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Post by npsh on Dec 15, 2017 14:38:21 GMT -4
I thought it was generally well known that Halifax was quite interesting in hosting next QMJHL slot(2018-19) as they never hosted before(I believe). So why did Irving decide to bid on the last day , something suggests this was an eleventh hour decision. I doubt the decision was made the last few days. they probably planned it 6-8 months ago, maybe a year ago. Could be, if such is the case gotta say Irving kept his playing cards very close to his chest , usually stuff like that does indeed get out in some form. Also could be his way of having a nice little package for the introductory year at new facility to get bigger interest aka STH. I know of a good many who are not renewing next year, perhaps a trend has been recognized by Irving. But whatever...... carry on. |
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Post by lirette on Dec 15, 2017 14:52:02 GMT -4
I doubt the decision was made the last few days. they probably planned it 6-8 months ago, maybe a year ago. Could be, if such is the case gotta say Irving kept his playing cards very close to his chest , usually stuff like that does indeed get out in some form. Also could be his way of having a nice little package for the introductory year at new facility to get bigger interest aka STH. I know of a good many who are not renewing next year, perhaps a trend has been recognized by Irving. But whatever...... carry on. There was news articles out back in March of this year that it was expected that SJ(who decided to wait) / MON / HAL would be bidding on the hosting duties..including an interview Jenner did with CTV in front of the new building. So this shouldnt be a shocker to anyone. |
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Dec 15, 2017 15:36:59 GMT -4
Halifax last hosted in 2000.
Moncton in 2006.
New building or not, and renovations to Scotiabank Center or not it's hard to imagine Moncton will get to host again b4 Halifax unless there is some under the table deal that Irving made with league when he lost some of his $100K deposit the time he bid in 2014 and dropped out.
And if you consider competitiveness there is no other Q team assured to be as ready as Halifax.
The reason Halifax floated their intentions to bid long ago was to keep other bidders from coming forward. It was clear Moncton would do this all along. It's good for the league as the bid pkgs will always look better with competition than without.
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 15, 2017 15:38:18 GMT -4
Announcement April 5th on if #Halifax2019 or #Moncton2019 My money is with Halifax ... they tick all the boxes in a bigger way. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 15, 2017 15:44:45 GMT -4
Announcement April 5th on if #Halifax2019 or #Moncton2019 My money is with Halifax ... they tick all the boxes in a bigger way. Moncton has a newer building and the Wc love to give the flashy presentations. I would say it's 50-50. |
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Post by LLL on Dec 15, 2017 15:44:52 GMT -4
I tried to find a date for when the formal bid is due for the 2018 Memorial Cup tournament but I can't. It looks like it was towards the end of January 2017 for the 2017 cup bid.
The Cats will still need a lease agreement before the formal bid is due. What we heard today was that the Cats intend to make a formal bid for the tournament and it sounds like it was a deadline announcement.
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Post by jordo999 on Dec 15, 2017 15:45:56 GMT -4
it's going to be close but I think Halifax comes out on top, either way whoever wins it I'll likely be making the trip to see the games!
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Post by catnut on Dec 15, 2017 15:47:06 GMT -4
I tried to find a date for when the formal bid is due for the 2018 Memorial Cup tournament but I can't. It looks like it was towards the end of January 2017 for the 2017 cup bid. The Cats will still need a lease agreement before the formal bid is due. What we heard today was that the Cats intend to make a formal bid for the tournament and it sounds like it was a deadline announcement. Didn't they sign an agreement before construction even began? |
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Post by LLL on Dec 15, 2017 15:52:36 GMT -4
I tried to find a date for when the formal bid is due for the 2018 Memorial Cup tournament but I can't. It looks like it was towards the end of January 2017 for the 2017 cup bid. The Cats will still need a lease agreement before the formal bid is due. What we heard today was that the Cats intend to make a formal bid for the tournament and it sounds like it was a deadline announcement. Didn't they sign an agreement before construction even began? Negative unless they signed an agreement very recently without announcing it. |
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 15, 2017 15:58:19 GMT -4
My money is with Halifax ... they tick all the boxes in a bigger way. Moncton has a newer building and the Wc love to give the flashy presentations. I would say it's 50-50. No way its 50-50 ... I'd say 80-20 in favour of Halifax. Halifax has waited longer than we have ... they had the most successful Memorial Cup in recent times ... far more successful than Moncton's hosting. They have hosted many world class events and been very successful every time ... their team should be stronger on paper by what we'll know when the event is awarded (pre-draft). While we have a brand new building they can pack in more fans than we can still. They have a larger STH base ... and we don't know how large our's will be before we actually move downtown. And comparing Cities ... Halifax is a great place to be during an event like this ... while Moncton is a hole, but is improving ... but won't have improved significantly by tournament time. The only reason why Moncton gets a 20% chance is because we have a brand new rink ... and a billionaire owner who could take a big loss if he wanted it real bad. I think we are only bidding at this time so we can say we did and got rejected ... so we'd have a better chance next time. That's typically how it works. |
