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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 17, 2017 19:15:39 GMT -4
How does a 17 year old not fit the core of a team? Assuming he exits the league after his 4TH year in the league which he probably will. What building blocks do you guys have to put around him 3 years from now. 1 or 2? I know you can trade for some my point was just that you don't have anything to put around him at this point You're kidding right? What building blocks does ANYONE have for 3 years for now outside of the teams who just picked high 2 months ago where Moncton picked 3rd overall? It's a league with most players playing only 3 or 4 years. It's impossible to know who has building blocks in 3 years time for departing players who have yet to hit the ice for their 17yr old season. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Aug 17, 2017 19:19:32 GMT -4
How does a 17 year old not fit the core of a team? Assuming he exits the league after his 4TH year in the league which he probably will. What building blocks do you guys have to put around him 3 years from now. 1 or 2? I know you can trade for some my point was just that you don't have anything to put around him at this point Bellamy, Pelletier, Alec MacDonald, Quebec's 2018 1st rounder, Bathurst's 2019 1st rounder. Just to make a few. Cyr and McKenna will be 20. |
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Post by pivotman on Aug 17, 2017 19:20:47 GMT -4
Not a wildcats fan but if I was id be really pissed. He was drafted in 2016. A draft where you guys got nothing from. He does not fit your core at all although no offense but you guys don't really have a core at this point in time. all this is is a GM under some heat that wants to do something big to get himself out of it even though any fan with a brain in there head can understand this trade made zero sense. They just paid the price of a top rental 4 months from now for a 3 or 4 year player who already has proven scoring ability. What core in the league does that not fit into? Only any team not wanting to win over those 3 or 4 years... Ok jack. lets assume he plays 4 years in the league and plays pro his 20 YO year. which is what will probably happen. so he is 19 in the 2019 2020 season. If you se that as Moncton's go for it year then I stand corrected. If you don't then I'm correct. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Aug 17, 2017 19:29:25 GMT -4
They just paid the price of a top rental 4 months from now for a 3 or 4 year player who already has proven scoring ability. What core in the league does that not fit into? Only any team not wanting to win over those 3 or 4 years... Ok jack. lets assume he plays 4 years in the league and plays pro his 20 YO year. which is what will probably happen. so he is 19 in the 2019 2020 season. If you se that as Moncton's go for it year then I stand corrected. If you don't then I'm correct. What team in the league does not believe they can build a winner within 3 years coming into year 1 with a 3rd overall pick? If you just picked 3rd overall would you expect to try and win during that players peak years starting at 18 before he is likely off to play pro at 20? Do you not think they currently have enough assets in 2021 and 2022 to mortgage a winner in 2020 even if they're lacking a piece or 2 along the way like almost every championship team does? |
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Post by pivotman on Aug 17, 2017 20:06:01 GMT -4
Ok jack. lets assume he plays 4 years in the league and plays pro his 20 YO year. which is what will probably happen. so he is 19 in the 2019 2020 season. If you se that as Moncton's go for it year then I stand corrected. If you don't then I'm correct. What team in the league does not believe they can build a winner within 3 years coming into year 1 with a 3rd overall pick? If you just picked 3rd overall would you expect to try and win during that players peak years starting at 18 before he is likely off to play pro at 20? Do you not think they currently have enough assets in 2021 and 2022 to mortgage a winner in 2020 even if they're lacking a piece or 2 along the way like almost every championship team does? Yes I'm sure they will have a vary good team when Anderson is 19 and the 3rd ovi pick is 18. my point is there is not much 19 YO talent there so unless you want to sell off picks years into the future then it will be hard to win a championship that year. |
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Post by Shannon's burner account on Aug 17, 2017 21:48:12 GMT -4
I thought the price would have been a bit cheaper since he refused to report to Sherbrooke.
Halifax was apparently interested but looks like Moncton was willing to give up more to get him
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Post by juliansteed on Aug 18, 2017 0:29:28 GMT -4
I thought the price would have been a bit cheaper since he refused to report to Sherbrooke. Halifax was apparently interested but looks like Moncton was willing to give up more to get him Demanding a trade only tends to drive the price down if there's only one team the player is willing to go to and/or only one team able to make room for him (the latter not really being applicable in this case). |
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Post by Penguins23® on Aug 18, 2017 6:05:48 GMT -4
I hate to dwell on the past but as others have mentioned, we could have got Anderson at the draft so this just makes the price we payed for Campanelli look even more ridiculous.
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Post by Shannon's burner account on Aug 18, 2017 6:14:22 GMT -4
I hate to dwell on the past but as others have mentioned, we could have got Anderson at the draft so this just makes the price we payed for Campanelli look even more ridiculous. Overpay and Undersell: The Roger Shannon Story |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Aug 18, 2017 6:15:32 GMT -4
I hate to dwell on the past but as others have mentioned, we could have got Anderson at the draft so this just makes the price we payed for Campanelli look even more ridiculous. That was my thought...would have been soooo much easier! Trades like this don't happen in a vacuum... -Cats missed out on him last year trading out of the #8 overall pick. -Cats draft a player that didn't show up(Jacques) -Cats drafted another player who isn't coming(Khovanov) -Cats traded for a 3rd player that hasn't reported...yet This forced them to pay nearly 3 times what MacDonald would have cost 14 months ago! |
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Post by Arnold Slick on Aug 18, 2017 8:42:11 GMT -4
I hate to dwell on the past but as others have mentioned, we could have got Anderson at the draft so this just makes the price we payed for Campanelli look even more ridiculous. Yup absolutely. I think it's a fair deal just looking at it in isolation, but in the overall picture it's far from any vindication that Shannon is some sort of great GM. It's just him trying to cover up a bunch of screw ups. That said I fully admit to being quite excited about MacDonald being on the Cats roster for the next few seasons. |
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Post by jimmy on Aug 18, 2017 13:02:05 GMT -4
Reading on the Quebec board that Shannon has been quoted as saying Jacques is expected to report to Sherbrooke ...
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Aug 18, 2017 13:08:46 GMT -4
Reading on the Quebec board that Shannon has been quoted as saying Jacques is expected to report to Sherbrooke ... According to this article, he still plans on playing for Chicago of the USHL this season. |
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Aug 18, 2017 13:11:34 GMT -4
Reading on the Quebec board that Shannon has been quoted as saying Jacques is expected to report to Sherbrooke ... didn't he say the same about o'leary when he was a part of the donaghey trade? look how that turned out  |
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Post by catzfans on Aug 18, 2017 13:20:25 GMT -4
I hate to dwell on the past but as others have mentioned, we could have got Anderson at the draft so this just makes the price we payed for Campanelli look even more ridiculous. You can make arguments about overpaying for any player we could have drafted and then trading for them later. |
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