European player might the Huskies look to go after? If Chicoutimi decides to sell then Zhukenov could be an option, but that's really about it. The teams in the bottom half of the standings generally all have Euro's that would be back next season.
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