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 15, 2017 15:59:21 GMT -4
I tried to find a date for when the formal bid is due for the 2018 Memorial Cup tournament but I can't. It looks like it was towards the end of January 2017 for the 2017 cup bid. The Cats will still need a lease agreement before the formal bid is due. What we heard today was that the Cats intend to make a formal bid for the tournament and it sounds like it was a deadline announcement. Didn't they sign an agreement before construction even began? Some sort of letter of understanding I think ... nothing formal. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 15, 2017 16:20:49 GMT -4
Moncton has a newer building and the Wc love to give the flashy presentations. I would say it's 50-50. No way its 50-50 ... I'd say 80-20 in favour of Halifax. Halifax has waited longer than we have ... they had the most successful Memorial Cup in recent times ... far more successful than Moncton's hosting. They have hosted many world class events and been very successful every time ... their team should be stronger on paper by what we'll know when the event is awarded (pre-draft). While we have a brand new building they can pack in more fans than we can still. They have a larger STH base ... and we don't know how large our's will be before we actually move downtown. And comparing Cities ... Halifax is a great place to be during an event like this ... while Moncton is a hole, but is improving ... but won't have improved significantly by tournament time. The only reason why Moncton gets a 20% chance is because we have a brand new rink ... and a billionaire owner who could take a big loss if he wanted it real bad. I think we are only bidding at this time so we can say we did and got rejected ... so we'd have a better chance next time. That's typically how it works. The waiting part and having had it before is irrelevant. Having a stronger team on paper matters, but IMO it's a small factor. Quebec hosted in 2003(after Halifax) and again in 2015, both in an old building with good but not great teams ahead of teams looking to host for the 1st time or who had not hosted in a long time. |
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 15, 2017 18:35:56 GMT -4
No way its 50-50 ... I'd say 80-20 in favour of Halifax. Halifax has waited longer than we have ... they had the most successful Memorial Cup in recent times ... far more successful than Moncton's hosting. They have hosted many world class events and been very successful every time ... their team should be stronger on paper by what we'll know when the event is awarded (pre-draft). While we have a brand new building they can pack in more fans than we can still. They have a larger STH base ... and we don't know how large our's will be before we actually move downtown. And comparing Cities ... Halifax is a great place to be during an event like this ... while Moncton is a hole, but is improving ... but won't have improved significantly by tournament time. The only reason why Moncton gets a 20% chance is because we have a brand new rink ... and a billionaire owner who could take a big loss if he wanted it real bad. I think we are only bidding at this time so we can say we did and got rejected ... so we'd have a better chance next time. That's typically how it works. The waiting part and having had it before is irrelevant. Having a stronger team on paper matters, but IMO it's a small factor. Quebec hosted in 2003(after Halifax) and again in 2015, both in an old building with good but not great teams ahead of teams looking to host for the 1st time or who had not hosted in a long time. Who was Quebec up against ... tough to beat a 13,000 seat rink that is filled often ... and a beautiful City to offer much more when the games aren't on. Plus it is the Q's jewel. |
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Dec 15, 2017 19:40:44 GMT -4
The waiting part and having had it before is irrelevant. Having a stronger team on paper matters, but IMO it's a small factor. Quebec hosted in 2003(after Halifax) and again in 2015, both in an old building with good but not great teams ahead of teams looking to host for the 1st time or who had not hosted in a long time. Who was Quebec up against ... tough to beat a 13,000 seat rink that is filled often ... and a beautiful City to offer much more when the games aren't on. Plus it is the Q's jewel. Quebec was only challenged by Chicoutimi that year |
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Post by npsh on Dec 16, 2017 0:25:54 GMT -4
Moncton has a newer building and the Wc love to give the flashy presentations. I would say it's 50-50. No way its 50-50 ... I'd say 80-20 in favour of Halifax. Halifax has waited longer than we have ... they had the most successful Memorial Cup in recent times ... far more successful than Moncton's hosting. They have hosted many world class events and been very successful every time ... their team should be stronger on paper by what we'll know when the event is awarded (pre-draft). While we have a brand new building they can pack in more fans than we can still. They have a larger STH base ... and we don't know how large our's will be before we actually move downtown. And comparing Cities ... Halifax is a great place to be during an event like this ... while Moncton is a hole, but is improving ... but won't have improved significantly by tournament time. The only reason why Moncton gets a 20% chance is because we have a brand new rink ... and a billionaire owner who could take a big loss if he wanted it real bad. I think we are only bidding at this time so we can say we did and got rejected ... so we'd have a better chance next time. That's typically how it works. I suspect you are right on Halifax as has to more to offer in all aspects, has a more vibrant downtown, fine eating establishments, plenty of good hotels, best selection of pubs, toss in the ambiance of the waterfront and there you go. What does Moncton have outside of one downtown street and a view of a muddy river. |
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